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« on: November 27, 2012, 07:29:41 PM »

Is it possible to unite the people under nationalism such as in 20's Italy or 30's Germany?  Or are we too much of a melting pot to unite ourselves?  Can you have true nationalism without having a singular race?
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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2012, 08:13:30 PM »

Nationalism is a dirty word.  We're citizens of the Earth, forget about your country, your state, your city, your family, your race.
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2012, 10:31:34 PM »



this guy winning proves we already have
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2012, 10:46:14 PM »



this guy winning proves we already have
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2012, 09:25:56 AM »

only dumb people think that 'hate' is why someone doesn't like obama

its overspending inflation and debt you dummy

its more rational to say people hated mitt romney, who left MA with a surplus and was very successful in business making tons of money

all obama does it give money to friends in politics wasting tax payer money and put it on the national charge car

17T debt wow

and yes he spent 8x bush so say what want obama spent it

and no 2008 was not bush is was government   with fed fanny and clinton rule you have to give loan to poor guy who wont pay

so you jsut make yourself look like a moron when you post toon as if hating obama is not completely rational

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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2012, 08:23:46 PM »

Nationalism is a dirty word.  We're citizens of the Earthexistence, forget about your country, your state, your city, your family, your race.
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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2012, 08:27:19 PM »

only dumb people think that 'hate' is why someone doesn't like obama

its overspending inflation and debt you dummy

its more rational to say people hated mitt romney, who left MA with a surplus and was very successful in business making tons of money

all obama does it give money to friends in politics wasting tax payer money and put it on the national charge car

17T debt wow

and yes he spent 8x bush so say what want obama spent it

and no 2008 was not bush is was government   with fed fanny and clinton rule you have to give loan to poor guy who wont pay

so you jsut make yourself look like a moron when you post toon as if hating obama is not completely rational

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debt was 10 trillion when obama took office

2008 was partially caused by the policies encouraging sub prime lending that were pushed by both clinton and bush2. but the private banks and rating agencies were also a big factor, and the crisis wouldnt have been anywhere near as severe without their actions.
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2012, 10:05:07 AM »

yup

I couldn't disagree more.   Cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2012, 04:04:36 PM »

Not sure why the automatic link between the two in the thread title.
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2012, 09:22:20 PM »

I couldn't disagree more.   Cheesy
its an extremely slippery slope between celebrating your kinship and discriminating against outsiders.
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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2012, 03:00:24 PM »

Not sure why the automatic link between the two in the thread title.

Most people associate the two. That nationalism promotes fascism. Nazis
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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2012, 04:54:28 PM »

Most people associate the two. That nationalism promotes fascism. Nazis

If America was what she was meant to be, we'd have a sense of Nationalism that would stand fully opposed to Fascism.
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2012, 01:22:17 PM »

Fascism comes in many shapes and forms and it has been transforming since the birth of man.

The simpletons who associate fascism solely with Adolf Hitler are those who think that nationalism is equal or integral part of fascism.
Any outlet, in Musso/Hitlers case the nationality/bloodline, will do where you declare supremacy by a criteria above something/someone else.
What's important is the "greater good" idea which can only thrive if a certain criteria is met and all opposition is "dealt" with.

Think of who is portrayed as antiquated, hateful, bigoted, discriminating in today's world and you will have a clear view where "we" are headed as a whole.

An example of transcending fascism is Austrian politics after WW2 is the SPÍ party(social party). Many people associate Hitler and the Nazis as something that just appeared, was dealt with and ceased to exist.
So after 1945 it was over, all bad people turned to dust and we pushed forward towards a free Austria... well not quite.
A big part of the SPÍ back then was made up by ex nazis who simple shook of nationalism and went forth to build careers in a more timid manner.
Today they are the top force behind Immigration and Islamizzzation of our little country having a member of the moo-slime brotherhood as their ally.

What a co-incidence - another form of socialist/collectivist power grab.

America and Europe share the same "fate" due to collectivist ideas and light bearers.
 
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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2012, 04:13:53 PM »

So Bruce, what you're saying is that we in America are in a fascist state now?  Why do they pander to Moslems in Austria?
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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2012, 04:59:18 PM »

So Bruce, what you're saying is that we in America are in a fascist state now?  Why do they pander to Moslems in Austria?

Of course you are - America has been devoured from the inside.
 
Look at your wars, the stupid Izzlum appeasement + the democracy spreading(helping radical Isslaam) in stone age countries that costs lives/money/resources, the subverted "christian" church, the shopping extravaganza on credit, neo-con greed, the femi nazi reign, the mangina epidemic, destruction of the middle class, inept secret service, your infrastructure, a race baiting president... etc.
...your eagle has run out of feathers and is wearing a Mao t-shirt.


Austria imported its first problems in the 60ies in the form of cheap workforce - the eagle had landed.(due to greed)
Today it's obvious who's boss - you only have to teach at schools, look into the military, the media - all is geared towards mooslims feeling "equal" and "understood" - meaning bowing to them. Many suspicious arab politicians used to flee to Austria where they were welcomed and kept well fed.
Izzlam cleric became an official job in 2011.
There was a pro Hamaz, not pro palestine, demonstration in Vienna and no one lost a word about it on the news.

It's simple - europe being an arabic entity has long been on the agenda of power.
And if you're really keen on knowing why then read about Masonic initiation rituals, their core believes and "brotherhood".

Other good news...
First Sharia conform bank opened in 2004 in Britain.
Sharia compliant stock market products by e.g. by deutsche bank and various others.

p.s.: Coming to an America near you  Wink




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« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2012, 06:37:17 PM »

Nationalism is a dirty word.  We're citizens of the Earth, forget about your country, your state, your city, your family, your race.

