OFFICIAL G & O Presidential Debate #3 with Obama and Romney

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

You make the rather erroneous assumption that each debate was a total reset, with no carryover from the previous ones.

When that one debate is about the NUMBER ONE ISSUE in this election in which Romney blew Obama away, liberals clucking about winning two debates that, in the end, have done ZILCH to move Obama's numbers is quite comical.


Rasmussen: Romney up 50-46; Gallup: 51-45.

But Obama won two debates.....GOOD LUCK with that.  

It takes a few days to see the effects of a debate....the big issue with Romney is that he has to hold on to the states slightly in his favor AND get Ohio in his bracket.....

If he doesn't get it, he loses....if he loses one of his leaning states, he loses....and with a race this close, the final debate really mattered and he just got beat up pretty badly.  He'll need to run a barrage of attack ads

[Grape Ape]

It takes a few days to see the effects of a debate....the big issue with Romney is that he has to hold on to the states slightly in his favor AND get Ohio in his bracket.....

If he doesn't get it, he loses....if he loses one of his leaning states, he loses....and with a race this close, the final debate really mattered and he just got beat up pretty badly.  He'll need to run a barrage of attack ads

You also said Romney made a big mistake after the first debate - how did that turn out.    People are sick of attack ads and are seeing through the gimmicks of one liners in place of substance.   I'm not saying the election is lost, but the recent poll trends should paint a clear picture that what you're spouting is drivel.

[MCWAY]

It takes a few days to see the effects of a debate....the big issue with Romney is that he has to hold on to the states slightly in his favor AND get Ohio in his bracket.....

If he doesn't get it, he loses....if he loses one of his leaning states, he loses....and with a race this close, the final debate really mattered and he just got beat up pretty badly.  He'll need to run a barrage of attack ads

The debate was on foreign policy, hardly the top priority of the American people. Even those in the polls and focus groups, who said Obama won the debate, declared the economy is TOP DOG in this election and Romney beats Obama COLD on that one.

At the rate this is going, Romney can win without Ohio. Wisconsin and New Hampshire have 14 EC votes combined. While less than Ohio's 18, it's enough to put Romney over the top if he gets to 256 with the other states.

He's at 206 right now in RCP. Florida and Virginia are going his way. That would put him at 248. Colorado is trending Romney. IF he gets that, it puts Romney at 257. This means that Ohio or the WI-NH combo gets him to 270 and the win.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

The debate was on foreign policy, hardly the top priority of the American people. Even those in the polls and focus groups, who said Obama won the debate, declared the economy is TOP DOG in this election and Romney beats Obama COLD on that one.

At the rate this is going, Romney can win without Ohio. Wisconsin and New Hampshire have 14 EC votes combined. While less than Ohio's 18, it's enough to put Romney over the top if he gets to 256 with the other states.

He's at 206 right now in RCP. Florida and Virginia are going his way. That would put him at 248. Colorado is trending Romney. IF he gets that, it puts Romney at 257. This means that Ohio or the WI-NH combo gets him to 270 and the win.

Romney has no staff in Wis so he's not winning that one and its unlikely that he'll win New Hampshire or Virginia.....his only chance is Ohio and that's not looking really good right now....the big thing is that his lead in other battlegrounds are razor thin so he'll have to divert resources to maintain them.

As far as the debate is concerned, people don't really care about the topic....its just a debate and with the race running so close you don't want to screw up.  Romney didn't do himself any favors last night.  He has very few paths to victory and way too many paths to losing.


The real loser is everyone...regardless of who gets the office, we are seriously fucked....Romney is the worse contender ever.....anyone competent could have wrapped this shit up already

[tommywishbone]

Romney has no staff in Wis so he's not winning that one and its unlikely that he'll win New Hampshire or Virginia.....his only chance is Ohio and that's not looking really good right now....the big thing is that his lead in other battlegrounds are razor thin so he'll have to divert resources to maintain them.

As far as the debate is concerned, people don't really care about the topic....its just a debate and with the race running so close you don't want to screw up.  Romney didn't do himself any favors last night.  He has very few paths to victory and way too many paths to losing.


The real loser is everyone...regardless of who gets the office, we are seriously fucked....Romney is the worse contender ever.....anyone competent could have wrapped this shit up already

Who is this posting? There's no way in hell it's Vince.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

You also said Romney made a big mistake after the first debate - how did that turn out.    People are sick of attack ads and are seeing through the gimmicks of one liners in place of substance.   I'm not saying the election is lost, but the recent poll trends should paint a clear picture that what you're spouting is drivel.

He did and he ended up having to backtrack them in addition with conflicting with Ryan's speeches he's made.....Romney only won one debate....Ryan and Biden tied....and Obama took the other 2.  Ultimately, it doesn't make either side cross the line but its always good to get the last laugh

[tommywishbone]

He did and he ended up having to backtrack them in addition with conflicting with Ryan's speeches he's made.....Romney only won one debate....Ryan and Biden tied....and Obama took the other 2. Ultimately, it doesn't make either side cross the line but its always good to get the last laugh

Identify yourself good sir and be recognized.

[MCWAY]

Romney has no staff in Wis so he's not winning that one and its unlikely that he'll win New Hampshire or Virginia.....his only chance is Ohio and that's not looking really good right now....the big thing is that his lead in other battlegrounds are razor thin so he'll have to divert resources to maintain them.

As far as the debate is concerned, people don't really care about the topic....its just a debate and with the race running so close you don't want to screw up.  Romney didn't do himself any favors last night.  He has very few paths to victory and way too many paths to losing.


