how many years of what steroids does this physique require?

[Onetimehard]

LOL, I have seen someone on test, deca and anadrol year round for two years and gain 10 lbs of muscle.

I have also seen a guy first time do juice and gain 25lb on 1 bottle of test. It is all about genetics and the way you respond to hormones,

Now put 100 random guys on as much juice as humanly possible 6+grams per week and a lot of gh 20-30iu per day and only 5 of those men will end up this guys same size and conditioning. And only one of those 5 will end up with the same caliber of shape to his muscles.

Now take 25% of the drugs out and you would get the same results with 1 out of a thousand, take another 25% off and would get the same results with 1 out of a million, but even Ronnie Coleman genetic would require one to mega dose to look like this..

Ya I know reality sucks right?

[anabolichalo]

LOL, I have seen someone on test, deca and anadrol year round for two years and gain 10 lbs of muscle.

I have also seen a guy first time do juice and gain 25lb on 1 bottle of test. It is all about genetics and the way you respond to hormones,

Now put 100 random guys on as much juice as humanly possible 6+grams per week and a lot of gh 20-30iu per day and only 5 of those men will end up this guys same size and conditioning. And only one of those 5 will end up with the same caliber of shape to his muscles.

Now take 25% of the drugs out and you would get the same results with 1 out of a thousand, take another 25% off and would get the same results with 1 out of a million, but even Ronnie Coleman genetic would require one to mega dose to look like this..

Ya I know reality sucks right?

yes but what about bunk gear

also is it true that the truest twinks are the best responders

and the sort of built guys dont respo,nd at all

[Onetimehard]

yes but what about bunk gear

also is it true that the truest twinks are the best responders

and the sort of built guys dont respo,nd at all

Nope both the guys took the same gear.

Twinks are not the best reponder but if your lean and your gains are lean it is ten times more impressive. A net gain on a twink of 25lb is way impressive then a net gain of 50lb on a fat guy. The twink would look like he gained more.

[anabolichalo]

Nope both the guys took the same gear.

Twinks are not the best reponder but if your lean and your gains are lean it is ten times more impressive. A net gain on a twink of 25lb is way impressive then a net gain of 50lb on a fat guy. The twink would look like he gained more.

so it's the ultimate gamble

to start juice

can be great

can be laughable

[Raymondo]

so it's the ultimate gamble

to start juice

can be great

can be laughable

It won't be a gamble with you, you're quite laughable as it is, steroids will only enhance it

[uberman]

LOL, I have seen someone on test, deca and anadrol year round for two years and gain 10 lbs of muscle.

I have also seen a guy first time do juice and gain 25lb on 1 bottle of test. It is all about genetics and the way you respond to hormones,

AND the way you eat , AND the way you train... Basically the more dedicated to eating perfectly, train perfectly, inject perfectly you are the better the results...as for everything. Remove the injecting part, and you can look very good and healthy the natural way.

[njflex]

AND the way you eat , the way you train... Basically the more dedicated to eating perfectly, train perfectly, inject perfectly, the better the results...as for everything.

ahh uberman quite a post more positive minus venom...

[anabolichalo]

It won't be a gamble with you, you're quite laughable as it is, steroids will only enhance it

ok then i go straight for the syntlol

[Raymondo]

ok then i go straight for the syntlol

fucks sake, give yourself a break dude, what's with the self-flagellation

[anabolichalo]

fucks sake, give yourself a break dude, what's with the self-flagellation

jus depres at what it takes to get muscles

[uberman]

jus depres at what it takes to get muscles

you fucking loser just have to lift 4 to 6 hours a week knowing what you re doing for months, then years until the routine is embeded in your daily life/habits, not even caring much about nutrition if you an ecto/meso, and you can get a very respectable build for a natural. I guess you re a fat endo?

[anabolichalo]

you fucking loser just have to lift 4 to 6 hours a week knowing what you re doing for months, then years until the routine is embeded in your daily life/habits, not even caring much about nutrition if you an ecto/meso, and you can get a very respectable build for a natural. I guess you re a fat endo?

i've seen your pics chump you are in no position to be talking this way

[abijahmaniaco]

what can be achieved with only steroids in 2 years  assuming you are already maxed naturlol

you can gain about 40 lbs beyond your natural limit on steroids alone. it shouldn't take more than one year tops though.

