Top 5 reasons why movies today really do suck.

[MikMaq]

1) foreign market is bigger than domestic, meaning writers can't write shit, unless some dude with broken english understands it.

2) the rating system means, we have to dumb shit down for kids, because we have to pretend that kids won't hear about sex until there 13th birthday.

3) CGI, means that there is no need for a film to have anything cool in it. Be it, fights, shoot outs, chase scenes, landscapes, extra's or anything else that make a bad movie bearable.

4) movie's today spend more money on advertising than on the actual film, meaning it's impossible for low cost films to compete with the shit made for kids and foreigners.

5) Anyone with actual taste in movies, knows how to steal it. Meaning unless a film is made for idiots, it won't get viewership.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Says a guy with a screenshot of Prometheus for his avatar.

[Shockwave]

Says a guy with a screenshot of Prometheus for his avatar.

Fuck you sir, I enjoyed Prometheus.

[MikMaq]

Says a guy with a screenshot of Prometheus for his avatar.

Lol whatever dude you know I'm spot on the money.

[doriancutlerman]

Yeah compared to all the other shit these days it wasn't too bad.

And that's when you factor in how bad the studio's hijacked the film.

Eh, it was OK.  It raised more questions than it answered, which was probably Sir Scott's intent from the beginning.  E.g., why do the Engineers hate modern humans so much as to A, ready a ship 2 millenia ago to come exterminate us; and B, why was the one brought out of cryosleep such a rampaging madman?  Did the droid say something wrong?  

What I don't understand about the flick is that the ancient Engineers left Mankind with celestial clues worldwide, and all of those lead to coordinates for what amounted to be a WMD testing ground planet.  When we had the means to reach LV-228 (?), did they mean to test us and see if we could survive a virtual obstacle course of nasty alien difficulties?  That might make sense apart from the fact one of those horseshoe ships was bound for Earth and loaded with black goo around the time the Roman Empire peaked. 

Then there's the whole question of Weyland's daughter, droid or no?  In one scene, if you look very carefully, Charlize's character was exhaling smoke on the Prometheus' bridge.  Some of the humans in the Aliensverse smoke, but we never see droids smoke, ever. 

I say Charlize's character was human.  I also don't see a droid worrying about "staying home to argue over" who should be in charge of Weyland-Yutani after the old man croaked.

[Shockwave]

Eh, it was OK.  It raised more questions than it answered, which was probably Sir Scott's intent from the beginning.  E.g., why do the Engineers hate modern humans so much as to A, ready a ship 2 millenia ago to come exterminate us; and B, why was the one brought out of cryosleep such a rampaging madman?  Did the droid say something wrong?  

What I don't understand about the flick is that the ancient Engineers left Mankind with celestial clues worldwide, and all of those lead to coordinates for what amounted to be a WMD testing ground planet.  When we had the means to reach LV-228 (?), did they mean to test us and see if we could survive a virtual obstacle course of nasty alien difficulties?  That might make sense apart from the fact one of those horseshoe ships was bound for Earth and loaded with black goo around the time the Roman Empire peaked.    

Supposedly they hate us because they sent us an emissary to help guide our evolution, and we killed him. We knew him as Jesus. Being dead serious here. Scott said he left it out of this flick because he didn't want it to get to religious before the sequel or some shit.

Anyway, the Engineers decided that we suck, and were going to send a military ship loaded with their biological weapons to wipe us out, as they saw us as a failed experiment at creation, but they had an accident at the base where the biological weapon broke containment and fucked them up, allowing humanity to survive on without them.

Supposedly the robot told the engineer that the old man had come to him trying to find a way to cheat death, which is an insult to them, since one of their own sacrificed his life in order to create humanity.

[cephissus]

Supposedly they hate us because they sent us an emissary to help guide our evolution, and we killed him. We knew him as Jesus. Being dead serious here. Scott said he left it out of this flick because he didn't want it to get to religious before the sequel or some shit.

hahaha this would have been unspeakably awesome

[Palpatine Q]

Supposedly they hate us because they sent us an emissary to help guide our evolution, and we killed him. We knew him as Jesus. Being dead serious here. Scott said he left it out of this flick because he didn't want it to get to religious before the sequel or some shit.

