Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?

[galeniko]

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[tbombz]

Obviously no one has any knowledge about the supernatural.  Why you pose these questions as if they somehow make the existence of the unknown less likely, is beyond me.

[PORKY]

Heaven is .......between women's legs 

[tbombz]

Exactly.  We don't know what we don't know. Lack of evidence is not proof of non existence.

[Radical Plato]

Exactly.  We don't know what we don't know. Lack of evidence is not proof of non existence.

Thank God the legal system isn't based on your ideology, I can just imagine Judge TBombz sending people to jail after discovering ZERO evidence for a crime, I can just see his sentencing statement "Well, it appears that their is zero evidence that you killed that man, but that doesn't mean that you didn't kill him, as lack of evidence is not proof that you didn't commit the crime".  Based on Tbombz philosophy, Santa Claus could possibly exist as their is a lack of evidence to prove he doesn't.  What a retard argument.  You can't HELP stupid.

Sounds like a convenient philosophy to BELIEVE WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU LIKE!  Kind of like the same make believe imaginary state children often find themselves in.

[Sherief Shalaby]

Galeniko,

Where did we come from?  Where did time, space, matter come from?  Where did energy come from?

If you found a computer in the woods, would you think it just grew out of the woods?  
If you look around this planet, and see design far more complicated than a computer, do you assume it grew here on its own?  


Sometimes you have to know where you came from before you can know where you are going.  Why ask about going to heaven, when you don't even know how you came to be here on earth...

welcome to islam bro.

kidding lol..

[Sherief Shalaby]

accoding to quran heaven is not in our space..  the solar system is just a small part in another much bigger we know nothing about in details..

[Radical Plato]

http://godisimaginary.com/

[chris-a]

http://godisimaginary.com/

great site.

i've mentioned this before, a few years' back when people were contemplating the afterlife on here...
i met someone (an adult), who, when he was around 10 or so, drowned, and died. he was swimming in a river, got hit/caught somehow on branches etc and went under and drowned.
he said everything just fizzled out and went to a tiny white dot in his brain, (much like an old black and white tv set being turned off) which then disappeared, ie the moment he died. there was no tunnel of white light, angels, st. peter, god, allah, any of those imaginary figures, not even his granny showed up to welcome him to the next plane - there was absolutely nothing.
he was resuccitated on the riverbank after a few minutes, so he was most definitely dead for a period of time.

kinda sums up the whole non-existance of heaven, afterlife, fucking virgins for all eternity bullshit for me really....

quite cool to have met someone who'd actually died tho  

[James28]

Galeniko,

Where did we come from?  Where did time, space, matter come from?  Where did energy come from?

If you found a computer in the woods, would you think it just grew out of the woods?  
If you look around this planet, and see design far more complicated than a computer, do you assume it grew here on its own?  


Sometimes you have to know where you came from before you can know where you are going.  Why ask about going to heaven, when you don't even know how you came to be here on earth...

Sky Gods made it all right?

[Parker]

ok lets see, it doesnt seem to be on earth.

now, outside the earth, in the universe, its not habitable, its either too cold or too hot in space, depending where you are.

another thing is, it requires physical death to get there afaik, so how the ones of muslim faith think they will benefit from the virgins promised to them?

 

A dimension perhaps? One of the supposed 11 dimensions.
 or maybe consult...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akashic_records

[James28]

oh we do know about the universe.

so, who knows, then?

are we supposed to believe in something that nobody , not even 1 people, knows about?

would you buy a used car from the guy asking you to believe in such?

btw i read the qu ran when i was in prison, i read all the religious books there, for balance and out of sheer boredom.

the muslims all know where the kaba is and where to deposit some gold, but noone knows where the promised place is?

sounds like a rip off scheme.

This cannot be argued as neither side have facts on their side. The crazies like Coach use disillusions, the more moderates ask for faith. We ask for facts. They have no facts, we have no faith, no argument to be made.

[stingray]

ok lets see, it doesnt seem to be on earth.

now, outside the earth, in the universe, its not habitable, its either too cold or too hot in space, depending where you are.

another thing is, it requires physical death to get there afaik, so how the ones of muslim faith think they will benefit from the virgins promised to them?

 

Talking from a muslim perspective, in heaven there is no heat/cold/temperature regulation.

Nobody gets sick there,you dont get old, no diseases there, no worries or sadness there,people dont sweat, people dont go the toilet, it will be a perfect place which no man can ever imagine.It will be a place where you can eat/drink and have sex for all of eternity in which you will never ever die in.

