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Undercover Boss - most staged show on tv
« on: November 02, 2012, 05:47:10 PM »
This show has to be the most staged pile of crap on Television.   Every single episode, some sad sack of an employee (who is always overly enthusiastic about his or her job) pours his or her heart out to the undercover boss.  "My Daughter has Leukemia"  "I have to work three jobs to support my handicapped son"   "I've always wanted to go back to school to get my degree so I can fulfill a promise to my dying Grandmother"  

It's absolutely ridiculous to believe people would pour their heart out to a alleged stranger - who is actually a Boss.  Also ridiculous to believe people would not figure out they are being filmed for the Undercover Boss show when they have a camera crew following you around all day long like that.   This show is the most staged piece of crap on tv.

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Re: Undercover Boss
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2012, 05:56:20 PM »
Ya its one big giant commercial for the company. I bet they pay to be on the show. Should be illegal.

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Re: Undercover Boss
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2012, 07:25:21 PM »
Yup, same with the restaurant ones where the hide the camera

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Re: Undercover Boss
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2012, 02:39:21 PM »
Yup, same with the restaurant ones where the hide the camera

Yup, was confirmed they use actors as employees on that show. 

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Re: Undercover Boss - most staged show on tv
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2012, 07:05:20 PM »
Yeah, totally agree.  I really dislike "Undercover Boss" and/or "Undercover CEO", whatever the fuck the show is.  Same with "Secret Millionaire". 

A person has to wonder what sort of entity would produce such absolutely objectionable shit.

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Re: Undercover Boss - most staged show on tv
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2013, 04:15:56 PM »
I'd like to see the reality version of it.

I knew this about my last boss. It was as though he couldn't help himself even when he did things that some partners would call him out for.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100914520?__source=xfinity|mod&par=xfinity

Sometimes, the boss really is a psycho

The bully, the narcissist, the know-it-all, even the psychopath.


We may not like them, or want our children to be like them. But chances are, almost everyone who has worked long enough has a horror story about a superior who generally behaved like Homer Simpson's boss, Mr. Charles Montgomery "Monty" Burns.

A growing number of researchers are looking into what makes a real-life Mr. Burns, and what they are finding isn't always pretty.

"There are whole climates and cultures of abuse in the workplace," said Darren Treadway, an associate professor at the University at Buffalo School of Management. His recent research looks at why bullies are able to persist, and sometimes even thrive, at work.

He said many people have either seen or experienced bullying at work because some bullies are skilled enough to figure out who they can abuse to get ahead, and who they can charm to get away with it.

"The successful ones are very, very socially skilled," he said. "They're capable of disguising their behavior."

Both popular culture and real life are rife with examples of alleged bullying. Just this week, San Diego Mayor Bob Filner was accused by his communications director, Irene McCormack Jackson, of harassment including dragging her around in a headlock and whispering sexual advances. Filner has rejected the claims.

2 in 10 workers: Boss hurt my career

Experts say a good boss can really help your career, but a bad boss can be devastating. A survey of 2,000 adults released earlier this year by Glassdoor found that about 2 in 10 workers say a manager has hurt their career.


Smart bad bosses can be hard to spot, some experts say, because they are extremely good at manipulating and charming some people, while abusing others.

Industrial organizational psychologist Paul Babiak first grew interested in studying psychopaths at work after he was called in to consult for a dysfunctional team. He found an abusive, lying boss—and a team that was staunchly divided into two camps.

"(There was) a subset of the team that really loved this guy— idolized him—and then there was another group of people who thought he was a snake," Babiak said.


Very few companies will admit that they want a bad boss in their corporate ranks. But experts say that bad bosses do have some aspects of American corporate culture working in their favor.

That includes the results-at-all-costs mentality that pervades many publicly held companies and the stereotype that a good boss should be aggressive and bold.

When Babiak presents the first part of his research on corporate professionals who are psychopaths, he said he often hears from senior leaders who wonder why psychopaths are so bad. That's because they would actually like to have a manager who comes across as strong, decisive and aggressive.

The allure is often short-lived.

OK, they're not actual psychopathic patients

"Usually by lunchtime they realize … that you can't pick and choose the traits that you want," he said. "If you are hiring a psychopath you will get pathological lying. You will get grandiose sense of self."


By contrast, he said the initial response he usually gets from lower level workers is, "Oh my God, you're describing my boss."

Of course, most bosses aren't horrendous enough to deserve an actual diagnosis of psychopathy.

