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« Reply #50 on: November 21, 2012, 07:42:12 AM »

You really believe that?

Absolutely!  Have you heard one democrat elected to office - EVEN ONE -ever even express one ounce of concern at the doubling of food stamp usage or the exponential growth of welfare? 

Dependency = Votes for the Democrats. 
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« Reply #51 on: November 21, 2012, 07:48:33 AM »

You really believe that?

Let's see:

- Poverty as near-record highs.

- Food stamp usage, up to nearly 50 million from 32 million

- Unemployment benefits, being given indefinitely, basically paying people to not work

- Encouraging illegal aliens to come over and putting them on the government dole.

- Blatant destruction of the nuclear family, encouraging more single motherhood, which leads to the aforementioned poverty and food stamp usage.

- ObamaCare

- Encouraging a mentality that people are entitled to other people's money.

That sounds like a welfare state to me.

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« Reply #52 on: November 21, 2012, 07:50:56 AM »

Turning this country into a neo-socialist welfare state, like those falling to pieces in Europe.

The US has a debt larger than all of Europe combined so i dont understand your logic, care to explain?
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« Reply #53 on: November 21, 2012, 07:52:58 AM »

Absolutely!  Have you heard one democrat elected to office - EVEN ONE -ever even express one ounce of concern at the doubling of food stamp usage or the exponential growth of welfare? 

Dependency = Votes for the Democrats. 

Thats because dem states doesnt carry the growth of welfare or food stamps.
Thats the red states.
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« Reply #54 on: November 21, 2012, 08:01:05 AM »

Let's see:

- Poverty as near-record highs.

- Food stamp usage, up to nearly 50 million from 32 million

- Unemployment benefits, being given indefinitely, basically paying people to not work

- Encouraging illegal aliens to come over and putting them on the government dole.

- Blatant destruction of the nuclear family, encouraging more single motherhood, which leads to the aforementioned poverty and food stamp usage.

- ObamaCare

- Encouraging a mentality that people are entitled to other people's money.

That sounds like a welfare state to me.



So do you think prominent democrats sit in a rooms talking about how they can create this welfare state?

How does our current state compare to the definition of a welfare state?
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« Reply #55 on: November 21, 2012, 08:14:12 AM »

Let's see:

- Poverty as near-record highs.

- Food stamp usage, up to nearly 50 million from 32 million

- Unemployment benefits, being given indefinitely, basically paying people to not work

- Encouraging illegal aliens to come over and putting them on the government dole.

- Blatant destruction of the nuclear family, encouraging more single motherhood, which leads to the aforementioned poverty and food stamp usage.

- ObamaCare

- Encouraging a mentality that people are entitled to other people's money.

That sounds like a welfare state to me.



None of these things occur overnight and certainly didn't happen in the last four years.  In the last 32 years we have had three Republican and two Democrats Presidents of the United States.  Republicans have been in collectively for 20 years and Democrats for 12.  The Republicans have the longest stretch of controlling the Presidency with twelve years.  The Democrats have had eight, roughly four of which were under a Republican controlled Congress.  Who's to blame for the current culture?  I'm not taking a side but clearly the Democrats aren't solely responsible for the problems.
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« Reply #56 on: November 21, 2012, 08:29:30 AM »

None of these things occur overnight and certainly didn't happen in the last four years.  In the last 32 years we have had three Republican and two Democrats Presidents of the United States.  Republicans have been in collectively for 20 years and Democrats for 12.  The Republicans have the longest stretch of controlling the Presidency with twelve years.  The Democrats have had eight, roughly four of which were under a Republican controlled Congress.  Who's to blame for the current culture?  I'm not taking a side but clearly the Democrats aren't solely responsible for the problems.

Agreed, to a point.

The Dems' criticism about the Republicans' policies is that it leaves people to fend for themselves. But, that's how this country became great: People with the drive to do for self.

What the Democrats are promoting is indefinite government dependence, which is reflected in their policies.
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« Reply #57 on: November 21, 2012, 08:35:56 AM »

Agreed, to a point.

The Dems' criticism about the Republicans' policies is that it leaves people to fend for themselves. But, that's how this country became great: People with the drive to do for self.

What the Democrats are promoting is indefinite government dependence, which is reflected in their policies.

Do you want to ban food stamps?
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« Reply #58 on: November 21, 2012, 08:37:49 AM »

Do you want to ban food stamps?

I do - we need to make these people actually do something for the food in return. 

