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« on: November 17, 2012, 05:54:02 AM »

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/16/1162424/-Petraeus-Testimony-Makes-McCain-and-Other-Conspiracy-Theorists-Look-Like-Idiots

oh my god they with held info for tactical purposes. There is literally no evidence at all, none. This is too funny.
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2012, 04:26:04 AM »

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/16/1162424/-Petraeus-Testimony-Makes-McCain-and-Other-Conspiracy-Theorists-Look-Like-Idiots

oh my god they with held info for tactical purposes. There is literally no evidence at all, none. This is too funny.

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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2012, 08:14:48 AM »

You just quoted an article from the Daily KOS that cherry picked facts....

nice rebuttal please show me the facts I left out. I'm sure you can find some.
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2012, 08:16:51 AM »

Most of these things are a waste of money. Just like the steroid witch hunts with Clemens.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2012, 08:29:07 AM »

http://www.nationalmemo.com/benghazi-testimony-by-petraeus-shreds-gop-attack-on-rice/#.UKeFrp0Sc_m.reddit

Is Mccain becoming senile?
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2012, 08:51:56 AM »


What do you mean "becoming"?
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2014, 06:51:19 AM »

Libyan militants capture Benghazi’s main army base
Press TV ^  | Wed Jul 30, 2014 | NA

Posted on ‎7‎/‎30‎/‎2014‎ ‎7‎:‎17‎:‎06‎ ‎AM by mgist

Militant groups have seized the headquarters of the Libyan army’s special forces in the volatile city of Benghazi after several days of fighting.

Military officials and the militants made the announcement on Wednesday.

On Tuesday, militants said in a statement that the main military base in the city was captured.

According to military officials and residents, special forces troops had to abandon their main camp in southeastern Benghazi after coming under attack from a coalition of former rebels.

“We have withdrawn from the army base after heavy shelling,” Saiqa Special Forces official Fadel Al-Hassi said.

Medical sources say at least 30 people were in Benghazi during heavy clashes involving warplanes and rockets between the special forces and the militants.

Also on Tuesday, a Libyan fighter jet crashed in Benghazi.

Nearly three years after the fall of longtime dictator Muammar Gaddafi in a popular uprising in October 2011, Libya is still grappling with rising insecurity as the country has been witnessing numerous clashes between government forces and rival militant groups that refuse to lay down arms despite efforts by the central government to impose law and order.
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2014, 07:17:46 AM »

Thing is, even without benghazi this administration still has more scandals and corruption than any in modern times. Its easy to make light of benghazi...not so easy to make light of all the others.
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2015, 01:43:28 PM »

Pentagon Benghazi Documents Expose Administration Lies
Investor's Business Daily ^  | February 24, 2015 | IBD EDITORIALS

Posted on ‎2‎/‎24‎/‎2015‎ ‎1‎:‎27‎:‎36‎ ‎PM by raptor22

candal: Heavily redacted documents show a military response had been drafted in answer to the Benghazi terrorist attack by a group supporting "an Islamic state" in Libya. It also showed the attack wasn't inflamed by a video.

It's taken Judicial Watch two years to obtain from the most transparent administration in history the 486 pages of documents pertaining to the military response to the Sept. 11, 2012, terrorist attack on our Benghazi diplomatic mission. They confirm what we have said repeatedly, that the Benghazi tale spun by President Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was indeed a lie agreed upon.

Despite heavy redaction, they show that the real "JV team" — a term applied by Obama to the deadly Islamic State — resides in the White House. The papers reveal, for instance, that at one point the military relied on a photo from a Twitter post to determine the status of Ambassador Christopher Stevens, who was killed with Foreign Service Information Management Officer Sean Smith in the first of two attacks.

Several hours later — hours during which a rescue or support attempt arguably could have been made — terrorists killed CIA contractors and former Navy SEALs Ty Woods and Glen Doherty.


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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2015, 03:29:53 PM »

 Cry


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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2015, 03:43:20 PM »

Thing is, even without benghazi this administration still has more scandals and corruption than any in modern times. Its easy to make light of benghazi...not so easy to make light of all the others.

