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« on: October 24, 2012, 02:26:42 PM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/24/megachurch-gunman-opens-fire-creflo-dollars-georgia-church_n_2009611.html

COLLEGE PARK, Ga. A volunteer leading a prayer service at a Georgia megachurch was shot and killed Wednesday morning, and a former church employee was taken into custody hours later.

The shots were fired just before 10 a.m. inside a chapel on the campus of World Changers Church International, which says it has 30,000 followers in College Park, a suburb south of Atlanta.

The church's well-known founder and leader, the Rev. Creflo Dollar, was not at the church at the time of the shooting, Fulton County Police Cpl. Kay Lester said.

Authorities identified the suspect as Floyd Palmer, a former facilities maintenance employee at the church in his early 50s. Lester said Palmer had resigned from his job at the church in August for "personal reasons."

Palmer was taken into custody a few hours later, Deputy U.S. Marshal Eric Heinze said. No other details were immediately available.

About 20 to 25 people were gathered in the chapel Wednesday morning, when authorities say the gunman walked in and began shooting. No other people were wounded and the gunman fled in a black Subaru station wagon with tinted windows.

"He walked in calmly, opened fire, and left as calmly," Lester said.

The victim was identified as Gregory McDowell, a 39-year-old church volunteer who was leading a prayer at the time. Investigators were working to determine if Palmer and McDowell knew each other.

"We do not know if the victim was targeted," Lester said. "We are looking into that as he was the only person that was shot."

Although the campus has security officers and surveillance cameras, Lester said the suspect was known to some of those at Wednesday's morning service, so his presence wouldn't have been unusual.

A few schools in the surrounding neighborhood were locked down temporarily immediately after the shooting. Afternoon services at the church were canceled, Lester said.

The 50-year-old Dollar is one of the most well-known African-American preachers based around Atlanta, with a ministry of satellite churches across the U.S.

On the church grounds, yellow tape surrounded an older brick building that houses the chapel, which is about 50 yards away from the campus's massive World Dome. Police were not letting people onto the campus and were gradually letting members of the ministry out.

A security guard at the administrative office declined to comment as did several church employees.

Several church members walked over to the scene after hearing about the shooting.

"Why would anyone want to hurt the church?" said Adolph Hanley, 66, of College Park, who has attended the church for two years. "That's the devil's work."

"It doesn't surprise me," Hanley said. "People don't want the real Word."

Albert Henry, 55, of Riverdale, said his 5-year-old son was in day care near the chapel when the shooting took place. He said staffers called and told him to pick up the child.

"I can't believe someone just did it in the House of the Lord," said Henry, as his boy sat in the back seat.

Linda Pritchett, 43, a church member for 10 years, said the shooting didn't make her feel less secure attending services. She said people cannot give in to fear. But she said she was sad for the victim.

"When something happens to one of us, it hurts all of us," she said.

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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2012, 03:56:02 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2012, 04:01:53 PM »

Quick, somebody post a white guy shooting up something.
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2012, 04:28:06 PM »

Brother Creflo almost died for us bitches
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2012, 04:35:09 PM »

Quick, somebody post a white guy shooting up something.

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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2012, 04:45:44 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2012, 07:30:24 PM »

  Dollas are FILT
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2012, 07:31:11 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2012, 07:45:14 PM »

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2012, 07:52:10 PM »

An indication of the continuing legacy of slavery -- the mental slavery of blacks to Christianity. This I consider a worse tragedy than the socioeconomic malaise caused by slavery; at least the socioeconomic issues are tractable to some degree. Mental serfdom is much more difficult to break.
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2012, 10:11:12 PM »

  "When the whites came to our country, we had the land, and they
had the bible; now we have the bible, and they have the land."
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2012, 10:42:59 PM »

Must be the church this guy founded.

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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2012, 10:58:23 PM »

Megachurch shooting suspect was committed in Md.




COLLEGE PARK, Ga. (AP) A man suspected in Wednesday's fatal shooting at a Georgia megachurch was once committed to a mental health facility in Maryland after facing various criminal charges including attempted murder, according to court records.

Police in Georgia said Floyd Palmer, 51, walked into a chapel at World Changers Church International just before a 10 a.m. service and opened fire, killing church volunteer Greg McDowell, 39, while he was leading a prayer.

