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« on: November 01, 2012, 01:24:06 PM »

I find it crazy that the wanted effects of steroids are limited.  Gains eventually fade, look at every retired pro except DJ!

But the sides, from enlarged heart to gyno to hair loss and so forth are permanent.  Crazy.  Sometimes I wonder what the hell we are doing!
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2012, 03:05:37 PM »

I find it crazy that the wanted effects of steroids are limited.  Gains eventually fade, look at every retired pro except DJ!

But the sides, from enlarged heart to gyno to hair loss and so forth are permanent.  Crazy.  Sometimes I wonder what the hell we are doing!

Stay on, use ancillaries. No drug no BB. Natural is only for the first five years of consistent training. HTH.
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2012, 07:48:57 AM »

I hate it too! I used for about 9 months straight and decided to go off cycle . I looked dope  so I snapped a few pictures because I knew a month later I would not look like I did at that point! after the 9month run I took a 2 week break used all my pct drugs lost size as I expected went back in the gym and those weights I was lifting felt heavy! I had to lower the weight and just train for high reps for awhile before I got some of my strength back. shout a 2week break can really mess things up. It takes so long building up your weight and physique, and in just 2 weeks of not lifting almost everything goes to shit. It come back but due to muscle memory but that is what sucks about working out! You have to be super consistent!

Hell I worked out almost everyday for 9 months and just after a measily two weeks I shrank up some and weights felt heavy. Its not a fair sport unless you juice all year and train 5 days a week wich is hard to do. you almost have to be unemployed! It's hard to work and lift weights all in one day! Americans shouldn't have to live such stressful lives!
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2012, 10:51:25 AM »

Haha!  You are right, u have to quit your job if you want to train 5 days a week and must stay on forever to keep your size!
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2012, 02:22:24 PM »

I find it crazy that the wanted effects of steroids are limited.  Gains eventually fade, look at every retired pro except DJ!

But the sides, from enlarged heart to gyno to hair loss and so forth are permanent.  Crazy.  Sometimes I wonder what the hell we are doing!


You'll be fine with the bit of var you're taking. Abuse anything in life and there will be consequenses!

Oh and wrt certain things like gyno and hair loss those will happen to some people even without steroids....

Nothing in this life is permanent....we are all slowly dying. Use these things to enhance life not to consume everything about it.

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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2012, 03:32:07 AM »

Man just look at some former pro bodybuilders like mustafa mohamed! He looked almost Top 3 Mr.O for awhile then stopped the juice and constant training and he is now a twink! I have seen so many pro and amateur bodybuilders who stopped juicing and training and all of them just look like normal people! everybody seems to shrink pretty fast after years of juicing and working out everyday!

gains go quick so does strength! that is why even if you are not juicing you better get your ass in the gym 5 days a week and at least diet correctly and use proper OTC supplements. Some people say supplements are just a rip-off but it is not true! There are some great OTC supplements! I have used some great OTC supplements that have gaven me near steroid like gains.
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2012, 03:41:43 AM »

Man just look at some former pro bodybuilders like mustafa mohamed! He looked almost Top 3 Mr.O for awhile then stopped the juice and constant training and he is now a twink! I have seen so many pro and amateur bodybuilders who stopped juicing and training and all of them just look like normal people! everybody seems to shrink pretty fast after years of juicing and working out everyday!

gains go quick so does strength! that is why even if you are not juicing you better get your ass in the gym 5 days a week and at least diet correctly and use proper OTC supplements. Some people say supplements are just a rip-off but it is not true! There are some great OTC supplements! I have used some great OTC supplements that have gaven me near steroid like gains.
for example ?
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2012, 05:15:23 AM »

for example ?

some were once legal,some still are

M1T
superdrol
Methyl 4AD
Halodrol-50
Methyl 5-AA
MHN(methyl hydroxy nandrolone)
Ergomax LMG
ergopharm 1-AD
orastan-E
Orastan-A
1-Test cypionate
4-test cypionate
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DHEA
gaspari novedex xt
vitargo cgl
EAS Phosphagen
american celluar labs tren xtreme
Tribulus from a good company
No2
dermasize- produced great vascularity
17-HD- first batch anyway.

there are alot of good products that you will naturally gain on. I honestly think EAS Phosphagen is some creatin worth the time and money.  Vitargo is also great in certain situations. It def works. I also think protein shakes are great. I prefer the cytosport muscle milk powder and add some flax and granola,yogurt, scoop of peanut butter sometimes half a banana. great for a quick pre or post workout shake. some people are hardgainers, but these supps do work for some.
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2012, 01:51:34 PM »

some were once legal,some still are

M1T
superdrol
Methyl 4AD
Halodrol-50
Methyl 5-AA
MHN(methyl hydroxy nandrolone)
Ergomax LMG
ergopharm 1-AD
orastan-E
Orastan-A
1-Test cypionate
4-test cypionate
________________________ _

DHEA
gaspari novedex xt
vitargo cgl
EAS Phosphagen
american celluar labs tren xtreme
Tribulus from a good company
No2
dermasize- produced great vascularity (vanadyl sulfate was also very good in this respect)
17-HD- first batch anyway.

there are alot of good products that you will naturally gain on. I honestly think EAS Phosphagen is some creatin worth the time and money.  Vitargo is also great in certain situations. It def works. I also think protein shakes are great. I prefer the cytosport muscle milk powder and add some flax and granola,yogurt, scoop of peanut butter sometimes half a banana. great for a quick pre or post workout shake. some people are hardgainers, but these supps do work for some.


That was the first creatine i ever tried before it caught on with the masses. It was definitely worth the time and money.
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