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beans21
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« on: November 02, 2012, 10:24:38 PM »

I plan on doing my first bb show in April next year and was wondering what I should do in regards of cycle. I was thinking a 16-20 weeks cycle. but I was debating on not using tren and only half of my desired does of test for the first 8 weeks...is this a common practice?
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2012, 10:48:09 AM »

Some people do it, but in my opinion you should start off your cycle with a good dose to get things rolling. Once you get closer to your show you can adjust compounds and dosages depending on where you are at.

16-20 weeks is fine. Post up your plans and people will probably comment more.

Good luck!


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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2012, 10:19:34 AM »

thanks...
i was thinking.
weeks 1-8 400mg test
weeks 8-16 800mg test e, 400mg tren ace.
weeks 16-20 I will swap test e for test prop.
weeks 18-20 ill use halo.
I like using more test then tren. plus I don't get the common sides.
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2012, 07:56:24 AM »

How many cycles have you done, have you tested each one of these drugs in your system one at a time in the off season?
Do you know how you will react when they are combined?

Personally I prefer to test them off season, if you test on season and it gives you a setback or two, your show is over.
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2012, 01:19:20 PM »

This will be my 6th cycle. I have never used halo but my last 3 cycles were test and tren ace. Most was 750mg test and 350 mg tren ace. I just have never used the compounds over 9 weeks
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2012, 04:43:40 PM »

I have always used a taper both up and down. I know its old school but my body likes it better.

Prone to acne it sure does help.

I always start with 500, then 750, then 1000, 1250, 1500 and then down again after 16-30 weeks.
With my tren i start 50, 75, 100 then down closer to end.

Var\winny etc dont seem to bother me like the other drugs do.

Its a little more complicated when your already on, then add in a drug etc. In most cases my base is stable before I add any other compounds.
Hope that helps.

FYI your cycle layout looks fine, you can up the test and add in the tren.
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2012, 01:15:41 AM »

thanks. I might up test to 1g max and tren 700mg max.  When you taper up your dose is that done weekly? I'm not a big guy (5'3 170) so I'm not sure how I would respond to a bigger dose for that long. Guess I'll have to see. Have you used halo before? I'm new to it and diuretics. those are the only 2 questions I have left...here some recent pics. just because.


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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2012, 09:51:15 AM »

good thing I posted pics. What would you suggest? I'm open for ideas...
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2012, 11:18:23 AM »

I have never used halo so cant comment.

I would agree 1g might be too much for you, I am 5'11 and 231 pounds. I run at 500mg 60% of the year.
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2012, 01:35:22 PM »

True. obviously I have never used a large dose since I don't really know what would be best for someone my size. I just want see if I can step on stage as a big middleweight. I know not to try and put myself in a class and just see when I get there but just gives me a goal. plus I've always had a problem getting bigger after I reach 170lbs.
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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2012, 03:12:37 PM »

To get bigger just up your calories slowly and keep your aas dose the same. 500mg is a lot of drug in most cases. It should carry you to 200 pounds.
You could run 750 for 10-16 weeks and come back down but your call.

More is not always better.

My doctor told me I would have better gains with 2IU pharma GH than with 2g test week. And less sides....But what does he know, hes a doctor hahahaha.
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2012, 03:32:01 PM »

I'll try upping my calories again. I would prefer pharma grade gh and a trt dose. I'll get labs done when I'm a month or 2 into my cycle. go from there...just had recent labs and it came out great. If it comes out horrible I'll rethink everything...until then I'll just run 1-1.25 grams total gear.
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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2012, 03:35:23 PM »

What were your free test levels and E2?

So add 100-200 calories of protein only in your first calorie up. 3-4 days you should see some change.
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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2012, 03:36:18 PM »

I run a gram of gear at 231 pounds and 5 foot 9 bro, its a lot of gear. Let alone 1250mg hehe.

If you dont have too many sides and your levels were right.
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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2012, 04:09:58 PM »

I was trying to find my results but they were thrown away. I remember my doc saying they looked fine. I'll see if they can mail them to me again. I know its a big dose but... I've come to the conclusion that Ill run half of my said doses in half and go from there. up my dose 50-100mg when gains stop.
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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2012, 08:40:11 AM »

If the doctor said it looks fine and you have fully disclosed to him what your doing, your gear is bunk.

Every time I get blood my doctor calls me personaly, whining about E2 levels or free test levels.

On 750mg week my free test was 107 and estrogen was 700 (no arimidex at this time)
He called me because of the estrogen, not the free test.

Normal for a man is under 200 on E2 and around 10-30 (I think) on test.
So im 10x more than normal hehe.

Always book an appointment with the doctor after your blood work and take your iphone with you and record or take a picture of your results.
I write mine in the little black book.

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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2012, 11:15:01 AM »

He knew what I was doing. I take nolvadex, caber, and arimadex throughout my cycle. so maybe that's why my E2 was fine. As for free test he didn't question it.
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