Getbig Bodybuilding, Figure and Fitness Forums
July 22, 2014, 06:29:45 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
 
   Home   Help Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 7   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: I have some thoughts on slavery.  (Read 4761 times)
Shizzo
Time Out
Getbig V
*
Gender: Male
Posts: 20584


Do you remember your Getbig son Ron?


View Profile
« on: December 17, 2012, 08:57:55 AM »

Sure it was an aweful period in American history, but was it out of the ordinary?  Civilizations have had slaves since the dawn of man (usually through the spoils of war). Even Africa actively participated in enslaving, and selling they're own people.  Isn't paying an illegal alien chump change, modern day slavery?  Sure most slaves were brought to America against thier will, but you should blame the ruling African elite of that time for profiting off of they're own people.  

I end this with a question:  Shouldn't African Americans point at least some of the blame on the people who allowed, and profited on the slave trade?
Report to moderator   Logged
TrueBB93
Getbig III
***
Posts: 739


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2012, 09:00:57 AM »

Sure it was an aweful period in American history, but was it out of the ordinary?  Civilizations have had slaves since the dawn of man (usually through the spoils of war). Even Africa actively participated in enslaving, and selling they're own people.  Isn't paying an illegal alien chump change, modern day slavery?  Sure most slaves were brought to America against thier wiil, but you should blame the ruling African elite of that time for profiting off of they're own people.  

I end this with a question:  Shouldn't African Americans point at least some of the blame on the people who allowed, and profited on the slave trade?

the blame diffently dosent just land on the owner your right, although i dont think hiring mexican for change is the same as slavery though.
Report to moderator   Logged
Kwon_2
Getbig V
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 22861


Basilie Bluestars of Peace


View Profile
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2012, 09:01:33 AM »

I end this with a question:  Shouldn't African Americans point at least some of the blame on the people who allowed, and profited on the slave trade?

They just blame "whitey"
Report to moderator   Logged
The True Adonis
Getbig V
*****
Posts: 40961


"We Will Correct All This."


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2012, 09:02:43 AM »

Great Great Grandpa always said that they should be grateful that they were able to be sold to the United States, because at the time, living in Africa as a slave, was far worse.  Sometimes he would buy straight off the boat and treat them to a nice steak dinner with Apple Cobbler, something they would never have had in Africa.
Report to moderator   Logged

E
TrueBB93
Getbig III
***
Posts: 739


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2012, 09:04:20 AM »

Great Great Grandpa always said that they should be grateful that they were able to be sold to the United States, because at the time, living in Africa as a slave, was far worse.  Sometimes he would buy straight off the boat and treat them to a nice steak dinner with Apple Cobbler, something they would never have had in Africa.

was that before or after the lashes?
Report to moderator   Logged
kh300
Getbig IV
****
Gender: Male
Posts: 3897


team no steroids just old fashioned lifting


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2012, 09:07:39 AM »

I don't get why slavery has such a bad rap
Report to moderator   Logged
Shizzo
Time Out
Getbig V
*
Gender: Male
Posts: 20584


Do you remember your Getbig son Ron?


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2012, 09:07:59 AM »

Great Great Grandpa always said that they should be grateful that they were able to be sold to the United States, because at the time, living in Africa as a slave, was far worse.  Sometimes he would buy straight off the boat and treat them to a nice steak dinner with Apple Cobbler, something they would never have had in Africa.
People do seem to forget that Africans had slaves themselves.  People need to realise that slavery in America, was just continuing (albeit a fading one) the tradition of every nation, on every continent, that ever existed.  Americans get a bad rap.
Report to moderator   Logged
Roger Bacon
Getbig V
*****
Posts: 20231


Roger Bacon tries to be witty and fails


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2012, 09:09:03 AM »

Sure it was an aweful period in American history, but was it out of the ordinary?  Civilizations have had slaves since the dawn of man (usually through the spoils of war). Even Africa actively participated in enslaving, and selling they're own people.  Isn't paying an illegal alien chump change, modern day slavery?  Sure most slaves were brought to America against thier will, but you should blame the ruling African elite of that time for profiting off of they're own people.  

I end this with a question:  Shouldn't African Americans point at least some of the blame on the people who allowed, and profited on the slave trade?

I think it's sickening how schools try to teach kids that their ancestors were monsters.

For the time, they really weren't doing anything they could possibly know to be wrong.
Report to moderator   Logged

Shizzo
Time Out
Getbig V
*
Gender: Male
Posts: 20584


Do you remember your Getbig son Ron?


View Profile
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2012, 09:11:15 AM »

I don't get why slavery has such a bad rap
It's about the political correctness (bullshit) of todays societies.  I'm willing to bet that African Americans were treated far worse in the 50's and 60's than at anytime before the Emancipation Proclamation.
Report to moderator   Logged
Onetimehard
Competitors II
Getbig V
******
Gender: Male
Posts: 13576


Jasher


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2012, 09:17:01 AM »

Slavery is the biggest mis-conception in the history of mankind. Thank hollywood movies for this, ya the slave's dream is to be set free, Bullshit.

 The reality is if ten slaves got set free 9 would stay, why? cause their family is being fed, they have shelter and protection.
Report to moderator   Logged
bass generator
Getbig IV
****
Posts: 2327


Getbig!


View Profile
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2012, 09:17:46 AM »

Some stinking gypsies have just been jailed over here for keeping slaves they were made to work for nothing and starved, beaten and lived in freezing unheated caravans and had to shit in buckets. one poor fucker had been therw for years.
Report to moderator   Logged
The True Adonis
Getbig V
*****
Posts: 40961


"We Will Correct All This."