"At first, the tendency is to see (a bad) boss as a psychopath," said Sigrid Gustafson, an industrial organizational psychologist who runs the consulting firm Success Exceleration. "There are a lot of ways to be a jerk, and there are a lot of ways to be a bad boss."

Babiak said about 4 percent of the 203 executives he studied were diagnosable psychopaths, compared to about 1 percent of the broader population. A person is considered a psychopath if they score very high on an evaluation that looks at four factors and finds that they are particularly manipulative, without remorse or empathy, live a deviant lifestyle and are antisocial.

It's more likely that the boss you dislike is just not very good at supervising employees. Babiak said the most common type of boss is what he calls the unskilled boss.

"The not-so-nice name is the abusive boss," he said. "They tend to be offensive because they're not polished."

These are the bosses who scold people in public, don't handle stress well and aren't always fair. That's in contrast to the two other types of bosses he's identified: The good, predictable, tough-but-fair boss and the really bad, psychopathic boss.

Nice people are less likely to emerge as leaders

In general, Timothy Judge, a management professor at the University of Notre Dame, said his research has shown that agreeable people—those who are cooperative, nice and gentle—are less likely to emerge as leaders than disagreeable people. That's even though agreeable leaders tend to do just as good a job as disagreeable people, he said.


More generally, Judge's data also has shown that being agreeable can harm many aspects of career success, including salary negotiations, occupational prestige and career attainment.

"We have this quality that we say we really want in people, and yet if you look at the labor market it really punishes that," Judge said.

The extremely bad bosses, such as the "aberrant self-promoters" Gustafson has identified, aren't necessarily more prevalent in the upper ranks than any other type of personality, she said. However, these truly bad bosses are more memorable because they wreak so much havoc.

"They have more influence and they're more likely to bully and intimidate and ruin other people," she said.


Taking credit for others' work

That kind of charming, risk-loving personality can sometimes help a company achieve great things—although Gustafson said that's usually by getting their loyal workers to do the work, rather than doing it themselves. But Gustafson said their weaknesses often mean that companies find the success is short-lived.


"In the end, they will find that something has gone really badly amiss," she said.

She was recently called in to consult for a company that was lulled into hiring a destructive boss, and asked her to evaluate the person that had replaced the bad boss, to make sure they didn't make the same mistake twice.

Many experts say it can be hard, at first, to distinguish the gifted leader from the narcissist or the bully. That's partly because some of the attributes we admire in leaders—such as the boldness and attention to detail so coveted by the likes of the late Apple executive Steve Jobs—can also turn darker.

Bill Wales, professor of management at James Madison University in Harrisonburg, Va., said his research has shown that narcissistic chief executives tend to lead more entrepreneurial companies.

That doesn't mean that they are more successful, he notes. It just means that they are much more likely to take big risks or make bold moves, which may end up being major coups or miserable failures.

"You're getting both bigger wins and bigger losses," Wales said.

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Re: Undercover Boss - most staged show on tv
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2013, 05:12:30 PM »
Over here in the UK a company i once worked for featured on it. Whilst we all knew something wasnt quite right it was essentially real. One of my good friends was promoted to regional training manager BUT he had to do several takes because they wanted him to cry, show more emotion etc until it became a farce. By the time it was done he didnt give a shit about the job as he wasnt given a chance to fully appreciate the promotion.

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Re: Undercover Boss - most staged show on tv
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2013, 11:27:57 PM »
I'd like to see the reality version of it.

I knew this about my last boss. It was as though he couldn't help himself even when he did things that some partners would call him out for.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100914520?__source=xfinity|mod&par=xfinity

Sometimes, the boss really is a psycho

The bully, the narcissist, the know-it-all, even the psychopath.


We may not like them, or want our children to be like them. But chances are, almost everyone who has worked long enough has a horror story about a superior who generally behaved like Homer Simpson's boss, Mr. Charles Montgomery "Monty" Burns.

A growing number of researchers are looking into what makes a real-life Mr. Burns, and what they are finding isn't always pretty.

"There are whole climates and cultures of abuse in the workplace," said Darren Treadway, an associate professor at the University at Buffalo School of Management. His recent research looks at why bullies are able to persist, and sometimes even thrive, at work.

He said many people have either seen or experienced bullying at work because some bullies are skilled enough to figure out who they can abuse to get ahead, and who they can charm to get away with it.

"The successful ones are very, very socially skilled," he said. "They're capable of disguising their behavior."

Both popular culture and real life are rife with examples of alleged bullying. Just this week, San Diego Mayor Bob Filner was accused by his communications director, Irene McCormack Jackson, of harassment including dragging her around in a headlock and whispering sexual advances. Filner has rejected the claims.

