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« on: December 10, 2012, 07:34:46 AM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/09/afghanistan-teenagers-detained_n_2267248.html


LOL at the obama scumbags defending this over there. 
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2012, 08:47:15 PM »

I dont get how dems keep repeating 2008 was bush and unpaid for wars.

The deficit is from obama bailouts, not war.

bailouts are 10x the war


obama added 9T to deficit and counting 17T up from 8t in 2008

amazing
bush can still be blamed on TV

wow

TV really lying bigtime

wow

fukin wow
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2012, 10:17:26 PM »

He is a whole lot cooler and he didnt start a war based on exaggerations and fabrications that ended up costing trillions of dollars hundreds of thousands of lives and caused more terrorism and danger than it helped
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2012, 07:54:32 AM »

He is a whole lot cooler and he didnt start a war based on exaggerations and fabrications that ended up costing trillions of dollars hundreds of thousands of lives and caused more terrorism and danger than it helped

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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2012, 09:27:17 AM »

He is a whole lot cooler and he didnt start a war based on exaggerations and fabrications that ended up costing trillions of dollars hundreds of thousands of lives and caused more terrorism and danger than it he

You dumbshits seem to NOT want to remember Iraq was voted on on both sides. BTW, let me know when knowing your job trumps being "cool". 
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2012, 09:39:22 AM »

He is a whole lot cooler and he didnt start a war based on exaggerations and fabrications that ended up costing trillions of dollars hundreds of thousands of lives and caused more terrorism and danger than it he

You dumbshits seem to NOT want to remember Iraq was voted on on both sides. BTW, let me know when knowing your job trumps being "cool". 

The majority of voters clearly thought he "knows the job"
Remember the landslide from last month?

Why are you still here?
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2012, 09:42:21 AM »

He's black.

Yes... I said it.
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2012, 09:44:19 AM »


And you said Bush did a bang up job..
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2012, 09:45:16 AM »

And you said Bush did a bang up job..
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Yeah - I said his first term was not terrible and the 2nd was a complete disaster correct?
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2012, 09:52:40 AM »

He's black.

Yes... I said it.

I think you're forgetting a few things.
Obama is a radical black, secret muslim, communist, marxist, dictator who is trying to collapse the nation and make us all his slaves and he is doing all this to get revenge on us for what we did to his father

Its not really that crazy if you think about it all day long, every day...
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2012, 10:00:03 AM »

Yeah - I said his first term was not terrible and the 2nd was a complete disaster correct?

Not terrible = allowing multiple terrorists attacks on "the homeland" (and putting that word into the vernacular)
Letting Bin Laden get away, attacking the wrong country and getting us mired in a quagmire with tens of thousands of Americans killed or maimed, hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis killed, out of control federal spending and borrowing and setting the stage for an unprecedented financial crisis in his second term

Yeah......not terrible
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2012, 10:02:40 AM »

Not terrible = allowing multiple terrorists attacks on "the homeland" (and putting that word into the vernacular)
Letting Bin Laden get away, attacking the wrong country and getting us mired in a quagmire with tens of thousands of Americans killed or maimed, hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis killed, out of control federal spending and borrowing and setting the stage for an unprecedented financial crisis in his second term

Yeah......not terrible

So by your definition Obama is setting us up for an unprecedented financial crisis since he is spending even more than W by a magitude of trillions correct?
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2012, 11:23:47 AM »

Not terrible = allowing multiple terrorists attacks on "the homeland" (and putting that word into the vernacular)
Letting Bin Laden get away, attacking the wrong country and getting us mired in a quagmire with tens of thousands of Americans killed or maimed, hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis killed, out of control federal spending and borrowing and setting the stage for an unprecedented financial crisis in his second te

Yeah......not terrible

Please....Clinton literally had him ok n at least 10 occations and CHOSE to let him go. If it weren't for the bush policies that Obama wanted to overturn but was talked out of, binladen would still be alive and this country would have been hit on multiple occasions. You
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2012, 11:26:26 AM »

Not only that, I disagree his second term was bad, it was only about the 3 or so months of his last term before leaving office. As far as his so called "financial mess". The last 6of his eight years he had a democratic congress. Libs hate hearing it.
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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2012, 11:46:05 AM »

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
the dumbing down of the repub party  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2012, 11:56:26 AM »

So by your definition Obama is setting us up for an unprecedented financial crisis since he is spending even more than W by a magitude of trillions correct?

false

how many times have we been over this

the financial meltdown was caused by deregulation of the commodities market and the creation of "Alt A" loans (sub-prime products already existed) and the subsequent asset bubble and the eventual creation of pools of loans that were designed to fail in order to cash in on the credit default swaps.   

It had nothing to do with federal spending
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« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2012, 11:57:14 AM »

Please....Clinton literally had him ok n at least 10 occations and CHOSE to let him go. If it weren't for the bush policies that Obama wanted to overturn but was talked out of, binladen would still be alive and this country would have been hit on multiple occasions. You

source ?

Of course you'll have nothing so let's put that aside and just address the other points in my previous post
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« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2012, 12:01:32 PM »

false

how many times have we been over this

the financial meltdown was caused by deregulation of the commodities market and the creation of "Alt A" loans (sub-prime products already existed) and the subsequent asset bubble and the eventual creation of pools of loans that were designed to fail in order to cash in on the credit default swaps.   

It had nothing to do with federal spending



out of control federal spending and borrowing and setting the stage for an unprecedented financial crisis in his second term

Straw Man. 