[arce1988]

PED

[abijahmaniaco]

you fucking loser just have to lift 4 to 6 hours a week knowing what you re doing for months, then years until the routine is embeded in your daily life/habits, not even caring much about nutrition if you an ecto/meso, and you can get a very respectable build for a natural. I guess you re a fat endo?

translation: i lack dietary discipline, have found a way to justify it, and i want you to disregard diet as well to further validate the lie i tell myself

[tommywishbone]

I still haven't seen the results from this cats blood work. He is simply standing really close to the camera and appears to have eaten a high carbohydrate meal recently. I'm leaning towards natural until otherwise proven wrong.

[Onetimehard]

you fucking loser just have to lift 4 to 6 hours a week knowing what you re doing for months, then years until the routine is embeded in your daily life/habits, not even caring much about nutrition if you an ecto/meso, and you can get a very respectable build for a natural. I guess you re a fat endo?

Not going to bash you bro but if you want to give advice on being natural and shit take it to another thread, to each their own, but the guy wants to know what's up and he is asking a perfectly legit question.

WTF is with people lately they bash people for not doing research before they juice and then the same people bash people for asking questions.

so it's the ultimate gamble

to start juice

can be great

can be laughable

Bro put it this way, what you are asking has a million different answers. 2 years is long time and the range can be 0 all they way to 60lb of pure muscle, of course both 0 and 60lb are unlikely but depending on how you respond to hormone is the strongest variable and of course your discipline, how you eat, train, sleep, and your daily activities will all play a role

[njflex]

all the factors needed to get the build in question to its present condition were in place,,that's right foods for size,diet ,training ,staying'on'consistent,lotta compounds...

[arce1988]

  ALL PED

[Slik]

Who's the natural ?

thats valiant

[anabolichalo]

thanks for the insightful replies frends

[njflex]

nah not bunk gear, i have seen ppl on the best gear out there, on the harshest available compounds on high doses, who havent gained anything.

theres one example at my gym, the guy is on the typical test en, bit tren and 4ius of gh, give or take, for years on and off.

he looks like absolute shit, not even permabulker status, he looks skinnyfat with maybe 10lbs gains over these years.

the problem?

lack of consistency over long times on diet, too much at parties and obviously genetics.

then theres guys who do the same, with the difference they eat whatever comes their way, with a seemingly endless apetite for food, where it borders scaryness, theyget huge within a couple weeks, yeah, with some bloof, but once they clean up diet a bit they get shredded soon.

its a playing together of many factors, some of whom we maybe never heard of, but genetics sums it up best.

its generaly the ones with an x formed body structure who respond well, aka broad shoulders, tiny hips.

now, to this body in the op, this body, lol, what it takes to get there....

first off, that is pro level size and conditioning.

there will have to be elite genetics or such a body wont happen.ever.

if theres very good genetics, it will still take plenty of steroids and readyess to suffer in a diet to get that lean.

idealy years of natural training and learning what to eat, followe by starting to take some juice and further self education about food intake and progessive upping the dosage without going too far.

so yeah, an overall process of something like minimum 5 years, given very good genetics.

if someone thinks this is achievable in less than that for someone who hasnt ever touched a weight, he will find himself disapoionted about the results.

good post/read and pretty much is all u need to follow,,,

[Mr Anabolic]

ronnie coleman did a lot of bouncy wild shit

i shall try this

YEAH BUDDY!!!

[Jovo]

Great post by geleniko

OP in your case, if you are the type of guy asking this question on an internet forum then you will never look like that

[hazbin]

I still haven't seen the results from this cats blood work. He is simply standing really close to the camera and appears to have eaten a high carbohydrate meal recently. I'm leaning towards natural until otherwise proven wrong.

lol.   Tommy, did you hang around Grymko and Ed Corney when they were eating bottles of desiccated liver tablets?