Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa

[James28]

thanks dude

in fact i just saw on a forbes magazine on-line article that norway was ranked number 1 with regards to the most desirable place to live on this planet, in fact all the scando countries (norway, denmark, sweden, and finland) were within the top 8 of this list

Many reasons for that. Great education systems which are completely free. An instilled respect for the environment. Fantastic social services but you do pay a slightly higher than usual tax rate for that. Not as crazy as morons such as Coach (he once thought the Danes pay 150% tax) would have you believe about 'socialized countries'. I've done contract work in Sweden at a fairly high rate and only paid about 20%. It's usually about 30% across the board, but you do get good service for what you pay.

I've not travelled Finland as extensively as I would've liked, but from what I've seen it's a great place too. Though, they don't class themselves as Scandinavian, but Nordic. The rest of Scandinavians see them as Scando-Russians.

I'll more than likely end up in either Sweden or Norway within the next 5 years.

[MAXX]

And I really like that about them. I'd never in a billion years work directly for one or do any kind of business with one, but as a people they're quiet, respectful, clean, non violent and stick to themselves. I don't need their friendship or money so they're cool by me.

Well... IDK if it's a good trait in the long run.

If you are welcomed to a new country maybe you shouldn't disrespect the host people with this behavior? When you reach high power(ex. banking/politics) and continue this behavior people will get pissed off about it. history shows it will eventually lead to conflict.

[MAXX]

Many reasons for that. Great education systems which are completely free. An instilled respect for the environment. Fantastic social services but you do pay a slightly higher than usual tax rate for that. Not as crazy as morons such as Coach (he once thought the Danes pay 150% tax) would have you believe about 'socialized countries'. I've done contract work in Sweden at a fairly high rate and only paid about 20%. It's usually about 30% across the board, but you do get good service for what you pay.

I've not travelled Finland as extensively as I would've liked, but from what I've seen it's a great place too. Though, they don't class themselves as Scandinavian, but Nordic. The rest of Scandinavians see them as Scando-Russians.

I'll more than likely end up in either Sweden or Norway within the next 5 years.

Norway is obviously the better choice. Now and more so in the future.

[James28]

unfortunately,its not that simple.

we do need the eu in some ways.

100thousand germans have flooded the labour market here in only a few years.

living costs are driving up and up.

btw,as for norway and sweden being desireable places to live, well, it always depends, with money, almost everywhere is good.

scandinavian countriue have shit weather and are socialist in nature, keep that in mind.

id rather live on spanish canary islands if id retire

For the weather I'd also live in Spain when I retire, but with a 25% and rising unemployment rate, massive debts and in a position needing to borrow money NOT to go bust, I'd rather stay and be rich in Scandinavia and holiday 6 times a year. I wouldn't live anywhere purely for the weather.

edit.

Plus from what I remember (I don't go there often), you need to bribe every fucker to get anything serious done, massive immigration issues due to location close to that dark continent. High levels of corruption.

no thanks.

[Donny]

well i want to retire in my Scottish Castle on the banks of Loch Lomond....

[magikusar]

Nah, "magikusar" is just a kid who most likely has never held an assault rifle in his hands.
Those are usually the best experts   

unlike you I have not held another mans cock in my hands

[magikusar]

solution is simple:

end debt spending

don't let politicians spend more and more

this is the genius of the us const, it limits government, which is how you have everyone get rich including poor, and why usa is far far far no 1 and far far the highest standard of living if you work 40 hours producitvely 

no contest

people when they feel paycheck shrink and house tax bill up hate gov spending

now the trick is debt spend and let inflation quietly make everyone poor

you know when prices go down, as they anturally do under capitalism, everyone get richer?

wilson let this happpen aas democrat n cronies screamed in 1800s and had huge purchasing power rise for poor n common man


demscrats screamed murder

but everyoen got richer by a LOT


the reason prices climb is government spending which is wasted money given to nonproducers

when money changes hands without production ahppening everyone get poorer

this is why lawyers so bad, move money without producing anything, and why repalcing lawyer with software is awesome idea

[_bruce_]

switzerland has bilateral treatys with eu, its basically the same as a membership.

everyone sees how its slowly but steadily going down the shitter.

But the parts of the treaty must be agreed on by both parties so Sweezzlaland can say no to certain things.
Just chill on the Julius Bär's property - to not forget a nice hat for the coins and smile when you flex.

[magikusar]

racism is strongly rooted with them. that coupled with intense racist cooperatoin they sue others for is why they often reach medium in the social ladder and get wealth the didn't earn.

fixed