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Re: Benghazi Scandal Thread
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2012, 10:32:40 AM »
Intel officials unable to say who changed CIA talking points on Libya, lawmaker says

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Former CIA Director David Petraeus stoked the controversy over the Obama administration's handling of the Libya terror attack, testifying that references to "Al Qaeda involvement" were stripped from his agency's original talking points -- while other intelligence officials were unable to say who changed the memo, according to a top lawmaker who was briefed.
 
Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., told Fox News that intelligence officials who testified in a closed-door hearing a day earlier said they did not know who changed the talking points. He said they went out to multiple departments, including the State Department, National Security Council, Justice Department and White House.
 
"I'd say it was somebody in the administration had to have taken it out," King told Fox News. "That to me, has to be pursued."
 
Watch the full interview with King on Fox News at 2:30 p.m. ET.
 
Petraeus left Capitol Hill around noon, after testifying in private hearings before the House and Senate intelligence committees.
 
In his wake, Republicans and Democrats battled over whether his testimony should raise more suspicions about the administration's handling of the attack.
 
King and other Republicans indicated they still have plenty of questions about the aftermath of the strike.
 
"No one knows yet exactly who came up with the final version of the talking points," he said.
 
Petraeus' testimony both challenges the Obama administration's repeated claims that the attack was a "spontaneous" protest over an anti-Islam video, and according to King conflicts with his own briefing to lawmakers on Sept. 14. Sources have said Petraeus, in that briefing, also described the attack as a protest that spun out of control.
 
"His testimony today was that from the start, he had told us that this was a terrorist attack," King said, adding that he told Petraeus he had a "different recollection."
 
Still, the claim that the CIA's original talking points were changed is sure to stoke controversy on the Hill.
 
"The original talking points were much more specific about Al Qaeda involvement. And yet the final ones just said indications of extremists," King said, adding that the final version was the product of a vague "inter-agency process."
 
Further, King said a CIA analyst specifically told lawmakers that the Al Qaeda affiliates line "was taken out."
 
Lawmakers are focusing on the talking points issue because of concern over the account U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice gave on five Sunday shows on Sept. 16, when she repeatedly claimed the attack was spontaneous -- Rice's defenders have since insisted she was merely basing her statements on the intelligence at the time.
 
The suggestion that the intelligence was altered raised questions about who altered it, with King asking if "the White House changed the talking points."
 
One source told Fox News that Petraeus "has no idea what was provided" to Rice or who was the author of the talking points she used.
 
"He had no idea she was going on talk shows" until the White House announced it one or two days before, the source said.
 
While Petraeus resigned last Friday over an extra-marital affair, his testimony Friday was expected to focus on Libya as opposed to personal matters. King said it barely came up, and only when Petraeus was asked if the affair and investigation had any impact on his testimony on Libya. "He said no," King said.
 
The pressure was on Petraeus to set the record straight, after other top intelligence officials struggled a day earlier to explain why their initial talking points after the Libya attack minimized the role of militant groups.
 
Lawmakers on the House and Senate intelligence committees heard testimony Thursday in private meetings with Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and Acting CIA Director Mike Morell. But Fox News was told there were heated exchanges on the House side, particularly over the talking points that administration officials relied on in the days after the Sept. 11 strike.
 
Fox News was told that neither Clapper nor Morell knew for sure who finalized that information. And they could not explain why they minimized the role of a regional Al Qaeda branch as well as the militant Ansar al-Sharia despite evidence of their involvement.
 
Further, Fox News was told Morell was pushed to explain why, during a Sept. 14 briefing, Petraeus seemed wedded to the explanation that the attack was in response to an anti-Islam video. Morell apparently said he wasn't at that briefing and had nothing further to add.
 
Lawmakers continue to express concerns on several fronts -- on whether warnings in the months preceding Sept. 11 were ignored, and on why the administration first insisted the attack was a "spontaneous" act.
 
Rice has been the focal point of that criticism. Obama, though, in his first post-election press conference Wednesday, called the criticism "outrageous" and told those lawmakers to "go after me" instead.
 
California Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff also came to Rice's defense Thursday, saying after the House intelligence committee hearing that Rice was given the intelligence community's "best assessment" at the time.
 
"Those who have suggested that Ambassador Rice was politicizing the intelligence or misrepresenting what the intelligence community was putting forward as its best assessment are either unfamiliar with the facts, or willfully disregarding them," he said.
 
Fox News' Catherine Herridge contributed to this report.


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Re: Benghazi Scandal Thread
« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2012, 10:34:37 AM »
Former CIA Director David Petraeus stoked the controversy over the Obama administration's handling of the Libya terror attack, testifying that references to "Al Qaeda involvement" were stripped from his agency's original talking points -- while other intelligence officials were unable to say who changed the memo, according to a top lawmaker who was briefed.
 
Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., told Fox News that intelligence officials who testified in a closed-door hearing a day earlier said they did not know who changed the talking points. He said they went out to multiple departments, including the State Department, National Security Council, Justice Department and White House.

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Re: Benghazi Scandal Thread
« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2012, 10:50:10 AM »
http://www.politicususa.com/republican-desperation-grows-benghazi-backfires-scandal-talk-fizzles.html

You fucking morons eating this shit up, lololol. It is yet another failed attempt by the lying GOP. too bad this will fizzle like I predicted and you morons will have to go back to making up more shit.

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Re: Benghazi Scandal Thread
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2012, 06:37:29 PM »
Intel officials unable to say who changed CIA talking points on Libya, lawmaker says
 

Published November 16, 2012
 
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Former CIA Director David Petraeus stoked the controversy over the Obama administration's handling of the Libya terror attack, testifying Friday that references to "Al Qaeda involvement" were stripped from his agency's original talking points -- while other intelligence officials were unable to say who changed the memo, according to a top lawmaker who was briefed.
 
Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., told Fox News that intelligence officials who testified in a closed-door hearing a day earlier, including Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and Acting CIA Director Mike Morell, said they did not know who changed the talking points. He said they went out to multiple departments, including the State Department, National Security Council, Justice Department and White House.
 
"To me the question right now is who changed those talking points and why. ... I'd say it was somebody in the administration had to have taken it out," King told Fox News. "That, to me, has to be pursued."
 
Petraeus left Capitol Hill around noon, after testifying in private hearings before the House and Senate intelligence committees. In his wake, Republicans and Democrats battled over whether his testimony should raise more suspicions about the administration's handling of the attack.
 
King and other Republicans indicated they still have plenty of questions about the aftermath of the strike.
 
"No one knows yet exactly who came up with the final version of the talking points," he said.
 
Petraeus' testimony both challenges the Obama administration's repeated claims that the attack was a "spontaneous" protest over an anti-Islam video, and according to King conflicts with his own briefing to lawmakers on Sept. 14. Sources have said Petraeus, in that briefing, also described the attack as a protest that spun out of control.
 
"His testimony today was that from the start, he had told us that this was a terrorist attack," King said, adding that he told Petraeus he had a "different recollection."
 
Still, the claim that the CIA's original talking points were changed is sure to stoke controversy on the Hill.
 
"The original talking points were much more specific about Al Qaeda involvement. And yet the final ones just said indications of extremists," King said, adding that the final version was the product of a vague "inter-agency process."
 
King said a CIA analyst specifically told lawmakers that the Al Qaeda affiliates line "was taken out."
 
A congressional source familiar with this week's testimony also told Fox News that the language in the CIA talking points about Benghazi was changed from "Al Qaeda-affiliated individuals to extremist organizations" -- which had the effect of minimizing the role of terrorists in the attack.
 
"It really changed the whole tone of it," King told Fox News.
 
Democrats, though, suggested Republicans were taking the whole issue out of context.
 
Rep. Adam Smith, D-Wash., said claims the talking points were changed are "completely wrong." Besides, he said, the affiliation of Ansar al-Sharia, the militant group suspected in the attack, to Al Qaeda is still being examined.
 
Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., said the discrepancy can be attributed to the classified talking points that some saw versus the unclassified version that others, like U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice, used.
 
