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Union Thugs SUCK!
« on: November 02, 2012, 02:16:19 PM »

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Re: Union Thugs SUCK!
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2012, 02:35:43 PM »

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Re: Union Thugs SUCK!
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2012, 02:57:43 PM »

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Re: Union Thugs SUCK!
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2012, 02:58:52 PM »
Did either of you even bother to read beyond the headline?

Headlines is leftwing so he doesnt read them

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Re: Union Thugs SUCK!
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2012, 03:55:17 PM »
http://www.waff.com/story/19981857/some-nonunion-ala-crews-turned-away-from-sandy-recovery



Disgusting.  FNG Union thugs. 

If you were in a union you wouldn't have to live in your POS apartment in the ghetto :D

A union would also negotiate a fair wage for someone who isn't smart enough to do so on their own, like yourself

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Re: Union Thugs SUCK!
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2012, 04:04:50 PM »
end all union laws

group negotiate but no government enforcing shit corp doesnt agree too

end all pensions

get paid for workl production no ist on ass

no unions at al for government jobs

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Re: Union Thugs SUCK!
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2012, 02:55:59 AM »
If you were in a union you wouldn't have to live in your POS apartment in the ghetto :D

A union would also negotiate a fair wage for someone who isn't smart enough to do so on their own, like yourself


So true

Funny how people who hate unions need them the most

Stockholm syndrome

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Re: Union Thugs SUCK!
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2012, 03:38:32 AM »
Unions are waaaaaay outdated. Their time has past. Its a massive shakedown machine for the head of the unions. The article says that their was confusion etc...I thought your douchbag messiah said to cut through the red tape?
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Re: Union Thugs SUCK!
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2012, 04:31:28 AM »
Washington Examiner ^ | 11/02/12 | Paul Bedard
Posted on November 3, 2012, 5:45:14 AM EDT by Libloather

Union halting power repair crews is top Democratic donor
Paul Bedard - Washington Secrets
November 2, 2012 | 12:36 pm

The International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, cited in news reports for halting nonunion repair crews from helping to restore power in superstorm Sandy's New Jersey-New York path, is one of nation's top union donors to Democrats, a group President Obama last year praised in a visit to an IBEW training Center.

The Center for Responsive Politics, a public political spending watchdog, said IBEW has the nation's fifth highest spending political action committee, doling out nearly $2.3 million, 97 percent of which went to Democrats. According to the group, IBEW during this election cycle has given $2,928,973 to Democratic House and Senate candidates, and just $51,600 to Republicans. They have also helped raise money for Obama.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...

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Re: Union Thugs SUCK!
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2012, 09:59:41 AM »
Unions are out of control. YES.
Unions are still needed. YES.
If unions "went away", corporations would rape the fuck out of their employees on EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY COULD. (They try that now with unions). FACT.
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2012, 10:01:10 AM »
Unions are out of control. YES.
Unions are still needed. YES.
If unions "went away", corporations would rape the fuck out of their employees on EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY COULD. (They try that now with unions). FACT.
Correct.
Everything is out of control, corruption is everywhere. It's time for the cleansing fire.

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Re: Union Thugs SUCK!
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2012, 01:25:18 PM »
Unions are out of control. YES.
Unions are still needed. YES.
If unions "went away", corporations would rape the fuck out of their employees on EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY COULD. (They try that now with unions). FACT.

This, and all the other nonunion jobs follow the union wage as a baseline,if the baseline goes down so does the nonunion baseline. A lot of people on here seem so concerned with "socialism", breaking the unions would be a huge step towards socialism...

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Re: Union Thugs SUCK!
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2012, 03:22:18 PM »
16.169380514873101064313 654143546 days left and 333386 is history...  :'(

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Re: Union Thugs SUCK!
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2012, 03:47:20 AM »
The Daily Caller ^ | November 3, 2012 | David Martosko
Posted on November 4, 2012, 5:44:25 AM EST by Cincinatus' Wife

In a two-page Oct. 29 contract, the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW) local 1049 demanded union dues, pay hikes and benefit contributions from Florida electric utilities before its workers would be permitted to help reconnect power to Long Island communities. The demand came as Hurricane Sandy was bearing down on the Northeastern United States, stranding tens of millions without electricity.