LOL

not even close

Maybe you're thinking about Reagan.  By the end of his second term 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations.

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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2015, 03:56:16 PM »

LOL

not even close

Maybe you're thinking about Reagan.  By the end of his second term 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations.



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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2015, 04:03:57 PM »

LOL

not even close

Maybe you're thinking about Reagan.  By the end of his second term 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations.



But... but... but.... it's still about OBAMA.  So that cancels everything else out.  Including reality.
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2015, 04:05:51 PM »

LOL

not even close

Maybe you're thinking about Reagan.  By the end of his second term 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations.



Jesus. Just stfu already. Why do come on here and continuously make an ass of yourself. Why?
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2015, 04:12:10 PM »

Jesus. Just stfu already. Why do come on here and continuously make an ass of yourself. Why?

feel free to refute any of what I wrote

please do so if you can

btw - truly LOL about the "making an ass comment"

are you just trying to be ironic or  do you not even have a clue how funny that is?
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« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2015, 05:56:24 PM »

i dont get why repubs said obama was not to blame.

I don't want to accuse them of bribes, but I think it's clearly time to accuse them of bribes.
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« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2015, 05:58:09 PM »

i dont get why repubs said obama was not to blame.

I don't want to accuse them of bribes, but I think it's clearly time to accuse them of bribes.

According to libfags imam obama is credited w getting bin laden but not to blame for this fiasco
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« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2015, 06:06:44 PM »

According to libfags imam obama is credited w getting bin laden but not to blame for this fiasco

yes, obama does get credit for giving the order to proceed with mission into pakistan to get OBL, sorry 33, he does.  The last 2 prez knew where to get him - yes, tora bora - and didn't have the balls to pull trigger on such a mission.  Sorry, you can't argue that, Obama gave the order.

Now, for benghazi, I blamed obama before anyone else on getbig except maybe you.  Immediatley, I said he didn't want 200 dead bad guys, 2 months before election.   Immediately, I called for impeachment for purposeful inaction resulting in loss of brave american lives.  And immediately, fucking liberals decided politics was more important than justice, and passed up chance to impeach.  They can blow me if they ever complain about obama - they endorse his deeds every day by not impeaching when there IS legitimate cause to do so. 
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« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2015, 06:47:26 PM »

yes, obama does get credit for giving the order to proceed with mission into pakistan to get OBL, sorry 33, he does.  The last 2 prez knew where to get him - yes, tora bora - and didn't have the balls to pull trigger on such a mission.  Sorry, you can't argue that, Obama gave the order.

Now, for benghazi, I blamed obama before anyone else on getbig except maybe you.  Immediatley, I said he didn't want 200 dead bad guys, 2 months before election.   Immediately, I called for impeachment for purposeful inaction resulting in loss of brave american lives.  And immediately, fucking liberals decided politics was more important than justice, and passed up chance to impeach.  They can blow me if they ever complain about obama - they endorse his deeds every day by not impeaching when there IS legitimate cause to do so. 

why do you troll so much?

boredom?

just wondering
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« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2015, 07:06:30 PM »

why do you troll so much?

boredom?

just wondering

that attack lasted for what, 7 hours?  8 hours?

I'm 100% certain they radio'd it in, and *something* along the way determined it wasn't a good idea to send the help, which was stationed 1 hour away.

now... it's a HUGE call to let a "consulate" get trashed, so whatever was going on there must have been, well, nothing we wanted all over the place... wasting 200 bad guys to protect it.  So, *someone* along the leadership chain made that decision.    If not obama, who?   What is the ceiling on that? 
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« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2015, 07:29:52 PM »

that attack lasted for what, 7 hours?  8 hours?

I'm 100% certain they radio'd it in, and *something* along the way determined it wasn't a good idea to send the help, which was stationed 1 hour away.

now... it's a HUGE call to let a "consulate" get trashed, so whatever was going on there must have been, well, nothing we wanted all over the place... wasting 200 bad guys to protect it.  So, *someone* along the leadership chain made that decision.    If not obama, who?   What is the ceiling on that?  