Lawmakers are focusing on the talking points in the first place because of concern over the account Rice gave on five Sunday shows on Sept. 16, when she repeatedly claimed the attack was spontaneous -- Rice's defenders have since insisted she was merely basing her statements on the intelligence at the time.
 
But a source said Rice had access to both classified and unclassified information on Benghazi. King said the administration has "hidden behind" the claim that Rice was only using the intelligence community's best assessment. But he said Petraeus' testimony suggests their best assessment conflicted with what Rice said on Sept. 16.
 
One source told Fox News that Petraeus "has no idea what was provided" to Rice or who was the author of the talking points she used.
 
"He had no idea she was going on talk shows" until the White House announced it one or two days before, the source said.
 
Obama in his first post-election press conference Wednesday, called the criticism against Rice "outrageous" and told those lawmakers to "go after me" instead.
 
California Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff also came to Rice's defense Thursday, saying after a House intelligence committee hearing that Rice was given the intelligence community's "best assessment" at the time.
 
"Those who have suggested that Ambassador Rice was politicizing the intelligence or misrepresenting what the intelligence community was putting forward as its best assessment are either unfamiliar with the facts, or willfully disregarding them," he said.
 
Fox News' Catherine Herridge contributed to this report.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/16/petraeus-to-testify-knew-libya-was-terrorism-from-start-source-says/#ixzz2CRZ8u6B9


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Re: Benghazi Scandal Thread
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2012, 09:28:03 PM »
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No Shots Fired: State Dept Benghazi Security Force Unarmed
Big Peace ^ | Monday, December 10, 2012 | Kerry Picket
Posted on December 10, 2012 10:11:49 PM EST by kristinn

A source with personal knowledge of the security situation in Benghazi told Breitbart News that Senators who listened to closed door testimony about the Benghazi attack were shocked to learn State Department security personnel agents were not immediately armed.

Additionally, agents separated from Ambassador Chris Stevens left to retrieve their M4 weapons in a separate building. Only one returned to protect the Ambassador, while the other two hunkered down in the barracks, the source relayed.

“From the accounts I read, those guys were not ready. When the attack came that night, they had to go back to the other room and grab their weapons. Then the worse part about it was they never even returned to be with the Ambassador. One returned to be with the Ambassador with his rifle. The other two went back to where there were [sic] barracks. And two stayed in that same building where there were radios and other weapons and the safe and other stuff was there.

There were no shots fired in return. On the embassy property, just the embassy property, none of those security agents blasted a single bullet from a single pistol or rifle at all in defense of the Ambassador—nothing.”

Questions as to why the consulate security force was unarmed within the confines of the consulate will likely be asked of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. She will be appearing in front of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs according to Chairwoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL).

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Re: Benghazi Scandal Thread
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2012, 06:35:17 AM »
Jesus just stop, you were wrong again as I predicted. You and your merry group of liars were absolutely wrong on the election, you yourself calling for a landslide, when in fact it was a landslide the other way. Then you call Obama a murderer saying he watched them get killed, that they covered it up and when the facts come out you are dead wrong again. What does it feel like to be ruled by ignorance and fear?

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Re: Benghazi Scandal Thread
« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2012, 06:40:46 AM »
Jesus just stop, you were wrong again as I predicted. You and your merry group of liars were absolutely wrong on the election, you yourself calling for a landslide, when in fact it was a landslide the other way. Then you call Obama a murderer saying he watched them get killed, that they covered it up and when the facts come out you are dead wrong again. What does it feel like to be ruled by ignorance and fear?


fox news informed  :D :D :D :D oh and don't forget rush and hannity :D

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Re: Benghazi Scandal Thread
« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2012, 08:28:27 AM »
http://www.politicususa.com/republican-desperation-grows-benghazi-backfires-scandal-talk-fizzles.html

You fucking morons eating this shit up, lololol. It is yet another failed attempt by the lying GOP. too bad this will fizzle like I predicted and you morons will have to go back to making up more shit.

God, you're an idiot..


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