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« on: December 04, 2012, 05:21:35 AM »

Dec 3, 2012

Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner says that there simply can’t be a deal without tax rates on the wealthiest going up. We can’t fix things by raising taxes on the strapped middle class. In simple terms—we can’t balance the budget with blood from a bunch of turnips. Republicans want to reduce the deficit with painful budget cuts. But even more than that, they want President Obama to be the one who has to name those painful cuts. Republicans won’t stab you in the chest. They’ll only stab you from behind so that while they’re doing it they can yell “Look out! Obama has a knife!”

Mitch McConnell has hinted at a few specifics that the Republicans want. The first thing you learn from them is why Republicans don’t want to tell you what they want to cut. McConnell wants to raise the eligibility age for Medicare to 67. Republicans spent the campaign attacking Obama for cutting Medicare! No wonder they want him to be the one to propose their plan to cut Medicare!

John Boehner said he was “flabbergasted” by the White House proposal on the fiscal cliff. Flabbergasted? What are you, an 80-year old dowager now, John? The Speaker is flabbergasted! Someone get that poor dear some smelling salts before he swoons! I think he has the vapors! “Flabbergasted” is the kind of word used by rich little old ladies—the kind who live in apartments decorated like Rush Limbaugh’s old New York City pad.

Developing: John Boehner just released a fiscal cliff “plan” complete with magic revenues and Ryan-budget healthcare cuts. Didn't we just vote on the crap?

In his weekly radio address, President Obama said it’s unacceptable for Congressional Republicans to “hold middle class tax cuts hostage.” That’s what they’re doing! I’m surprised the Republicans haven’t already cut off the ear of the middle class tax cuts and mailed it to Obama.

Grover Norquist claims that “Tea Party 2 is going to dwarf Tea Party 1 if Obama pushes us off the cliff.” Come on, Grover—everybody knows the sequel is never as good as the original. And that goes double when the original was bad. I don’t want to see “Tea Party 2!” I would rather watch “Lincoln 2: The Rise of Andrew Johnson.”
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2012, 05:24:50 AM »

It's called compromise, it happens everyday in the real world, just not in Washington. Both sides are being stubborn and refusing to budge on demands. I hope Obama can reach across the isle and settle this shit, because its bad for everybody involved if it keeps rolling the way it is.
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2012, 07:47:02 AM »

Losing in the court of public opinion
Tue Dec 4, 2012

With congressional Republicans and President Obama nowhere near one another when it comes to the ongoing fiscal talks, the likelihood of failure at the end of the month is quite high. Who would the American mainstream hold responsible for the mess? According a new Washington Post-Pew Research Center poll, it's not a close call.



By a nearly two-to-one margin, Americans would blame GOP lawmakers for the failure to reach a bipartisan agreement. Though it's common for many to reflexively blame "both sides" for every political misstep, in this poll, only about one in 10 people would hold both Republicans and the president responsible.

What's more, these perceptions seem pretty stable -- a similar poll was conducted three weeks ago, and the results were largely identical.

The question is whether any of this will have a practical effect. Chris Cillizza reported, "Republicans are well aware of where the public seems ready to put the blame if no deal on the cliff is reached. It's why House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) offered a counterproposal Monday to the one President Obama laid out last week. Simply letting stalemate stand for the next 10 to 14 days is unacceptable to Republicans who know they have to do everything they can to avoid the cliff -- and the blame for it that seems likely headed their way."

In recent years, GOP officials have generally ignored public pressure, but it's worth keeping in mind that both Obama and Republican leaders have made an effort to persuade the public, and at this point, only one of those sides is winning.

There's obviously an enormous amount of time before the 2014 midterms, at which point lawmakers will face the public's judgment, but between now and then, how eager are congressional Republicans to explain why they decided, on purpose, to shrink middle-class workers' paychecks, not just through income taxes, but also through payroll taxes?
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2012, 09:09:49 AM »

Benny and his "maddow" graph. Haha

This person (I will never refer to his president) has never had any intention to compromise.anything. he's playing a game and could careless about what happens. Personally, I hope it does fall of this cliff. Since at least 2010 everything has fallen directly on the libs whether you fall for the "blame  Bush" Bullshit or not. Fuck him and the left.
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2012, 09:36:04 AM »

I don't understand why the democrats are fighting changing the way the "rich" use certain tax deductions like the Republicans want.

Does anyone really think letting the Bush tax deductions expire for those making over 250K will make a dent in the deficit?  If you make over 100K you are in the the top 5% of the nation. There is'nt enough people making over 250K to make a real difference.

 We all know letting the Bush tax cuts will be be accepted in the end by Republicans cause they have no choice. It's funny how the Democrats are fighting so hard to keep in place the Bush tax cuts.  Yes I said it Benny, the Bush tax cuts.

We will soon be a one party system were the only choice will be one democrat or another democrat. Obama during this term will fast track citizenship and go to internet voting. The Republican party will never win another President election again. Social programs will explode and so will the taxes to pay for it. Be careful for what kind of country you want. You just might get it.
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2012, 10:46:54 AM »

I don't understand why the democrats are fighting changing the way the "rich" use certain tax deductions like the Republicans want.

Does anyone really think letting the Bush tax deductions expire for those making over 250K will make a dent in the deficit?  If you make over 100K you are in the the top 5% of the nation. There is'nt enough people making over 250K to make a real difference.

 We all know letting the Bush tax cuts will be be accepted in the end by Republicans cause they have no choice. It's funny how the Democrats are fighting so hard to keep in place the Bush tax cuts.  Yes I said it Benny, the Bush tax cuts.

We will soon be a one party system were the only choice will be one democrat or another democrat. Obama during this term will fast track citizenship and go to internet voting. The Republican party will never win another President election again. Social programs will explode and so will the taxes to pay for it. Be careful for what kind of country you want. You just might get it.


Nor is there enough million and billionaires to make a difference. Again, it doesn't matter. All Obama is doing is leading the people on with no intention on doing anything despite other countries that have and still are doing the same and failing miserably. Socialist President in France has destroyed the economy even further in the short time he's been in.   
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