How so? I have nothing in common with people from other parts of the USA, let alone the rest of the world.

Take your globalism and fuck off.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2012, 01:00:42 AM »

How so? I have nothing in common with people from other parts of the USA, let alone the rest of the world.

Take your globalism and fuck off.  Roll Eyes

I'm with you fuck face, I was being sarcastic.  

No one on this board is more anti-globalist, or a bigger supporter of States rights over the Federal Government (UN) than me.

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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2012, 06:24:00 AM »

Fascism comes in many shapes and forms and it has been transforming since the birth of man.

The simpletons who associate fascism solely with Adolf Hitler are those who think that nationalism is equal or integral part of fascism.
Any outlet, in Musso/Hitlers case the nationality/bloodline, will do where you declare supremacy by a criteria above something/someone else.
What's important is the "greater good" idea which can only thrive if a certain criteria is met and all opposition is "dealt" with.

Think of who is portrayed as antiquated, hateful, bigoted, discriminating in today's world and you will have a clear view where "we" are headed as a whole.

An example of transcending fascism is Austrian politics after WW2 is the SPÍ party(social party). Many people associate Hitler and the Nazis as something that just appeared, was dealt with and ceased to exist.
So after 1945 it was over, all bad people turned to dust and we pushed forward towards a free Austria... well not quite.
A big part of the SPÍ back then was made up by ex nazis who simple shook of nationalism and went forth to build careers in a more timid manner.
Today they are the top force behind Immigration and Islamizzzation of our little country having a member of the moo-slime brotherhood as their ally.


What a co-incidence - another form of socialist/collectivist power grab.

America and Europe share the same "fate" due to collectivist ideas and light bearers.
 


So what you're saying is that the anti Jewish sentiment made the people embrace the Muslims, like the old adage, "an enemy of my enemy is my friend'?
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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2012, 03:53:18 PM »

So what you're saying is that the anti Jewish sentiment made the people embrace the Muslims, like the old adage, "an enemy of my enemy is my friend'?

That would pass vaguely as in transcending from a (1)political anti choo sentiment to a more (2)religious one. National Socialism is based on greed, "unity", "equality", disinformation, disdain for religion and jouw hate 'guised as being anti-communist. Hitler was a fan of Islam and loved it's regulated state hood/jew hate.
Sooo... which "gentle" folks would the now ex nazis prefer to "enrich" the little Austria with... ? ^^

If you take any "superstition/agenda" out of the equation there was a simple pro muslim move because of population issues - young material to control/cheap workforce comes from mŘzlimized/uneducated regions. Even shortly before WW2 raged the westerners weren't exactly keen on birthing. Before WW1 it was different(10+ person families).

If you consider "conspiracy" then take into account that...
-Hitler was a child of the Thule society which in itself a New Age movement
-Hitler loved New Age cliche (Atlantis, Superhumans, fake religion, deification aka becoming god)
-after Hitler came to power he was quick to forbid any theosophic connection hence shielding his nourishing roots from public scrutiny

Irongrip, since you seem interested in what's been going on I urge you to read into New Age and Masonic material, even join a lodge.
This will be vital in understanding what's in front of us and how life will drastically change.


(1)judaism was understood as being equal to/thriving force of Bolshevism which was furthermore understood to be for the jewish/asian axis in Russia and against the Caucasian element in the bear. In reality communism is also anti jewish, so seemingly, Hitler hunted a political ghost.

(2)moohamed was rejected by his own tribe(Quraish) and had to get the jews(people of the book) on boat to his "noble" effort/conversion to Islam. He moved to the region where predominately jews lived but his efforts where rejected/jews were probably busy designing the american dream ^^.
This is the reason why Qooruan is keen on exterminating Joos and its vicious peace/battle ideology aka mental sickness.
Moohamd was also extremely envious of the wealth accumulated by jews hence his sick obsession began.
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« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2012, 04:19:00 PM »

20th century authoritarianism will not be seen again in western first world countries.  People will waddle their fat ignorant asses to the showers themselves this time, wearing expensive Nike shoes they cant afford while eating a Big Mac and a drinking a giant sized slurpy.
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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2012, 08:12:45 AM »

20th century authoritarianism will not be seen again in western first world countries.  People will waddle their fat ignorant asses to the showers themselves this time, wearing expensive Nike shoes they cant afford while eating a Big Mac and a drinking a giant sized slurpy.

Seems most likely for most, but there's a substantial part that won't obey.
It's to be seen if this pack can do anything but save their own asses - we'll see.
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« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2012, 11:19:22 PM »



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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2012, 12:00:12 AM »

Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and all the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called 'patriotism'. - Kenny Powers
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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2012, 06:59:00 AM »

Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and all the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called 'patriotism'. - Kenny Powers


I don't see what's wrong with wanting to preserve your countries better values like freedom and democracy.  I guess that makes me xenophobic as well.  It's worse in Europe.  They are allowing groups to enter their countries who despise democracy, individuality and equality.

Seems most likely for most, but there's a substantial part that won't obey.
It's to be seen if this pack can do anything but save their own asses - we'll see.

You have a point. But the powers that be have so divided people that they may not have enough collective strength to resist.
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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2012, 09:09:22 AM »


I don't see what's wrong with wanting to preserve your countries better values like freedom and democracy.  I guess that makes me xenophobic as well.  It's worse in Europe.  They are allowing groups to enter their countries who despise democracy, individuality and equality.


I agree... I want this country to be the best it possibly can be... That's all there is to it.
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