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tbombz · « **Reply #1 on:** November 21, 2012, 08:12:41 PM »

bigbobs, can i get a yes or no answer from you on this questions: would god ever engage in violence?

Roger Bacon · « **Reply #2 on:** November 21, 2012, 08:13:33 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on November 21, 2012, 08:12:41 PM

bigbobs, can i get a yes or no answer from you on this questions: would god ever engage in violence?

Of fucking course not. He wouldn't intervene either

bigbobs · « **Reply #3 on:** November 21, 2012, 08:15:17 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on November 21, 2012, 08:12:41 PM

bigbobs, can i get a yes or no answer from you on this questions: would god ever engage in violence?

if it was needed for justice, i think so

tbombz · « **Reply #4 on:** November 21, 2012, 08:54:38 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on November 21, 2012, 08:15:17 PM

if it was needed for justice, i think so

i can understand taking that position.

but there is suffering and mass atrocity on earth everyday.

if god would use violence, if god would ever interfere in any direct way to stop humans from doing evil, then surely he would have done so already.

but the holocaust happened. at this very moment some young person in some third world country is being brutally beaten and raped to death.

where is god?

i think it very obvious that god would never engage in violence.

24KT · « **Reply #5 on:** November 21, 2012, 09:14:05 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on November 21, 2012, 08:54:38 PM

i can understand taking that position.

but there is suffering and mass atrocity on earth everyday.

if god would use violence, if god would ever interfere in any direct way to stop humans from doing evil, then surely he would have done so already.

but the holocaust happened. at this very moment some young person in some third world country is being brutally beaten and raped to death.

where is god?

i think it very obvious that god would never engage in violence.

Except when throwing money changers out of the temple.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #6 on:** November 21, 2012, 09:27:43 PM »

good post

tbombz · « **Reply #7 on:** November 21, 2012, 10:08:42 PM »

24k, don't confuse religious dogma with god.

24KT · « **Reply #8 on:** November 21, 2012, 10:11:09 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on November 21, 2012, 10:08:42 PM

24k, don't confuse religious dogma with god.

If the bible thumpers can trot out religious dogma to prop up their positions, ...then so can I.

tbombz · « **Reply #9 on:** November 21, 2012, 10:13:55 PM »

You can do whatever you wish. But engaging in faulty logic because others do the same isn't very wise.

24KT · « **Reply #10 on:** November 21, 2012, 10:29:50 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on November 21, 2012, 10:13:55 PM

You can do whatever you wish. But engaging in faulty logic because others do the same isn't very wise.

Wise? when you're dealing with morons, wisdom is not something they easily recognize. ...besides, but the stress relief it brings it fun.

tbombz · « **Reply #11 on:** November 21, 2012, 11:28:52 PM »

Calling people morons isn't very wise either.

24KT · « **Reply #12 on:** November 21, 2012, 11:41:14 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on November 21, 2012, 11:28:52 PM

Calling people morons isn't very wise either.

Who is going for wise? ...I was going for accuracy.

tbombz · « **Reply #13 on:** November 21, 2012, 11:53:33 PM »

being wise is far better than being accurate. wisdom includes accuracy, accuracy does not necessarily include any wisdom.

WOOO · « **Reply #14 on:** November 22, 2012, 04:20:00 AM »

Quote from: bigbobs on November 21, 2012, 08:09:57 PM

did he just admit to american't supporting war crimes against civilians?

that's what i heard...

you american'ts are nuts

Vince G, CSN MFT · « **Reply #15 on:** November 22, 2012, 06:55:51 AM »

Quote from: bigbobs on November 21, 2012, 08:09:57 PM

Ron Paul is 100 percent right.

Shockwave · « **Reply #16 on:** November 22, 2012, 07:42:49 AM »

Quote from: WOOO on November 22, 2012, 04:20:00 AM

did he just admit to american't supporting war crimes against civilians?

that's what i heard...

you american'ts are nuts

There is a reason both parties did their best to assassinate his character in the last election.

Necrosis · « **Reply #17 on:** November 22, 2012, 07:56:08 AM »

Quote from: tbombz on November 21, 2012, 08:54:38 PM

i can understand taking that position.

but there is suffering and mass atrocity on earth everyday.

if god would use violence, if god would ever interfere in any direct way to stop humans from doing evil, then surely he would have done so already.

but the holocaust happened. at this very moment some young person in some third world country is being brutally beaten and raped to death.

where is god?

i think it very obvious that god would never engage in violence.

Since you cannot know god anymore then me, the only thing we have to gauge his character is his creation wouldn't you say.

Straw Man · « **Reply #18 on:** November 22, 2012, 08:11:03 AM »

Quote from: tbombz on November 21, 2012, 08:12:41 PM

bigbobs, can i get a yes or no answer from you on this questions: would god ever engage in violence?

The entire bible is filled with violence either by god or inspired by god
Lets start with the flood intended to decimate the human race and go on from there

24KT · « **Reply #19 on:** November 22, 2012, 08:39:45 AM »

Quote from: Straw Man on November 22, 2012, 08:11:03 AM

The entire bible is filled with violence either by god or inspired by god
Lets start with the flood intended to decimate the human race and go on from there

So there... it's settled isn't it? God is a genocidal maniac.

24KT · « **Reply #20 on:** November 22, 2012, 08:40:30 AM »

Quote from: tbombz on November 21, 2012, 11:53:33 PM

being wise is far better than being accurate. wisdom includes accuracy, accuracy does not necessarily include any wisdom.

{psst} ...have you taken a look at the audience lately?

Archer77 · « **Reply #21 on:** November 22, 2012, 08:49:47 AM »

Quote from: tbombz on November 21, 2012, 08:54:38 PM

i can understand taking that position.

but there is suffering and mass atrocity on earth everyday.

if god would use violence, if god would ever interfere in any direct way to stop humans from doing evil, then surely he would have done so already.

but the holocaust happened. at this very moment some young person in some third world country is being brutally beaten and raped to death.

where is god?

i think it very obvious that god would never engage in violence.

According to the Hebrew-Christian lore, God murdered all the first born sons of Egypt. He also flooded the world, killing every human being, plant and animal, save the select few he chose to spare. The Jewish God is a vengeful, spiteful and wrathful guy.

24KT · « **Reply #22 on:** November 22, 2012, 08:56:32 AM »

Quote from: Archer77 on November 22, 2012, 08:49:47 AM

According to the Hebrew-Christian lore, God murdered all the first born sons of Egypt. He also flooded the world, killing every human being, plant and animal, save the select few he chose to spare. The Jewish God is a vengeful, spiteful and wrathful guy.

...not to mention jealous. Let's not forget jealous.

What lovely character traits. Very becoming wouldn't you say?

Straw Man · « **Reply #23 on:** November 22, 2012, 09:00:30 AM »

The "good news" of Jesus is that you have the single choice of accepting him as your saviour or spending eternity suffering in hell

Archer77 · « **Reply #24 on:** November 22, 2012, 09:05:42 AM »

Quote from: 24KT on November 22, 2012, 08:56:32 AM

...not to mention jealous. Let's not forget jealous.

What lovely character traits. Very becoming wouldn't you say?

How could I forget Jealous! Doesn't sounds like the kind of god I want to spent eternity with. I think if the god of the bible were a human he would be a certified sociopath.