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« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2012, 02:19:11 PM » |
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outstanding body!!!!!!
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« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2012, 02:23:01 PM » |
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outstanding body!!!!!!
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« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2012, 02:28:54 PM » |
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great physique regardless. After years of believing that alot of the bodybuilding results that are thrown in our faces can be achieved without bb drugs, i have faced reality and realized maybe if you train 40 years perfectly with perfect nutrition and perfect hormones and no other ailments... but to be shredded/dried out some drugs have to be in play... no matter what tricks one employs nutrition wise to dry out/etc...
Naturally now a days I can believe in someone being big but fat, or skinny and defined but not both ripped/huge.
Seriously lets get real from a historical perspective, how many people were like the people of today? None. If you look at the first generation of modern body builders... before the drugs.. what did they look like? Even the ones who started employing drugs...
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« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2012, 02:42:41 PM » |
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That's an impressive level of shredded, natural or not. But if he's natural (which is very unlikely in my opinion) then all the more respect. On a more personal note If I were him, I'd strive to hover about 205-210, maybe even 210-215, instead of 185-190. I just don't think the "shredded twink" look is appealing. |
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« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2012, 03:04:08 PM » |
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great conditioning
but NOT lifetime natural
the muscle is just too hard, seperated and full to be life time nattie
true lifetime natural will be flat without that 3d seperation
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« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2012, 03:06:56 PM » |
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this is the natural limit; I think i have similar genetics to sandow but i am not at his level yet.   |
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« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2012, 03:19:58 PM » |
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i think my back was more shredded but i had never had anywhere near having shredded glutes
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« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2012, 03:38:00 PM » |
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i think my back was more shredded but i had never had anywhere near having shredded glutes
pics or it didnt happen (no homo) |
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« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2012, 03:56:54 PM » |
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this is the natural limit; I think i have similar genetics to sandow but i am not at his level yet. when you get there, please post some fig leaf pics. |
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« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2012, 05:23:28 PM » |
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not natural..low doses that's all. No natural can achieve that conditionning/density ratio. Natural = flat.
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« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2012, 06:02:43 PM » |
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this is the natural limit; Bullshit |
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« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2012, 07:41:24 PM » |
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i competed here drug free/clean 171 lbs...
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« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2012, 07:47:38 PM » |
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I think that the ammount of muscle the dude has is achievable naturally provided the genetics, but not at his bodyfat
he dieted down for nearly a year and is really lean, that in it's self would make his testosterone levels really low and increase coristol.
he is on some form of trt and never has that problem it seems
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« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2012, 07:59:26 PM » |
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That level of conditioning is attainable with out drugs of any kind.
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« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2012, 08:19:19 PM » |
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That level of conditioning is attainable with out drugs of any kind.
even without eca? |
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« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2012, 08:30:01 PM » |
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« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2012, 09:05:12 PM » |
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even without eca?
YES, eca dnp no type of stims get you "more" ripped just maybe a tad easier. It's all calorie restriction. |
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« Reply #42 on: October 28, 2012, 09:13:53 PM » |
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He's in that grey area of "maybe." Proper nutrition and macros, ECA, DNP, BCCA and Creatine + grey market peptides = "natural."
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« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2012, 09:17:27 PM » |
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NOT Natural. PED.
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« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2012, 10:53:12 PM » |
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He's in that grey area of "maybe." Proper nutrition and macros, ECA, DNP, BCCA and Creatine + grey market peptides = "natural."
I'm buds with a handful of really great natural pros, and your list sounds right except I know of NOBODY who uses DNP. Lol. And f*** that pesticide, you gotta be crazy to use it. And this dude would be a decent (real) natty pro onstage, but not the best. Yes, he could be legit. |
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« Reply #45 on: October 29, 2012, 02:08:22 AM » |
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i really wonder why some of you believe he is natural? have you ever seen someone who looks like this, whom you have known to be natural? have you achieved this look, or better, yourself?  in my opinion, PED. |
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« Reply #46 on: October 29, 2012, 02:22:21 AM » |
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There are guys out there that do not even lift at all, that look like this, minus the shredded glutes...
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« Reply #47 on: October 29, 2012, 02:42:14 AM » |
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There are guys out there that do not even lift at all, that look like this, minus the shredded glutes...
Oh brother |
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« Reply #48 on: October 29, 2012, 02:49:38 AM » |
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cyp are you suggesting "bebop396" might not be thinking straight as he mentally assesses the many muscle bound men he knows?
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« Reply #49 on: October 29, 2012, 03:01:00 AM » |
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cyp are you suggesting "bebop396" might not be thinking straight as he mentally assesses the many muscle bound men he knows?
What I'm saying bro, is that begscock247 soaks his pogo stick overnight in sunflower oil and hops to the gym without using his hands once |
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