I wonder why none of the numerous investigations addressed any of those questions or did they?

have not they all been discussed hundreds of times here ad nauseum

so are you trolling?

how about your other recent post about the number of Obama's veto's

was that trolling or are you going to claim have not actually known the answer to that ?
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« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2015, 08:13:24 PM »

I'm refuting anything because it really doesn't matter. But refute this. Welcome to 2015...



Obama is at Two Dozen Scandals and Counting
Posted on August 1, 2013, 9:25 am by Keith Koffler • 272 Comments
President Obama claims that Republicans are busy probing “phony scandals.” But the sheer number of scandals suggests that misbehavior, abuse of power, and possibly corruption are not something being dreamed up by the GOP, but a defining characteristic of the Obama administration.

Here is a full list of the administration’s most egregious scandals. The ones we know about, at least. I’ve added four since the last time we ran the list – an increase of 20 percent!

1. IRS targets Obama’s enemies: The IRS targeted conservative and pro-Israel groups prior to the 2012 election. Questions are being raised about why this occurred, who ordered it, whether there was any White House involvement and whether there was an initial effort to hide who knew about the targeting and when.

2. Benghazi: This is actually three scandals in one:

The failure of administration to protect the Benghazi mission.
The changes made to the talking points in order to suggest the attack was motivated by an anti-Muslim video
The refusal of the White House to say what President Obama did the night of the attack
3. Watching the AP: The Justice Department performed a massive cull of Associated Press reporters’ phone records as part of a leak investigation.

4. Rosengate: The Justice Department suggested that Fox News reporter James Rosen is a criminal for reporting about classified information and subsequently monitored his phones and emails.

5. Potential Holder perjury I: Attorney General Eric Holder told Congress he had never been associated with “potential prosecution” of a journalist for perjury when in fact he signed the affidavit that termed Rosen a potential criminal.

6. The ATF “Fast and Furious” scheme: Allowed weapons from the U.S. to “walk” across the border into the hands of Mexican drug dealers. The ATF lost track of hundreds of firearms, many of which were used in crimes, including the December 2010 killing of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.

7. Potential Holder Perjury II: Holder told Congress in May 2011 that he had just recently heard about the Fast and Furious gun walking scheme when there is evidence he may have known much earlier.

8. Sebelius demands payment: HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius solicited donations from companies HHS might regulate. The money would be used to help her sign up uninsured Americans for ObamaCare.

9. The Pigford scandal: An Agriculture Department effort that started as an attempt to compensate black farmers who had been discriminated against by the agency but evolved into a gravy train delivering several billion dollars in cash to thousands of additional minority and female farmers who probably didn’t face discrimination.

10. GSA gone wild: The General Services Administration in 2010 held an $823,000 training conference in Las Vegas, featuring a clown and a mind readers. Resulted in the resignation of the GSA administrator.

11. Veterans Affairs in Disney World: The agency wasted more than $6 million on two conferences in Orlando. An assistant secretary was fired.

12. Sebelius violates the Hatch Act: A U.S. special counsel determined that Sebelius violated the Hatch Act when she made “extemporaneous partisan remarks” during a speech in her official capacity last year. During the remarks, Sebelius called for the election of the Democratic candidate for governor of North Carolina.

13. Solyndra: Republicans charged the Obama administration funded and promoted its poster boy for green energy despite warning signs the company was headed for bankruptcy. The administration also allegedly pressed Solyndra to delay layoff announcements until after the 2010 midterm elections.

14. AKA Lisa Jackson: Former EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson used the name “Richard Windsor” when corresponding by email with other government officials, drawing charges she was trying to evade scrutiny.

15. The New Black Panthers: The Justice Department was accused of using a racial double standard in failing to pursue a voter intimidation case against Black Panthers who appeared to be menacing voters at a polling place in 2008 in Philadelphia.