View Profile
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2012, 09:18:37 AM »

We had one President of the United States who was in the same class of slaves and treated as such.  Andrew Johnson.  He was bonded to a man called James Selby in Raleigh, NC who made Andrew Johnson become a tailor.  He was legally bound to Mr. Selby until Andrew turned 21.  Andrew Johnson ran away and J. Selby sent out a "Slave Bill" with a reward for anyone who would return Andrew Johnson.  Johnson eventually came back and tried to buy his way out of bondage but was unable to do so.  He was forced to move West.

Andrew Johnson`s boyhood home is located on a Jewish Plantation in Raleigh, Mordecai Plantation Manor.

Here is the Jewish Plantation.




And here is Andrew Johnson`s boyhood home on the Plantation.

Report to moderator   Logged

E
Lungrenisback
Getbig V
*****
Posts: 5099


Team Canada!!!


View Profile
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2012, 09:25:02 AM »

I think it's sickening how schools try to teach kids that their ancestors were monsters.

For the time, they really weren't doing anything they could possibly know to be wrong.
The fuck how are you people this fucking stupid.

This ain`t no PC shit, fuck are you folk ignornant.

People knew slavery was fucking bad, the thing was there was bad slave owners and there was good. The bad scared the shit out of the good guys.

It didn`t mean slavery made sense or they didn`t know their was problems with it, simply no one knew how to stop it.
Report to moderator   Logged
El Diablo Blanco
Getbig V
*****
Posts: 16968


Nom Nom Nom Nom


View Profile
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2012, 09:26:07 AM »

Without slavery would there be so many blacks making millions of dollars playing sports?
Report to moderator   Logged
Lungrenisback
Getbig V
*****
Posts: 5099


Team Canada!!!


View Profile
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2012, 09:26:43 AM »

I don't get why slavery has such a bad rap
Hmm for people that whine and bitch like little children about PC shit, something makes me think you wouldn`t last long bub.
Report to moderator   Logged
Vince G, CSN MFT
Competitors II
Getbig V
******
Gender: Male
Posts: 13942



View Profile WWW
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2012, 09:27:09 AM »

I don't get why slavery has such a bad rap

You would have to ask the slaves..... Roll Eyes
Report to moderator   Logged

A
The True Adonis
Getbig V
*****
Posts: 40961


"We Will Correct All This."


View Profile
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2012, 09:27:56 AM »

You would have to ask the slaves..... Roll Eyes
And the answer would depend on which ones you asked.
Report to moderator   Logged

E
Onetimehard
Competitors II
Getbig V
******
Gender: Male
Posts: 13576


Jasher


View Profile
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2012, 09:28:00 AM »

The fuck how are you people this fucking stupid.

This ain`t no PC shit, fuck are you folk ignornant.

People knew slavery was fucking bad, the thing was there was bad slave owners and there was good. The bad scared the shit out of the good guys.

It didn`t mean slavery made sense or they didn`t know their was problems with it, simply no one knew how to stop it.
This is where you are dead wrong. When every nation on the planet is doing so, it is the norm, no one knew it was wrong.
Report to moderator   Logged
Lungrenisback
Getbig V
*****
Posts: 5099


Team Canada!!!


View Profile
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2012, 09:28:44 AM »

Slavery is the biggest mis-conception in the history of mankind. Thank hollywood movies for this, ya the slave's dream is to be set free, Bullshit.

 The reality is if ten slaves got set free 9 would stay, why? cause their family is being fed, they have shelter and protection.
Your leaving out the part where blacks couldn`t do shit when free. Slavery wasn`t a one dimensional concept where it was simply a matter of having chains.

It was about the rape of an entire group of people.
Report to moderator   Logged
Lungrenisback
Getbig V
*****
Posts: 5099


Team Canada!!!


View Profile
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2012, 09:29:30 AM »

This is where you are dead wrong. When every nation on the planet is doing so, it is the norm, no one knew it was wrong.
Every nation we know has child molestors does not make it somehow right.

Report to moderator   Logged
The True Adonis
Getbig V
*****
Posts: 40961


"We Will Correct All This."


View Profile
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2012, 09:29:38 AM »

Your leaving out the part where blacks couldn`t do shit when free. Slavery wasn`t a one dimensional concept where it was simply a matter of having chains.

It was about the rape of an entire group of people.
At least in the South, Free Blacks could own slaves.
Report to moderator   Logged

E
Onetimehard
Competitors II
Getbig V
******
Gender: Male
Posts: 13576


Jasher


View Profile
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2012, 09:30:26 AM »

Every nation we know has child molestors does not make it somehow right.


Keep it real brother, you know that argument is not comparable
Report to moderator   Logged
Lungrenisback
Getbig V
*****
Posts: 5099


Team Canada!!!


View Profile
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2012, 09:31:16 AM »

At least in the South, Free Blacks could own slaves.
please for the love of god, don`t use your asocialism to devalue an entire group of people.


Blacks had tons of theorectical outs they simply did not work.
Report to moderator   Logged
The True Adonis
Getbig V
*****
Posts: 40961


"We Will Correct All This."


View Profile
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2012, 09:32:53 AM »

A black man, John Carruthers Stanly was the largest slaveholder in Craven County, NC.

Report to moderator   Logged

E
Lungrenisback
Getbig V
*****
Posts: 5099


Team Canada!!!


View Profile
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2012, 09:33:44 AM »

Keep it real brother, you know that argument is not comparable
The point is, america was suppose to be some great democracy, where people are not subjigated to the same crap that was found in the old world.

People didn`t fight for freedom in america and not realize how bad the old world power structure was.

People simply used the age old nonsense of what can I do about it, whenever something bad happens.


Report to moderator   Logged
Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 7   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Theme created by Egad Community. Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.16 | SMF © 2011, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!