Some of the juicers here are real collection of mental basket cases.
If you are only lifting for how you look in the mirror, you deserve to be depressed and miserable.
I have been lifting since 17 yo clean, thats 20 years of drug free lifting, and really going at it. I do it because I love to lift and look at it as a challenge and really letting out steam at the end of the day.
At 37, I still have a great base of muscle that is solid and doesnt go away when I diet a bit. It takes YEARS to build quality solid muscle, not months of sticking yourself in the ass. If you dont have the heart to put in a few solid years up front of hardcore lifting, the basics, than you are not a lifter, but a drug addict looking for a quick high.
I see these idiots in the gym all the time, cycle after cycle, blow up and shrink, bow up and shrink. and guess what - there is nothing underneath the bloat typically. No strength gains, no size gains, just a shriveled shadow of the person of a few months before.
Do it right, take the time to build the muscle, do the basic lifts and stop w the beach muscle bullshit, put on a crazy metal mix, and just go to war. Years later when you still have the muscle and still enjoy lifting just for the sake of it - you won't regret it.
This site needs a resident shrink for some of these pussies.