16. Waging war all by myself: Obama may have violated the Constitution and both the letter and the spirit of the War Powers Resolution by attacking Libya without Congressional approval.

17. Biden bullies the press: Vice President Biden’s office has repeatedly interfered with coverage, including forcing a reporter to wait in a closet, making a reporter delete photos, and editing pool reports.

18. AKPD not A-OK: The administration paid millions to the former firm of then-White House adviser David Axelrod, AKPD Message and Media, to promote passage of Obamacare. Some questioned whether the firm was hired to help pay Axelrod $2 million AKPD owed him.

19. Sestak, we’ll take care of you: Former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel used Bill Clinton as an intermediary to probe whether former Rep. Joe Sestak (D-Pa.) would accept a prominent, unpaid White House advisory position in exchange for dropping out of the 2010 primary against former Sen. Arlen Specter (D-Pa.).

20. I’ll pass my own laws: Obama has repeatedly been accused of making end runs around Congress by deciding which laws to enforce, including the decision not to deport illegal immigrants who may have been allowed to stay in the United States had Congress passed the “Dream Act.”

21. The hacking of Sharyl Attkisson’s computer: It’s not clear who hacked the CBS reporter’s computer as she investigated the Benghazi scandal, but the Obama administration and its allies had both the motive and the means to do it.

22. An American Political Prisoner: The sudden decision to arrest Nakoula Basseley Nakoula on unrelated charges after protests in the Arab world over his anti-Muslim video is an extraordinarily suspicious coincidence. “We’re going to go out and we’re going to prosecute the person that made that video,” Hillary Clinton allegedly told the father of one of the ex-SEALs killed in Banghazi.

23. Get rid of inconvenient IGs: Corporation for National and Community Service Inspector General Gerald Walpin was fired in 2009 as he fought wasteful spending and investigated a friend of Obama’s, Sacramento Mayor and former NBA player Kevin Johnson. The White House says Walpin was incompetent.

24. Influence peddling: An investigation is underway of Alejandro Mayorkas, director of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, who has been nominated by Obama for the number two post at the Department of Homeland Security. Mayorkas may have used his position to unfairly obtain U.S. visas for foreign investors in company run by Hillary Clinton’s brother, Anthony Rodham.

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2013/08/01/obama-dozen-scandals-counting/
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« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2015, 08:45:29 PM »

I wonder why none of the numerous investigations addressed any of those questions or did they?
have not they all been discussed hundreds of times here ad nauseum
so are you trolling?
how about your other recent post about the number of Obama's veto's
was that trolling or are you going to claim have not actually known the answer to that ?

Yes, I was trolling on the vetoes.  He's had what, 3?  lol   reagan and bush were in the dozens.  but i get it, he was shielded by a dem senate who killed anything before they got it to him, so the # is skewed. 

Yes, I absolutely believe the info/decision/details were brought to obama, about benghazi, while those 4 men were still breathing.   Maybe he didn't have power to stop it, who knows what channels that decision takes, i dunno.  But to believe a US embassy endured a 7+ hour gun battle and the POTUS didn't hear about it until afterward?  Hogwash.
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« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2015, 08:52:06 PM »

Yes, I was trolling on the vetoes.  He's had what, 3?  lol   reagan and bush were in the dozens.  but i get it, he was shielded by a dem senate who killed anything before they got it to him, so the # is skewed. 

Yes, I absolutely believe the info/decision/details were brought to obama, about benghazi, while those 4 men were still breathing.   Maybe he didn't have power to stop it, who knows what channels that decision takes, i dunno.  But to believe a US embassy endured a 7+ hour gun battle and the POTUS didn't hear about it until afterward?  Hogwash.

how many military witnesses in the various investigations have already addressed this over and over again?
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« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2015, 08:56:19 PM »

how many military witnesses in the various investigations have already addressed this over and over again?

the waves of the attack were 6 hours and 40 minutes apart.    940pm then 4am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack#Assault_on_the_Compound

There WAS time to help them.

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