Anyway, the Engineers decided that we suck, and were going to send a military ship loaded with their biological weapons to wipe us out, as they saw us as a failed experiment at creation, but they had an accident at the base where the biological weapon broke containment and fucked them up, allowing humanity to survive on without them.

Supposedly the robot told the engineer that the old man had come to him trying to find a way to cheat death, which is an insult to them, since one of their own sacrificed his life in order to create humanity.

I liked the Movie, it didn't suck...but it would have been a hell of a lot better with this info IN the movie. I understand a director wanting to challenge an audience and not spoon feed them everything, but a linear plot is something we shouldn't have to make up in our head

[BayGBM]

Says a guy with a screenshot of Prometheus for his avatar.

Ouch! 

[daddy8ball]

Movies exist for one reason: To make money.

They don't exist to illustrate great writing. Or to further the art of film making. (I'm talking about big budget films here.)

Making a movie costs many millions of dollars. Into the hundreds of millions these days.

They will make what they think the people will buy.

That's why you have sequels, remakes, and reboots. The audience has been proven and they can bank on it.

There are PLENTY of GREAT movies out there that you will NEVER see just because they will never get funded. I dabbled in screenwriting for a number of years and tried to sell movies to Hollywood.  I've read a LOT of screenplays that are better than 99.999% of the shit you see in the movies that will never see the light of day. Sad, really.

[the trainer]

As long as there is a big strong muscle man in the movie i consider it to be good.

[cephissus]

Movies exist for one reason: To make money.

They don't exist to illustrate great writing. Or to further the art of film making. (I'm talking about big budget films here.)

oh brother... movies exist for one reason: people make them.  money is the main consideration by far, yes, but there are others too.

and I guess avatar didnt "further the art of filmmaking" despite featuring groundbreaking CGI.  nor did Spiderman or Batman Begins "further the art of filmmaking" despite opening the floodgates for superhero movies that are about 1000x more enjoyable than any that came before.

[The True Adonis]

1) foreign market is bigger than domestic, meaning writers can't write shit, unless some dude with broken english understands it.

2) the rating system means, we have to dumb shit down for kids, because we have to pretend that kids won't hear about sex until there 13th birthday.

3) CGI, means that there is no need for a film to have anything cool in it. Be it, fights, shoot outs, chase scenes, landscapes, extra's or anything else that make a bad movie bearable.

4) movie's today spend more money on advertising than on the actual film, meaning it's impossible for low cost films to compete with the shit made for kids and foreigners.

5) Anyone with actual taste in movies, knows how to steal it. Meaning unless a film is made for idiots, it won't get viewership.

Hey moron,

There are plenty of good movies out there, with clever writing (ever heard of Woody Allen).  The thing is though, you are too dumb to realize this.

[Archer77]

Audiences are dumb therefore movies are designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator.  Simple as that. There isn't a conspiracy here.

[daddy8ball]

oh brother... movies exist for one reason: people make them.  money is the main consideration by far, yes, but there are others too.

and I guess avatar didnt "further the art of filmmaking" despite featuring groundbreaking CGI.  nor did Spiderman or Batman Begins "further the art of filmmaking" despite opening the floodgates for superhero movies that are about 1000x more enjoyable than any that came before.

Anything that is new and novel will make money. That goes for CGI or the new Hobbit film with the upgraded frame rates.

Big studios make films to make money. You can moan "Oh brother" all day long but it's a fact.

[Nicademus]

Movies suck because America's best actors speak in a Australian or British accent in real life.

[MikMaq]

Hey moron,

There are plenty of good movies out there, with clever writing (ever heard of Woody Allen).  The thing is though, you are too dumb to realize this.

Blow me, dude whatever you wanna say, movies have gone seriously downhill in the last 20 years.
It's no magical formula it's due to changing times. All you gotta do is look at the biggest grossing films of twenty years ago and compare em to now, major changes.

And don't go pretending I'm some elitist against making money, I like good old pop corn flicks just like anyone else, but no matter what you like there's been a decline.