The real loser is everyone...regardless of who gets the office, we are seriously fucked....Romney is the worse contender ever.....anyone competent could have wrapped this shit up already

Obama's lead in both NH and Wisconsin is shrinking almost daily and Ohio ain't quite going the president's way either.

Obviously, Ohio is plan A for Team Romney; but the combo of Wisconisin and NH is a attainable plan B.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Obama's lead in both NH and Wisconsin is shrinking almost daily and Ohio ain't quite going the president's way either.

Obviously, Ohio is plan A for Team Romney; but the combo of Wisconisin and NH is a attainable plan B.

Did you not pay attention what I said...


1.  Romney pulled out of Wisconsin last month....no staff whatsoever.....they've already conceded Wisconsin.  All number point to Obama...Romney has no lead or even a tie in any polls...making getting New Hampshire of no use although I don't see him winning that neither

2.  Ohio is Romney's only hope but there's no poll showing Romney in any lead in Ohio.  They are all Obama...won't change neither at this point. 

3.  Romney has to divert resources to maintain his razor thin leads in other states....if he loses just one of those states, Ohio won't make any difference.

[MCWAY]

Did you not pay attention what I said...


1.  Romney pulled out of Wisconsin last month....no staff whatsoever.....they've already conceded Wisconsin.  All number point to Obama...Romney has no lead or even a tie in any polls...making getting New Hampshire of no use although I don't see him winning that neither

Romney does have staff there (or, at the very least, they'll be on their way back). Ryan is eyeing his home state and says he feels very good about their chances there. The polls are tight and it's a viable option.

2.  Ohio is Romney's only hope but there's no poll showing Romney in any lead in Ohio.  They are all Obama...won't change neither at this point.  

Hardly!! Suffolk polling has it tied at 47; Rasmussen has Obama up just one....a significant DROP from where it was just a few weeks back. Obama's RCP average lead is less than 2 points. And you know that, in a essentially tied race, the undecideds go for the challenger, not the incumbent.

If that tradition holds true, Romney wins that state 51-48, at least.

3.  Romney has to divert resources to maintain his razor thin leads in other states....if he loses just one of those states, Ohio won't make any difference.

Romney is on the brink of locking up North Carolina. Florida and Virginia are pulling away for Romney as well. IF anyone has to divert funds to protect razor thin leads, it's Obama, not Romney.

Romney has PLENTY of resources; Obama, on the other hand, is bleeding cash like a stuck pick ($20+ million in the red).

And he's up in New Hampshire, according to a recent ARG poll. Like Wisconsin, Obama's average RCP lead is less than 2 (under a point and a half, at last check).

These (and other states) being up for grabs this late spell BAD NEWS for Obama. If Romney grabs Wisconsin, Colorado, and NH, he can win the election WITHOUT Ohio.

[Shockwave]

  USMC love our bayonets.

Fuck yeah we do.

[tu_holmes]

Just another one of his sophomore-ish statements that he was wrong on.

Romney pointed out that although he said Russia is the top geo-political foe, he called Iran the largest security threat and that is correct.

Actually I thought it was quite appropriate... Especially considering how the only Communist country is the Chinese.

So it does have some merit.

[flipper5470]

Kind of dumb to downplay the role of the navy given the importance of VA to his re-election.   Odd that he would pick on horses given the new monument near ground zero that was dedicated earlier that day...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/22/horse-soldier-near-world-trade-center-afghanistan_n_2000861.html

#notoptimal

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Romney does have staff there (or, at the very least, they'll be on their way back). Ryan is eyeing his home state and says he feels very good about their chances there. The polls are tight and it's a viable option.

Hardly!! Suffolk polling has it tied at 47; Rasmussen has Obama up just one....a significant DROP from where it was just a few weeks back. Obama's RCP average lead is less than 2 points. And you know that, in a essentially tied race, the undecideds go for the challenger, not the incumbent.

If that tradition holds true, Romney wins that state 51-48, at least.

Romney is on the brink of locking up North Carolina. Florida and Virginia are pulling away for Romney as well. IF anyone has to divert funds to protect razor thin leads, it's Obama, not Romney.

Romney has PLENTY of resources; Obama, on the other hand, is bleeding cash like a stuck pick ($20+ million in the red).

And he's up in New Hampshire, according to a recent ARG poll. Like Wisconsin, Obama's average RCP lead is less than 2 (under a point and a half, at last check).

These (and other states) being up for grabs this late spell BAD NEWS for Obama. If Romney grabs Wisconsin, Colorado, and NH, he can win the election WITHOUT Ohio.

The DNC is in the red....The Obama Campaign has plenty of cash and is using it to help the DNC

[Hulkotron]

The real loser is everyone...regardless of who gets the office, we are seriously fucked....Romney is the worse contender ever.....anyone competent could have wrapped this shit up already

The Republican party is really in a sad state right now.  This is an election they should be running away with, and yet this is the best campaign and the best candidate they can field.

[240 is Back]

The Republican party is really in a sad state right now.  This is an election they should be running away with, and yet this is the best campaign and the best candidate they can field.

tea party is over.   Period.   no rallies in 2012 like they had in 2010.   Their incumbents are having a problem now.  Senate remaining dem.

Romney is a brutal underachiever - barely beat softies like santorum and newt.   Should be cruising on obama, given the fact we're in a Depression and obamacare was shoved down our throat.   Very sad time in american history.  It should be Jeb/Christie battling with Hilary/Powell or something right now.  In a perfect world.

[Hulkotron]

Yes I hear Michelle Backman is about to receive a savage buttfucking from some guy I've never heard of.