Rand Paul looking to 2016 run.

[whork]

The fact is that there are more single white women than in the past and people like Saint Rick , Akin, et al are poison for that vote. 

The repubs will never ever get more that 10% pf tjhe black vote but can peel off some hispanics. 

WTF is so hard about a message of out of the wallet, out of the bedroom, out of the cubbard, leave me the F alone" ??

Thats the libertarian message the GOP is the opposite.
And you took the side of the GOP.

[Soul Crusher]

Thats the libertarian message the GOP is the opposite.
And you took the side of the GOP.

The clear and present danger was obama.  only one person had a possibility of ousting him. 

[240 is Back]

Because libertarians are far outside of mainstream America.  That's why they are irrelevant when it comes to national politics.  Gary Johnson got 1.2 million votes.  Romney got 59 million, Obama 64 million.  Libertarians are irrelevant.  

A true fiscal and social conservative can win in 2016.

Can you list what Rnad paul libertarian positions wouldn't play well with voters?  I woudlnt think the pot legalization, but seeing the results of the 2012 election, I dunno.

I don't konw that a social con can win in 2016.  

[Shockwave]

Can you list what Rnad paul libertarian positions wouldn't play well with voters?  I woudlnt think the pot legalization, but seeing the results of the 2012 election, I dunno.

I don't konw that a social con can win in 2016.  

I don't think they can. Simply too many socially liberal people in the country now.

[240 is Back]

I don't think they can. Simply too many socially liberal people in the country now.

props for admitting that.

I agree with you.   WHile the 'base' may be solidified in talk, they sure don't bother voting.  And like it or not, the moral fabric of America is shifting left. 

[Soul Crusher]

Can you list what Rnad paul libertarian positions wouldn't play well with voters?  I woudlnt think the pot legalization, but seeing the results of the 2012 election, I dunno.

I don't konw that a social con can win in 2016.  

I dont smoke crack or pot like obama does, but i am 100% against the war on drugs so i would have voted to legalize obama's addiction too.  

[240 is Back]

I dont smoke crack or pot like obama does, but i am 100% against the war on drugs so i would have voted to legalize obama's addiction too. 

slow down there cheech.  Crack and meth too?  Or just weed?

[whork]

I dont smoke crack or pot like obama does, but i am 100% against the war on drugs so i would have voted to legalize obama's addiction too.  

+1

[Shockwave]

slow down there cheech.  Crack and meth too?  Or just weed?

Crack and Meth are very socially destructive drugs with an extremely high rate of addiction.
Weed is comparable to Alcohol.

I don't think you can legalize everything. But I think we should end the war on drugs, as it doesn't do shit but make people feel good.

[Straw Man]

I think people in general aren't fond of a party that makes it their business to tell you how to live. Especially young people. The answer isn't to run someone FARTHER to the right (which polarize things even more, and the numbers simply aren't in the Republicans favor IMHO), it's to run someone closer to center, while still maintaining most of the ideals that the Republican party stands for.

And don't give me that crap that Mitt was closer to center, Mitt was all over the fucking place.

at least one poster on this board thinks that is the exact solution to the pummeling the Repubs received this year

[Straw Man]

sorry dude, I'm sure he probably has a few supporters who aren't racist morons

[Soul Crusher]

sorry dude, I'm sure he probably has a few supporters who aren't racist morons

Right - because liberals are never racist. 

[Roger Bacon]

The fact is that there are more single white women than in the past and people like Saint Rick , Akin, et al are poison for that vote. 

The repubs will never ever get more that 10% pf tjhe black vote but can peel off some hispanics. 

WTF is so hard about a message of out of the wallet, out of the bedroom, out of the cubbard, leave me the F alone" ??

[Roger Bacon]

Someone like Rubio, Jindal, Christie (if he loses weight), Nikki Haley, etc. could win.  All fiscal and social conservatives.  Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II all ran as fiscal and social conservatives.  Didn't always govern that way, but fiscal and social conservatives win presidential elections.  Libertarians do not.

People like you are a dying breed thankfully.

[Shockwave]

sorry dude, I'm sure he probably has a few supporters who aren't racist morons

I still don't understand how racism has become synonymous with the Paul's.

[Soul Crusher]

[whork]

I still don't understand how racism has become synonymous with the Paul's.

Its BS from the left to discredit him.

Just like the right calls him weak on foreign policy to discredit him.

[Soul Crusher]

Its BS from the left to discredit him.

Just like the right calls him weak on foreign policy to discredit him.

They call him racist because he wants to end the gravy train and cradle to grave welfare, pot, booze, food stamps, section 8, etc 

[Dos Equis]

Times are changing. People are becoming more socially liberal. Hell, they're becoming more liberal, period. I don't see a great influx of youth voters going to the Republicans, which they'll need to win the election. Kids are becoming more liberal.

Society is becoming more liberal.

I may not agree with it 100% (as I tend to be fiscally conservative), but thats the direction we're heading. 

Not necessarily.  We have 29 Republican governors.  Republicans control the House and numerous state legislatures.  I don't really see a complete trend.  Maybe some movement on an issue or two.

[Dos Equis]

People like you are a dying breed thankfully.

Thankfully, people like you have zero influence on national public policy.

[outby43]

LOL...she got owned.


2016 Campaign ad:  

"While (insert Name here) has worked countless hours working towards a better America, Rand Paul thinks it is important that his toilets work."

The sad thing is people will believe these ads and miss the actual theme.

[Straw Man]

They call him racist because he wants to end the gravy train and cradle to grave welfare, pot, booze, food stamps, section 8, etc 

wrong again

it's because he's on the record as saying individuals and businesses should have the right to discriminate

[Roger Bacon]

wrong again

it's because he's on the record as saying individuals and businesses should have the right to discriminate

They should, so should landlords, private individuals, etc...

This isn't a racism issue, it's a government over stepping this bounds issue.

[Straw Man]

They should, so should landlords, private individuals, etc...

This isn't a racism issue, it's a government over stepping this bounds issue.

ok, so how about the government say if you want to have access to public utilities, police, fire service etc... then you follow the laws against discrimination of sex, race, religion, etc..

[240 is Back]

Thankfully, people like you have zero influence on national public policy.

social cons had no influence on the presidential elections in 2008 and 2012.

However, "people like him" did.