Rand Paul looking to 2016 run.

[Soul Crusher]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/84086.html


I'm sure the hardcore communist leftist parasites and vultures and tax sponges will try to accuse him of being a felon and murderer too. 

[Roger Bacon]

HOPE!!!

[Roger Bacon]

I think Rand can appeal to Christian extremists, and war mongers way better than his dad could.

[whork]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/84086.html


I'm sure the hardcore communist leftist parasites and vultures and tax sponges will try to accuse him of being a felon and murderer too. 

And im sure the GOP will accuse him for being retarded like his father and find a way to keep him powerless.

[outby43]

Very good news.  Rand hasn't fallen too far from the tree.  I just hope he can stick to his principals and not pander for votes.  I think he will be the best thing for the GOP.

[240 is Back]

maybe a pundit hero like mark levin will call his followers 'ru paul' fans.

maybe 'repubs' on getbig will excuse him getting fccked in the convention like his dad did, so that 'electable' candidates like mitt can lose by 4 mil to a POS POTUS.

[whork]

Very good news.  Rand hasn't fallen too far from the tree.  I just hope he can stick to his principals and not pander for votes.  I think he will be the best thing for the GOP.

He seems very awkward in interviews

[Shockwave]

Countdown until he's labeled a crazy nutjob racist homophobe (by both parties).

[whork]

Countdown until he's labeled a crazy nutjob racist homophobe (by both parties).

Yup thats probably the one thing both parties can agree on.

[OzmO]

Countdown until he's labeled a crazy nutjob racist homophobe (by both parties).

yeah, he was a bad choice for VP and i don't think he's a good choice in 2016 if the GOP actually wants to win this time.

[whork]

yeah, he was a bad choice for VP and i don't think he's a good choice in 2016 if the GOP actually wants to win this time.

The GOP will never nominate him see what happened with his father.

[Dos Equis]

I doubt he can win, if he's going to try and be more of a libertarian.  Libertarians are way outside of mainstream American.  I don't think that kind of ideology can win a presidential election. 

[240 is Back]

I doubt he can win, if he's going to try and be more of a libertarian.  Libertarians are way outside of mainstream American.  I don't think that kind of ideology can win a presidential election. 

well, we know RINO doesn't win elections either (2008 and 2012).

Why not swing libertarian?   We know the tea party can't win the nomination, we know the moderates can't win national elections.

Why not try libertarian + fiscally conservative?

[whork]

well, we know RINO doesn't win elections either (2008 and 2012).

Why not swing libertarian?   We know the tea party can't win the nomination, we know the moderates can't win national elections.

Why not try libertarian + fiscally conservative?

He will never get the GOP nomination.
The donors dont like him.

[Straw Man]

He will never get the GOP nomination.
The donors dont like him

other than a handful of racists and morons (you know who you are) the country doesn't like him either

[Roger Bacon]

maybe a pundit hero like mark levin will call his followers 'ru paul' fans.

maybe 'repubs' on getbig will excuse him getting fccked in the convention like his dad did, so that 'electable' candidates like mitt can lose by 4 mil to a POS POTUS.

Sad but true

[Dos Equis]

well, we know RINO doesn't win elections either (2008 and 2012).

Why not swing libertarian?   We know the tea party can't win the nomination, we know the moderates can't win national elections.

Why not try libertarian + fiscally conservative?

Because libertarians are far outside of mainstream America.  That's why they are irrelevant when it comes to national politics.  Gary Johnson got 1.2 million votes.  Romney got 59 million, Obama 64 million.  Libertarians are irrelevant. 

A true fiscal and social conservative can win in 2016.

[Shockwave]

other than a handful of racists and morons (you know who you are) the country doesn't like him either

[Roger Bacon]

Because libertarians are far outside of mainstream America.  That's why they are irrelevant when it comes to national politics.  Gary Johnson got 1.2 million votes.  Romney got 59 million, Obama 64 million.  Libertarians are irrelevant. 

A true fiscal and social conservative can win in 2016.

Run someone like Santorum and see what happens.

[Dos Equis]

Run someone like Santorum and see what happens.

Someone like Rubio, Jindal, Christie (if he loses weight), Nikki Haley, etc. could win.  All fiscal and social conservatives.  Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II all ran as fiscal and social conservatives.  Didn't always govern that way, but fiscal and social conservatives win presidential elections.  Libertarians do not.

[Soul Crusher]

2016 will probably be another choice between two bums 

[Shockwave]

Someone like Rubio, Jindal, Christie (if he loses weight), Nikki Haley, etc. could win.  All fiscal and social conservatives.  Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II all ran as fiscal and social conservatives.  Didn't always govern that way, but fiscal and social conservatives win presidential elections.  Libertarians do not.

Times are changing. People are becoming more socially liberal. Hell, they're becoming more liberal, period. I don't see a great influx of youth voters going to the Republicans, which they'll need to win the election. Kids are becoming more liberal.

Society is becoming more liberal.

I may not agree with it 100% (as I tend to be fiscally conservative), but thats the direction we're heading. 

[Soul Crusher]

Times are changing. People are becoming more socially liberal. Hell, they're becoming more liberal, period. I don't see a great influx of youth voters going to the Republicans, which they'll need to win the election. Kids are becoming more liberal.

Society is becoming more liberal.

I may not agree with it 100% (as I tend to be fiscally conservative), but thats the direction we're heading. 

The fact is that there are more single white women than in the past and people like Saint Rick , Akin, et al are poison for that vote. 

The repubs will never ever get more that 10% pf tjhe black vote but can peel off some hispanics. 

WTF is so hard about a message of out of the wallet, out of the bedroom, out of the cubbard, leave me the F alone" ??

[Shockwave]

WTF is so hard about a message of out of the wallet, out of the bedroom, out of the cubbard, leave me the F alone" ??

Because then you're a racist, sexist, nutjob, homophobe. 

[Shockwave]

The fact is that there are more single white women than in the past and people like Saint Rick , Akin, et al are poison for that vote. 

The repubs will never ever get more that 10% pf tjhe black vote but can peel off some hispanics. 

WTF is so hard about a message of out of the wallet, out of the bedroom, out of the cubbard, leave me the F alone" ??

I think people in general aren't fond of a party that makes it their business to tell you how to live. Especially young people. The answer isn't to run someone FARTHER to the right (which polarize things even more, and the numbers simply aren't in the Republicans favor IMHO), it's to run someone closer to center, while still maintaining most of the ideals that the Republican party stands for.

And don't give me that crap that Mitt was closer to center, Mitt was all over the fucking place.