The “Letter of Assent,” which The Daily Caller obtained from the Florida Municipal Electric Association, demanded 11 separate financial commitments from municipal power companies and electrical cooperatives in the Sunshine State. The agreement, for any utility that decided to sign it, would have been in force from Oct. 29 to Nov. 29.

Barry Moline, the association’s executive director, told TheDC that by Nov. 1 the union, based in the central Long Island town of Hauppauge, had relented and stopped insisting that nonunion crews pay dues and other union fees.

“The union director” himself placed a phone call to withdraw the letter, Moline said during a telephone interview Saturday. But that came only after Moline had notified a national trade group, the American Public Power Association, which turned outrage into action.

Letter mid-page -- use "view in full screen" function

The Florida Municipal Electric Association is a statewide trade group that represents 34 separate utility companies. The letter, Moline said, was sent to Florida’s nonunion power companies.

“We had crews ready to go on Monday when the storm hit,” he told TheDC. ”We had dozens of line workers ready to go. There have been hundreds of line workers who have been told, ‘We don’t want you unless you’re part of the union.’ And as a result, people in New York and New Jersey are having the power turned on slower than everywhere else.”

“The word we were getting all week was that New York was short by hundreds of [electric] linemen,” he told TheDC. “Well, okay. We’ve got them. Florida is two days away, so you need a head start.”

Of those workers who were ready to drive north, he said, “probably about 25 stayed put” because of the Long Island IBEW local’s demands. “Another 35 were delayed by five days.”

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said Friday that he wouldn’t permit discrimination against nonunion crews eager to help reconnect consumers who have gone without power for days. He threatened to invoke his office’s emergency powers if necessary.

But in New York, no government official has stepped in to ensure that utility crews from other states won’t have to show their union membership cards before going to work — even though their own employers are paying for them to repair power lines in the Empire State.

Eventually, Moline said, his state’s crews “went everywhere else” affected by Sandy, “but it was only in New York where the union had to give their blessing.”

“It just made me sick that you’ve got people who have no power,” he said, “and you hear about a lot of people dying.”

On Saturday TheDC requested comments from New York State Public Service Commissioner James Larocca and spokespersons for Gov. Andrew Cuomo, State Labor Commissioner Peter Rivera and New York City May0r Michael Bloomberg.

Only one of those persons responded and asked for a copy of the letter. He would not answer questions on the record about whether government agencies could have exercised — or did exercise — emergency powers to clear the way for nonunion power crews who wanted to assist.

N.Y. Energy Law 5-117 addresses the governor’s special powers “during [an] energy or fuel emergency,” but those powers are limited to fuel and energy allocation, stopping wasteful energy uses, and temporarily waiving environmental laws.

TheDC also emailed Don Daley Jr., IBEW local 1049′s business manager and financial secretary, for comment. Daley’s name appeared on the “Letter of Assent” emailed to the Florida utilities, as the person who would sign on the union’s behalf.

He did not respond to questions about whether his union is using a natural disaster to grow its membership and collect revenue.

Claims similar to Florida’s have come in from Alabama and Georgia since the superstorm hit, but this report marks the first time documentary evidence has been presented to the public.

The letter received by Florida utilities demanded that they pay IBEW member dues, provide workers with union-scale wages plus overtime, and allow crews to observe the “normal working hours” dictated by the IBEW’s contract.

It also required the companies to pay fixed percentages of every worker’s hourly wage into seven separate union-controlled funds, including a $9.75 per work-hour payment to the IBEW’s health care plan and 22.5 cents for every dollar of salary into its pension fund.

TheDC calculated that for a nonunion crew foreman normally earning $40 per hour in Florida, the mandated higher wages plus union contributions and dues would force a utility to pay $67.74 per hour for each worker completing power restoration tasks in New York.

For work performed on weekends or after 4:00 p.m. on weekdays, that overall rate would jump to $70.38.