"He walked in calmly, opened fire, and left as calmly," Fulton County Police Cpl. Kay Lester said.

Palmer was a former facilities maintenance employee at the church who resigned in August for "personal reasons," Lester said. He previously lived in Maryland.

The church's well-known founder and leader, the Rev. Creflo Dollar, was not there at the time.

Palmer was taken into custody without incident a few hours later at an upscale mall in Atlanta's Buckhead neighborhood, Lester said. Police spotted his car in the parking lot of Lenox Square. They didn't recover a weapon.

He was being charged with homicide and possession of firearms in commission of a homicide, with additional charges pending.

Court records show a man named Floyd Lester Palmer, born on the same day in 1960, was charged in Baltimore in 2001 with attempted murder, assault and handgun charges. He was committed to a psychiatric hospital in 2004 after pleading not criminally responsible to lesser charges. The records show he was released the next year subject to conditions that were to remain in effect for five years.

The court filings include motions by the defense for a dangerousness evaluation, which was later withdrawn.

Baltimore police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said the department did not have arrest records in the case, which is not unusual in cases where someone has been committed. Palmer's attorney in the case, Kenneth Ravenell, was out of the country on Wednesday, his staff said.

About 20 to 25 people were gathered in the chapel when the shooting happened. No other people were wounded and the gunman fled in a black Subaru station wagon with tinted windows that was later spotted by police at a mall in Atlanta's Buckhead neighborhood.

Investigators were working to determine if Palmer and McDowell knew each other.

"We do not know if the victim was targeted," Lester said. "We are looking into that as he was the only person that was shot."

Ken Terry, a pastor at the church who is acting as a spokesman for McDowell's family, said the church family was distraught and trying to comfort McDowell's family.

"He would be considered a model dad," Terry told reporters. "To have this happen is just devastating."

Although the campus has security officers and surveillance cameras, Lester said the suspect was known to some at the service, so his presence wouldn't have been unusual.

The violence upset members and neighbors of the church, which is one of the largest in the United States, claiming 30,000 members at the main campus and a ministry of satellite churches across the country.

Along with Bishop Eddie Long, Dollar is one of the most prominent African-American preachers based around Atlanta who have built successful ministries on the prosperity gospel, which teaches that God wants to bless the faithful with earthly riches.

Dollar didn't immediately respond to requests for comment from The Associated Press, but he preached Wednesday evening at a Bible study in the campus's larger World Dome sanctuary. He repeated the importance of having faith in God even when bad things happen and rejecting fear and doubt.

"We pray for this family," he said, referring to McDowell. "We pray for both families and then we pray for every family that's in here tonight."

Earlier Wednesday, several church members walked over to the scene after hearing about the shooting.

"Why would anyone want to hurt the church?" asked Adolph Hanley, 66, of College Park, who has attended the church for two years. "That's the devil's work."

"It doesn't surprise me," Hanley said. "People don't want the real Word."

Albert Henry, 55, of Riverdale, said his 5-year-old son was in day care near the chapel when the shooting took place. He said staffers called and told him to pick up the child.

"I can't believe someone just did it in the House of the Lord," said Henry, as his boy sat in the back seat.

Linda Pritchett, 43, a church member for 10 years, said the shooting didn't make her feel less secure attending services. She said people cannot give in to fear. But she said she grieved for the victim and his family.

"When something happens to one of us, it hurts all of us," she said.

 
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2012, 02:08:46 AM »

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2012, 04:06:47 AM »

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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2012, 05:11:27 AM »

Someone got shot in Mcdonalds once. I vowed never again to to eat there, as the food, staff, and patrons must be flawed and everyone is out to get me.
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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2012, 05:14:49 AM »


Plenty of killing going on there.
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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2012, 06:05:18 AM »

Religion of peace

More peacful that Islam!  Blow yourself up and get 12 virgins!!!  HELLO MCFLY
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« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2012, 06:37:32 AM »

More peacful that Islam!  Blow yourself up and get 12 virgins!!!  HELLO MCFLY


Maybe in the last few centuries that is true, bigmike.  Christianity has its dark periods.  Religion is religion after all.
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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2012, 07:50:23 AM »

Someone got shot in Mcdonalds once. I vowed never again to to eat there, as the food, staff, and patrons must be flawed and everyone is out to get me.

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