We need food depots where these people get bags of rice, beans, etc, not a credit card to buy pot crack booze and cigs
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« Reply #59 on: November 21, 2012, 08:43:10 AM »

I do - we need to make these people actually do something for the food in return. 

We need food depots where these people get bags of rice, beans, etc, not a credit card to buy pot crack booze and cigs

Can you buy booze and cigs and pot on food stamps? Come on
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« Reply #60 on: November 21, 2012, 08:43:50 AM »

Do you want to ban food stamps?

What is with you and food stamps? OF COURSE NOT!!

It seems you have difficulty with the concept of such being used TEMPORARILY, to help someone get back on his feet.
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« Reply #61 on: November 21, 2012, 08:46:28 AM »

I do - we need to make these people actually do something for the food in return. 

We need food depots where these people get bags of rice, beans, etc, not a credit card to buy pot crack booze and cigs

Exactly!! Back in the day, there were actual food stamps (coupons) and you couldn't buy non-food items with it. $1 food stamps were red; $5 stamps were blue; $10s were yellow.
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« Reply #62 on: November 21, 2012, 08:49:42 AM »

What is with you and food stamps? OF COURSE NOT!!

It seems you have difficulty with the concept of such being used TEMPORARILY, to help someone get back on his feet.

So how long should you be able to recieve food stamps then?
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« Reply #63 on: November 21, 2012, 08:51:02 AM »

So how long should you be able to recieve food stamps then?

I'd say six months, max.
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« Reply #64 on: November 21, 2012, 08:53:09 AM »

I'd say six months, max.

So why does primarily red states not enforce this?

They are controlled by republicans.
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« Reply #65 on: November 21, 2012, 08:54:34 AM »

So why does primarily red states not enforce this?

They are controlled by republicans.

They should....as should the blue states.

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« Reply #66 on: November 21, 2012, 09:02:48 AM »

They should....as should the blue states.



But then your argument about Dem policies putting people on permanent welfare vs the republicans enforcing temporary welfare is BS infact its the other way around.
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« Reply #67 on: November 21, 2012, 06:32:23 PM »

Can you buy booze and cigs and pot on food stamps? Come on

No but you can easily trade t bone steaks for pennies on the dollar to someone willing to buy the booze and cigs. Happens all the time.
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« Reply #68 on: November 21, 2012, 06:33:28 PM »

No but you can easily trade t bone steaks for pennies on the dollar to someone willing to buy the booze and cigs. Happens all the time.
Or sell your food stamps to drug dealers. Used to know people that did that. Sell 500 dollars worth of food stamps for a 1/16th of Meth (which was about 120 bucks at the time).
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« Reply #69 on: November 21, 2012, 08:30:42 PM »

Or sell your food stamps to drug dealers. Used to know people that did that. Sell 500 dollars worth of food stamps for a 1/16th of Meth (which was about 120 bucks at the time).

Yep. Seen it with my own eyes. Take a group of young guys who live together and sling drugs, find a few single moms or whatever on welfare with a drug problem, next thing you know they are eating pretty much whatever they want sold in the supermarket for a quarter of the price.
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« Reply #70 on: November 21, 2012, 08:32:11 PM »

Yep. Seen it with my own eyes. Take a group of young guys who live together and sling drugs, find a few single moms or whatever on welfare with a drug problem, next thing you know they are eating pretty much whatever they want sold in the supermarket for a quarter of the price.

I'm just kidding really, welcome to our humble home buddy.
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« Reply #71 on: November 21, 2012, 09:27:32 PM »

I'm just kidding really, welcome to our humble home buddy.

I ain't scared of shit.
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« Reply #72 on: November 21, 2012, 09:31:58 PM »

I ain't scared of shit.
Challenge accepted.
I bet you're scared of fat, mickey mouse t-shirt wearing, scooter riding, meth whores.

I know I am. You're never quite sure if they're going to rape you or try to run you over with their rascals.
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« Reply #73 on: November 21, 2012, 09:40:12 PM »

Challenge accepted.
I bet you're scared of fat, mickey mouse t-shirt wearing, scooter riding, meth whores.

I know I am. You're never quite sure if they're going to rape you or try to run you over with their rascals.

The only time I see bitches riding rascals is when they are visiting The Grand Canyon on the infomercials...I'd just kick their old asses off the side of the cliff!
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« Reply #74 on: November 22, 2012, 07:00:56 AM »

No but you can easily trade t bone steaks for pennies on the dollar to someone willing to buy the booze and cigs. Happens all the time.
sounds like capitalism/free market enterprise at work.
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