Not to sure what you mean by the virgin part.

[cephissus]

Galeniko,

Where did we come from?  Where did time, space, matter come from?  Where did energy come from?

If you found a computer in the woods, would you think it just grew out of the woods?  
If you look around this planet, and see design far more complicated than a computer, do you assume it grew here on its own?  


Sometimes you have to know where you came from before you can know where you are going.  Why ask about going to heaven, when you don't even know how you came to be here on earth...

where you been, man?

[OTHstrong]

you forgot to list the just as bad comparo "you dont see the air, but you do believe its there, sinc youre breathing".

where did we come from?i came from mom and dad.

time space and matter are very well explained so far, but no sign of heaven.

computer in the woods?nothing special, its called littering.

I beg to differ.

The concept of the beginning of time or what was before time began goes against the law of physics, there is no rational explanation for this whatsoever.

 Matter at one point in either way had to be produced or it was there in an infinite regression, both equally do not make sense.

Space is expanding, we know this to be true so what do you call what it is expanding into. No rational explanation can be given for this either. It can not be expanding into more space cause the vary definition of space has to include space itself to be an expanding scenario.

These are mysteries questions of the origin of space, time and, matter that man IMHO will never be able answer logically, it is very weird to say the least. Does this prove God, absolutely not but it does not disprove God either.

[lovemonkey]

I beg to differ.

The concept of the beginning of time or what was before time began goes against the law of physics, there is no rational explanation for this whatsoever.

 Matter at one point in either way had to be produced or it was there in an infinite regression, both equally do not make sense.

Space is expanding, we know this to be true so what do you call what it is expanding into. No rational explanation can be given for this either. It can not be expanding into more space cause the vary definition of space has to include space itself to be an expanding scenario.

These are mysteries questions of the origin of space, time and, matter that man IMHO will never be able answer logically, it is very weird to say the least. Does this prove God, absolutely not but it does not disprove God either.

You should definitely read Lawrence Krauss book "A Universe from Nothing". It's actually a pretty exciting read. It turns out, oddly as it may sound, that we live in a universe that contains exactly zero energy, and can therefore have been "created" out of quantum nothingness. It is the best attempt at explaining the origin of the universe I've seen so far and it's from a SCIENTIFIC point of view, believe it or not.

http://www.amazon.com/Universe-Nothing-There-Something-Rather/dp/145162445X

[OTHstrong]

You should definitely read Lawrence Krauss book "A Universe from Nothing". It's actually a pretty exciting read. It turns out, oddly as it may sound, that we live in a universe that contains exactly zero energy, and can therefore have been "created" out of quantum nothingness. It is the best attempt at explaining the origin of the universe I've seen so far and it's from a SCIENTIFIC point of view, believe it or not.

http://www.amazon.com/Universe-Nothing-There-Something-Rather/dp/145162445X

OK I will give it a go. I will not judge it as I have not read it yet but just on the description you provided, that explanation is not rational. Like I said I will give it a read as I enjoy reading this type of stuff anyway and sense I don`t work in the snow time I have spare time.

[OTHstrong]

You should definitely read Lawrence Krauss book "A Universe from Nothing". It's actually a pretty exciting read. It turns out, oddly as it may sound, that we live in a universe that contains exactly zero energy, and can therefore have been "created" out of quantum nothingness. It is the best attempt at explaining the origin of the universe I've seen so far and it's from a SCIENTIFIC point of view, believe it or not.

http://www.amazon.com/Universe-Nothing-There-Something-Rather/dp/145162445X

I don`t really want to buy it, is there a site I can read it from or is it on youtube?

[WOOO]

heaven is at the bottom of the first 10 beers...

hell is at the bottom of the 20th

[lovemonkey]

I don`t really want to buy it, is there a site I can read it from or is it on youtube?

The book is based on a series of lectures he has given over the years. The lectures can be found on youtube. Be aware though that the lectures only summarizes the content in the book given the time constraints.

[OTHstrong]

The book is based on a series of lectures he has given over the years. The lectures can be found on youtube. Be aware though that the lectures only summarizes the content in the book given the time constraints.

screw it, I will buy it as you are not the first to mention it, I keep hearing about it. I will also check out the youtube lectures. Thanks

[WOOO]

heaven is at the bottom of the first 10 beers...

hell is at the bottom of the 20th

beer

that is all

[OTHstrong]

heaven is at the bottom of the first 15 shots of whiskey...

hell is at the bottom of the 30th

fixed 

[Mr Nobody]

The Twilight Zone.

[WOOO]

fixed 

there are many paths to both