On Saturday TheDC reported that a Florida utility crewman said his employer idled workers while a much longer union contract document went through legal review earlier in the week.

An IBEW spokesman told TheDC on Friday that ”the IBEW did not send the documents, nor did any of our locals.”

But he didn’t reply when asked if he had communicated with all 273 locals in the union districts where Sandy’s impact was felt. Those include 20 IBEW locals in New Jersey, 48 in New York, 10 in Connecticut and 52 in Pennsylvania.

It’s now clear that at least one of those 48 New York locals — no. 1049 on long Island — did make membership demands as a condition of Florida utilities coming north to help restore electricity.

The name of the letter’s electronic file was “letter of assent E No Car GENERIC,” suggesting that it may have been drafted first for North Carolina utilities. So far, no utilities from that state have come forward to say they were approached by IBEW local 1049.

Moline said some power utilities in Florida are unionized and others are not. That decision should be approached thoughtfully and deliberately, he explained. “We’re not going to be held hostage.”

“I’m not anti-union,” he insisted. “I think unions are fine. I was just surprised to find that in the middle of an emergency that the union would stand in the way.”

“I didn’t know how the Long Island Power Authority was putting up with it,” he said. “The union was saying, ‘No, you have to join us first.’”

“I thought, ‘Is this really happening?’”

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Re: Union Thugs SUCK!
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2012, 04:45:00 AM »
 Unions and corporations want two things: money and votes.

 What's the alternative to the two?

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Re: Union Thugs SUCK!
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2012, 05:05:17 AM »
Unions and corporations want two things: money and votes.

 What's the alternative to the two?

Everybody wants money but unions make sure people get decent working conditions

People like 33..../Coach is sucking Newt Ginrichs dick on this issue

As usual they are just repeating the BS corrupt right wingers tell them

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Re: Union Thugs SUCK!
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2012, 10:29:11 AM »
Phila. police tie construction-site arson to union sabotage


INGA SAFFRON / Staff

The burned-out cab of a crane sits on the Chestnut Hill site where nonunion labor was erecting a Quaker meetinghouse.



http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/20121229_Phila__police_tie_construction-site_arson_to_union_sabotage.html



Police nevertheless believe that it is unlikely that a random vandal carried out the attack on the Chestnut Hill site, where the steel outline of the future meetinghouse is visible. The vandals used an acetylene torch, which requires a skilled operator who must wear a special mask and gloves.
 
Employees arriving for work Dec. 21 said they found the site in disarray. The cab of a large, mobile building crane had been completely burned. Vandals had also used the torch to shear off the steel bolts on nearly a dozen columns. Three others were hacked halfway through at the base, as if someone were trying to cut down a tree.
 
McClay said police had no leads. "There is not a whole lot to go on. There were no witnesses, no video," he said. The attack has been declared an arson.
 
Contractor Robert N. Reeves Jr. said he was convinced union members were involved.
 
"I don't think this was a spontaneous group of kids who did this," he said during a tour of the site Friday. "We're really talking about the bad behavior of union bullies."
 
He estimated that the cost of the damage could run over $500,000.
 
His company, Abington-based E. Allen Reeves, is one of many suburban firms that maintains an open shop, hiring both union and nonunion subcontractors. He said he had tangled with union members over his hiring practices.
 
There had been no organized picketing at this site, Reeves said. But several days before the attack, he said, representatives of several construction unions appeared at the site to discuss hiring their members. They were rebuffed, and afterward the representative from the ironworkers union "basically said to the superintendent that 'he would do what he had to do,' " according to Reeves.
 
Ed Sweeney, business manager for the International Association of Bridge, Structural, Ornamental, and Reinforcing Iron Workers, could not be reached for comment Friday. He told the Philadelphia Daily News last week that he had not heard about the arson.
 
"I was up there last week and said hello to the guy, and asked if he wanted to hire any ironworkers, and he didn't even talk to me," Sweeney said.
 
The project is believed to be the first new Quaker meetinghouse in Philadelphia in more than a half- century. A statement by Chestnut Hill Friends said that the project was insured and that the damages were likely to be covered.