[daddy8ball]

Blow me, dude whatever you wanna say, movies have gone seriously downhill in the last 20 years.
It's no magical formula it's due to changing times. All you gotta do is look at the biggest grossing films of twenty years ago and compare em to now, major changes.

And don't go pretending I'm some elitist against making money, I like good old pop corn flicks just like anyone else, but no matter what you like there's been a decline.

Decline in what?
Here are the biggest grossing films 20 years ago (1992).
Wayne's World? LOL
1.
 
Aladdin
 
Disney
 
voices of Scott Weinger, Robin Williams, and Linda Larkin
 
Ron Clements and John Musker
 
$504,050,219
 
$28 million
 


2.
 
The Bodyguard
 
Warner Bros.
 
Kevin Costner and Whitney Houston
 
Mick Jackson
 
$410,945,720
 
N/A
 


3.
 
Home Alone 2: Lost in New York
 
Fox
 
Macaulay Culkin, Joe Pesci, Daniel Stern, Catherine O'Hara, Tim Curry, and John Heard
 
Chris Columbus
 
$358,994,850
 
$20 million
 


4.
 
Basic Instinct
 
TriStar
 
Michael Douglas, Sharon Stone, Jeanne Tripplehorn, and George Dzundza
 
Paul Verhoeven
 
$352,927,224
 
$49 million
 


5.
 
Lethal Weapon 3
 
Warner Bros.
 
Mel Gibson, Danny Glover, Joe Pesci, and Rene Russo
 
Richard Donner
 
$321,731,527
 
$35 million
 


6.
 
Batman Returns
 
Warner Bros.
 
Michael Keaton, Michelle Pfeiffer, Christopher Walken, Michael Gough, Pat Hingle, and Danny DeVito
 
Tim Burton
 
$266,822,354
 
$80 million
 


7.
 
A Few Good Men
 
Columbia
 
Tom Cruise, Demi Moore, Kevin Pollak, Kevin Bacon, Kiefer Sutherland, and Jack Nicholson,
 
Rob Reiner
 
$243,240,178
 
$40 million
 


8.
 
Sister Act
 
Touchstone
 
Whoopi Goldberg and Maggie Smith
 
Emile Ardolino
 
$231,605,150
 
N/A
 


9.
 
Bram Stoker's Dracula
 
Columbia
 
Gary Oldman, Winona Ryder, Keanu Reeves, Anthony Hopkins, Cary Elwes Richard E Grant Billy Campbell
 
Francis Ford Coppola
 
$215,862,692
 
$40 million
 


10.
 
Wayne's World
 
Paramount
 
Mike Myers and Dana Carvey

[The True Adonis]

Decline in what?
Here are the biggest grossing films 20 years ago (1992).
Wayne's World? LOL
1.
 
Aladdin
 
Disney
 
voices of Scott Weinger, Robin Williams, and Linda Larkin
 
Ron Clements and John Musker
 
$504,050,219
 
$28 million
 


2.
 
The Bodyguard
 
Warner Bros.
 
Kevin Costner and Whitney Houston
 
Mick Jackson
 
$410,945,720
 
N/A
 


3.
 
Home Alone 2: Lost in New York
 
Fox
 
Macaulay Culkin, Joe Pesci, Daniel Stern, Catherine O'Hara, Tim Curry, and John Heard
 
Chris Columbus
 
$358,994,850
 
$20 million
 


4.
 
Basic Instinct
 
TriStar
 
Michael Douglas, Sharon Stone, Jeanne Tripplehorn, and George Dzundza
 
Paul Verhoeven
 
$352,927,224
 
$49 million
 


5.
 
Lethal Weapon 3
 
Warner Bros.
 
Mel Gibson, Danny Glover, Joe Pesci, and Rene Russo
 
Richard Donner
 
$321,731,527
 
$35 million
 


6.
 
Batman Returns
 
Warner Bros.
 
Michael Keaton, Michelle Pfeiffer, Christopher Walken, Michael Gough, Pat Hingle, and Danny DeVito
 
Tim Burton
 
$266,822,354
 
$80 million
 


7.
 
A Few Good Men
 
Columbia
 
Tom Cruise, Demi Moore, Kevin Pollak, Kevin Bacon, Kiefer Sutherland, and Jack Nicholson,
 
Rob Reiner
 
$243,240,178
 
$40 million
 


8.
 