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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2012, 12:02:30 PM »

Not only that, I disagree his second term was bad, it was only about the 3 or so months of his last term before leaving office. As far as his so called "financial mess". The last 6of his eight years he had a democratic congress. Libs hate hearing it.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA!!!!!

I'll bet you really truly believe that nonsense

no wonder your party is so completely tone deaf on why they got their ass handed to them in the last election
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« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2012, 12:04:57 PM »


out of control federal spending and borrowing and setting the stage for an unprecedented financial crisis in his second term

Straw Man. 


yep, set the stage but did not cause the crisis in the credit markets

the credit markets melted down when virtually every bank, pension fund, insurance company, etc... realized they were exposed to toxic assets for which they could not value accurately which caused a cascade effect of defaults, margin calls, etc..

No one has ever said the spending by the Bush Administration caused the financial meltdown

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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2012, 12:28:57 PM »

source ?

Of course you'll have nothing so let's put that aside and just address the other points in my previous post

There's ton of other sources, but here's one. But of course you'll dismiss it even though this has been old news for about 10 years...


Media: NBC's presentation of "Rock Center with Brian Williams" last Wednesday night demonstrated that MSNBC's Chris Matthews isn't the only one who feels tingles up his leg when he talks with or about President Obama.

President Obama's victory lap and shameless, media-assisted political exploitation of the Navy SEALs' triumph continued with the program opening with the photograph taken in the White House Situation Room, now apparently open to public tours.

Administration bigwigs were shown watching the fruits of President George W. Bush's labors as Navy SEALs, acting on a trail of evidence gathered using enhanced interrogation techniques President Obama opposed, took out Osama bin Laden.

The president was shown sitting in the corner dressed in casual clothes, as he had rushed there after playing nine holes of golf at Andrews Air Force Base before heading to the Situation Room at around 2 p.m.

"The picture," said Williams dramatically, "was actually years in the making. When he was president, Bill Clinton spent 75 cruise missiles trying to kill bin Laden."

And missed 75 times, including those launched during the Monica Lewinsky affair and his impeachment. Close, but no cigar.

Michael Scheuer is a 22-year veteran of the Central Intelligence Agency who led the Osama bin Laden unit of the Counterterrorism Center from 1996 through 1999, and was Special Advisor to it from 2001 until he left the agency in 2004. He is the author of two books on the war on terror.

In a July 4, 2006, Op-Ed in the Washington Times, Scheuer dismisses former terrorism czar Richard Clarke's memoir on the hunt for bin Laden.
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Speaking of "Mr. Clinton's failure to capture or kill bin Laden on any of the eight to 10 chances afforded by CIA reporting, Mr. Clarke never mentions that President Bush had no chances to kill bin Laden before Sept. 11 and leaves readers with the false impression that he, Mr. Clinton and Mr. Clinton's national security adviser, Sandy Berger, did their best to end the bin Laden threat."

That impression continued with Brian Williams' fawning "Rock Center" report.

As Clinton guru Dick Morris relates, a first missed opportunity to capture or kill Osama bin Laden came in February 1998, when "Clinton's aides scuttled a CIA plot that had been eight months in the planning to kidnap Osama."

The plan would have used Afghan tribesmen to capture the al-Qaida leader who would then have been brought to the U.S. for trial.

Another chance came on Aug. 20, 1998, in the famous "wag the dog" attack at the height of l'affaire Lewinsky, when cruise missiles were actually fired at a bin Laden encampment in Afghanistan.

Problem was, Clinton ordered that the Pakistanis be informed of the attack, lest they believed the cruise missile in their air space were fired by India, which didn't have any cruise missiles.

The news, of course, was leaked and bin Laden fled.

Yet another missed opportunity came in May 1999 when the CIA reported that bin Laden would be in Kandahar, Afghanistan, for five days. As the 9/11 Commission report said: "If this intelligence was not 'actionable,' working-level officials said at the time and today, it was hard for them to imagine how any intelligence could meet that standard."

It was the Clinton administration that could have put Osama bin Laden out of commission before 9/11. It was under the Clinton administration that Americans were killed by terrorists on three continents without a meaningful response.

It was under Bill Clinton that we left Somalia in disgrace after dead Americans were dragged through the streets, giving Osama all the encouragement and proof of our lack of will he needed.

Somebody better look under the rock at "Rock Center."


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« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2012, 12:30:37 PM »

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA!!!!!

I'll bet you really truly believe that nonsense

no wonder your party is so completely tone deaf on why they got their ass handed to them in the last election

Laugh all you want Biden, at least Bush didn't walk into office the first day and fuck the entire country up the next.
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« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2012, 12:41:45 PM »

Laugh all you want Biden, at least Bush didn't walk into office the first day and fuck the entire country up the next.

true

Bush just left the country completely rat fucked the day he walked out of of office

Good thing we got Obama instead of McCain or we'd be just as fucked now (or worse) as the last day of the Bush travesty
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« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2012, 02:33:17 PM »

Correrlation doesn't equal causation and that holds true dod both bush and obama.  Just because bush was the guy in office when the meltdown happened doesn't mean he was responsible for it. Just because obama is in office during this recession doesn't mean he is the cause of it.  For all of our regulations programs and taxes we are still in a capitalistic framework where the ongoings of the economic sector are largely the result of the actions of private enterprise.
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« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2012, 04:01:54 PM »

Not only that, I disagree his second term was bad, it was only about the 3 or so months of his last term before leaving office. As far as his so called "financial mess". The last 6of his eight years he had a democratic congress. Libs hate hearing it.

So you want the wars but dont wanna pay for them?

Typical welfare leech!!
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