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What's changed since the 90's early 2000's? Quality of AAS/GH? Quality of competitors? Lazy training? Let's face it, bodybuilding has lost alot of credibility since I first started following it. The physiques just don't flow at all
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« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2012, 11:39:21 AM » |
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It's pretty fair to say no one who won their class at nationals would even place top 5 at the world amateurs.
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« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2012, 11:41:33 AM » |
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It could be all of those. One thing is for sure, "somebody" has chosen dilution (quantity over quality) due to greed. More pro cards awarded means more entrants, more entrants means more money in "someone's" pockets.
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« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2012, 11:41:42 AM » |
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Maybe the best athletes have decided to play other sports.
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« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2012, 11:49:02 AM » |
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Maybe the best athletes have decided to play other sports.
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« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2012, 11:53:40 AM » |
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I don't see any difference.
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« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2012, 11:55:02 AM » |
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gh15 has cornered the steroid market is the problem
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« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2012, 11:55:14 AM » |
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I don't see any difference.
except there was a squat rack at the gym Shawn trained at. |
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« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2012, 12:48:02 PM » |
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Not a lot of human grade gear being used these days.
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« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2012, 01:11:55 PM » |
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It's pretty fair to say no one who won their class at nationals would even place top 5 at the world amateurs.
Speaking of men's World Amateurs, they were yesterday in Ecuador http://musclememory.com/show.php?c=World+Amateur+Championships+-+IFBB&y=2012From the USA, Jeff Beckham took 11th in the super heavies, James Shumpert took 12th in the bantamweight, and Mark Domme, Steve Scutti and Dustin DeMercurio did not place in their classes. the overall winner was Salaheddin Abufanas  |
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« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2012, 04:08:23 PM » |
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The best BB in the show was the Hw winner Justin Compton. His back double bicep shot is unreal. He should be the overall winner.
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« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2012, 04:12:37 PM » |
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The best BB in the show was the Hw winner Justin Compton. His back double bicep shot is unreal. He should be the overall winner.
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« Reply #37 on: November 11, 2012, 05:27:03 PM » |
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i couldn't even place top 5 in the Canadian nationals twenty years ago looking like this.
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« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2012, 05:33:43 PM » |
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It was much harder to turn pro in the 80's and 90's than today. Shit top 2 in each class got a pro card.
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« Reply #39 on: November 11, 2012, 06:16:18 PM » |
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It could be all of those. One thing is for sure, "somebody" has chosen dilution (quantity over quality) due to greed. More pro cards awarded means more entrants, more entrants means more money in "someone's" pockets.
finally some truth on these boards more $ in Manion's pockets |
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« Reply #40 on: November 11, 2012, 06:34:44 PM » |
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 Good Lord..he is a pro??  Good luck battling Grigori Atoyan for no placings in 2013 Perfect match-up. Well done. |
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« Reply #41 on: November 11, 2012, 07:53:20 PM » |
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Crazy the competition was like this 21 years ago And now the guy in the op is on the same list as guys like Levrone |
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« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2012, 12:00:26 AM » |
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I don't see any difference.
You can't be serious in comparing that guy to when Shawn Ray got his Pro card... |
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« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2012, 04:43:25 PM » |
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Brian was one of the best on the stage that evening. But yes, nothing like when Shawn Ray and others won their pro cards.
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« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2012, 05:19:35 PM » |
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You can't be serious in comparing that guy to when Shawn Ray got his Pro card...
from that pic at fricking 21!!!!s ray was insane,,and had to scale back leg training he had trunks there ...phil hill lost overall to him that's nuts... |
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« Reply #45 on: November 12, 2012, 05:38:44 PM » |
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What's changed since the 90's early 2000's? Quality of AAS/GH? Quality of competitors? Lazy training? Let's face it, bodybuilding has lost alot of credibility since I first started following it. The physiques just don't flow at all
People wanted (younger kids) to be a bodybuilder....wayyy more genetic/talent pool to draw from(bodybuilding was insanely popular in the 80's/90's) ....Arnold/everyone wanted to look like he did in "predator, commando" etc .... now lol all the young kids want is abs (ala "Mike the situation" on jersey shore/or to be a MMA fighter") so what is left ain't so pretty (no diss on yerskey or whatever his name is/but he ain't no levrone/or flex wheeler) not even getting into all the "shows" on tv ("american muscle magazine/lee haneys animal kindom/coverage of the nationals by espn/mr olympia broadcast/corey everson/valente(rick?)....it was crazy bodybuilding was everywhere) |
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« Reply #46 on: November 12, 2012, 05:47:23 PM » |
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Brian was one of the best on the stage that evening. But yes, nothing like when Shawn Ray and others won their pro cards.
Worst National show line up and winner...EVER! |
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« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2012, 05:56:47 PM » |
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Crazy the competition was like this 21 years ago And now the guy in the op is on the same list as guys like Levrone Paul Demayo beat Kevin at the Jr. Nationals that year and was 1 of the favorites coming in to that show and was definitely expecting to take the show, also won the best poser award and when they called him in 3rd he threw up his hand as if he was victorious and smiled away, that is what I call class, man people nowadays cry at their placings. |
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« Reply #48 on: November 12, 2012, 06:07:59 PM » |
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These guys couldn't get a pro card  |
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« Reply #49 on: November 12, 2012, 06:14:04 PM » |
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These guys couldn't get a pro card fucking crazy ain't it?!?!? ... all 3 woulda been great pros |
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