2 in 10 workers: Boss hurt my career

Experts say a good boss can really help your career, but a bad boss can be devastating. A survey of 2,000 adults released earlier this year by Glassdoor found that about 2 in 10 workers say a manager has hurt their career.


Smart bad bosses can be hard to spot, some experts say, because they are extremely good at manipulating and charming some people, while abusing others.

Industrial organizational psychologist Paul Babiak first grew interested in studying psychopaths at work after he was called in to consult for a dysfunctional team. He found an abusive, lying boss—and a team that was staunchly divided into two camps.

"(There was) a subset of the team that really loved this guy— idolized him—and then there was another group of people who thought he was a snake," Babiak said.


Very few companies will admit that they want a bad boss in their corporate ranks. But experts say that bad bosses do have some aspects of American corporate culture working in their favor.

That includes the results-at-all-costs mentality that pervades many publicly held companies and the stereotype that a good boss should be aggressive and bold.

When Babiak presents the first part of his research on corporate professionals who are psychopaths, he said he often hears from senior leaders who wonder why psychopaths are so bad. That's because they would actually like to have a manager who comes across as strong, decisive and aggressive.

The allure is often short-lived.

OK, they're not actual psychopathic patients

"Usually by lunchtime they realize … that you can't pick and choose the traits that you want," he said. "If you are hiring a psychopath you will get pathological lying. You will get grandiose sense of self."


By contrast, he said the initial response he usually gets from lower level workers is, "Oh my God, you're describing my boss."

Of course, most bosses aren't horrendous enough to deserve an actual diagnosis of psychopathy.

"At first, the tendency is to see (a bad) boss as a psychopath," said Sigrid Gustafson, an industrial organizational psychologist who runs the consulting firm Success Exceleration. "There are a lot of ways to be a jerk, and there are a lot of ways to be a bad boss."

Babiak said about 4 percent of the 203 executives he studied were diagnosable psychopaths, compared to about 1 percent of the broader population. A person is considered a psychopath if they score very high on an evaluation that looks at four factors and finds that they are particularly manipulative, without remorse or empathy, live a deviant lifestyle and are antisocial.

It's more likely that the boss you dislike is just not very good at supervising employees. Babiak said the most common type of boss is what he calls the unskilled boss.

"The not-so-nice name is the abusive boss," he said. "They tend to be offensive because they're not polished."

These are the bosses who scold people in public, don't handle stress well and aren't always fair. That's in contrast to the two other types of bosses he's identified: The good, predictable, tough-but-fair boss and the really bad, psychopathic boss.

Nice people are less likely to emerge as leaders

In general, Timothy Judge, a management professor at the University of Notre Dame, said his research has shown that agreeable people—those who are cooperative, nice and gentle—are less likely to emerge as leaders than disagreeable people. That's even though agreeable leaders tend to do just as good a job as disagreeable people, he said.


More generally, Judge's data also has shown that being agreeable can harm many aspects of career success, including salary negotiations, occupational prestige and career attainment.

"We have this quality that we say we really want in people, and yet if you look at the labor market it really punishes that," Judge said.

The extremely bad bosses, such as the "aberrant self-promoters" Gustafson has identified, aren't necessarily more prevalent in the upper ranks than any other type of personality, she said. However, these truly bad bosses are more memorable because they wreak so much havoc.

"They have more influence and they're more likely to bully and intimidate and ruin other people," she said.


Taking credit for others' work

That kind of charming, risk-loving personality can sometimes help a company achieve great things—although Gustafson said that's usually by getting their loyal workers to do the work, rather than doing it themselves. But Gustafson said their weaknesses often mean that companies find the success is short-lived.


"In the end, they will find that something has gone really badly amiss," she said.

She was recently called in to consult for a company that was lulled into hiring a destructive boss, and asked her to evaluate the person that had replaced the bad boss, to make sure they didn't make the same mistake twice.

Many experts say it can be hard, at first, to distinguish the gifted leader from the narcissist or the bully. That's partly because some of the attributes we admire in leaders—such as the boldness and attention to detail so coveted by the likes of the late Apple executive Steve Jobs—can also turn darker.

Bill Wales, professor of management at James Madison University in Harrisonburg, Va., said his research has shown that narcissistic chief executives tend to lead more entrepreneurial companies.

That doesn't mean that they are more successful, he notes. It just means that they are much more likely to take big risks or make bold moves, which may end up being major coups or miserable failures.

"You're getting both bigger wins and bigger losses," Wales said.

Good read