Sister Act
 
Touchstone
 
Whoopi Goldberg and Maggie Smith
 
Emile Ardolino
 
$231,605,150
 
N/A
 


9.
 
Bram Stoker's Dracula
 
Columbia
 
Gary Oldman, Winona Ryder, Keanu Reeves, Anthony Hopkins, Cary Elwes Richard E Grant Billy Campbell
 
Francis Ford Coppola
 
$215,862,692
 
$40 million
 


10.
 
Wayne's World
 
Paramount
 
Mike Myers and Dana Carvey

You just destroyed the resident retard. 

[MikMaq]

Decline in what?
Here are the biggest grossing films 20 years ago (1992).
Wayne's World? LOL
1.
 
Aladdin
 



2.
 
The Bodyguard
 



3.
 
Home Alone 2: Lost in New York
 

 


4.
 
Basic Instinct
 



5.
 
Lethal Weapon 3
 

 


6.
 
Batman Returns
 
 



7.
 
A Few Good Men

 

8.
 
Sister Act

 
9.
 
Bram Stoker's Dracula
 



10.
 
Wayne's World
 

Compared to now they're far preferable.

The only two on the list that would even list today are home alone, and aladin, and even then home alone, would have to be cgi'd to hell


1   Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows –
2   Transformers: Dark of the Moon
3   Pirates of the Caribbean:
4 twilight
5   Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol   Paramount
6   Kung Fu Panda 2
7   Fast Five   Universal   
8   The Hangover Part II   Warner Bros.   
9   The Smurfs
10   Cars 2   

Seriously are any of these suppose to be remotely good for an adult audience.

The only descent film on the list is MI, and compared to tom crusises old stuff it's a fucking joke.

[cephissus]

Anything that is new and novel will make money. That goes for CGI or the new Hobbit film with the upgraded frame rates.

Big studios make films to make money. You can moan "Oh brother" all day long but it's a fact.

what the hell are you talking about?  "anything new and novel will make money" LOL weren't you just talking about "tested audiences"?  what's the point of banking on a "sure thing" if "anything new and novel will make money"?

are great directors, actors, makeup artists, wardrobe people, computer artists, -- you know, the people who actually MAKE the movies -- incapable of thinking anything other than "HOW CAN I MAKE THE MOST MONEY???" every waking second?

it seems like you, and practically everyone else here, wants to portray the movie industry as some soulless money gobbling machine, as if people are purposefully trying to make bad movies in order to make the most money possible.  the reality is, people try to make the BEST movie possible WHILE STILL BEING PROFITABLE.  it's not that complicated.

[Nails]

Movies suck, for one Reason, the WRITING SUCKS


Bad Script = Bad Movie

GREAT SCRIPT = AWESOME MOVIE With unknown actors

[The True Adonis]

Compared to now they're far preferable.

The only two on the list that would even list today are home alone, and aladin, and even then home alone, would have to be cgi'd to hell


1   Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows –
2   Transformers: Dark of the Moon
3   Pirates of the Caribbean:
4 twilight
5   Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol   Paramount
6   Kung Fu Panda 2
7   Fast Five   Universal   
8   The Hangover Part II   Warner Bros.   
9   The Smurfs
10   Cars 2   

Seriously are any of these suppose to be remotely good for an adult audience.

The only descent film on the list is MI, and compared to tom crusises old stuff it's a fucking joke.

Why are you using ticket sales as your measuring stick for the content (quality) of a movie?

There are a ton of great movies out there.

[Voice of Doom]

Actually, movie studios make all sorts of movies for a variety of audiences.  Most of those lose money but garner critical acclaim, give young actors and directors experience and become tax write offs.  To recoup those losses, pay saleries, bonuses and stock yields, they bankroll the 'big movies' to the mass market during the summer.  Go look at the number of divisions a movie company has and what they produce each year.

[MikMaq]

You just destroyed the resident retard. 

oh Noh you diddent

I already set I'm expecting no fucking masterpieces, you can take a top ten of ever year before and after 93, and you'll see a marked decline.

Not all movies back than were perfect. But atleast there's a few that are ok.