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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2012, 12:13:46 PM »
Next Up, Democrats ban Call of Duty.

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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2012, 12:14:41 PM »
Next Up, Democrats ban Call of Duty.


They should ban irresponsible parents like the morther here

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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2012, 12:20:49 PM »
and the technology at the time the 2nd amendment was written

If someone had shown up at the Continental Congress with an assault rifle and wiped out 30 + people in 5 minutes  I think things might be different today

I see no way that anyone has the right to an assault rifle, or a high magazine clip, etc...




Do you even know what an "Assault" Rifle is?

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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2012, 12:21:58 PM »
Do you even know what an "Assault" Rifle is?

Anything that looks scary. 

A 10/22 is an assault weapon according to the liberal babies. 

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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2012, 12:27:04 PM »
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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2012, 12:27:36 PM »
Criteria of an assault weapon
 
Assault weapon (semi-automatic) refers primarily (but not exclusively) to firearms that possess the cosmetic features of an assault rifle (which are fully-automatic). Actually possessing the operational features, such as 'full-auto', is not required for classification as an assault weapon; merely the possession of cosmetic features is enough to warrant such classification as an assault weapon. Semi-automatic firearms, when fired, automatically extract the spent cartridge casing and load the next cartridge into the chamber, ready to fire again; they do not fire automatically like a machine gun; rather, only one round is fired with each trigger pull.[2]
 
In the former U.S. law, the legal term assault weapon included certain specific semi-automatic firearm models by name (e.g., Colt AR-15, TEC-9, non-select-fire AK-47s produced by three manufacturers, and Uzis) and other semi-automatic firearms because they possess a minimum set of cosmetic features from the following list of features:
 




A semi-automatic Yugoslavian M70AB2 rifle.




An Intratec TEC-DC9 with 32-round magazine; a semi-automatic pistol formerly classified as an Assault Weapon under Federal Law. Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following: Folding or telescoping stock
 Pistol grip
 Bayonet mount
 Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
 Grenade launcher (more precisely, a muzzle device that enables launching or firing rifle grenades, though this applies only to muzzle mounted grenade launchers and not those mounted externally).
 Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following: Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
 Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
 Barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold
 Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
 A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.
 Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following: Folding or telescoping stock
 Pistol grip
 Fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds
 Detachable magazine.

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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2012, 12:29:16 PM »
LOL!!!!

So because it looks scary - that makes it an assault weapon.   LOL

Ever heard of a 10/22?

Criteria of an assault weapon
 
Assault weapon (semi-automatic) refers primarily (but not exclusively) to firearms that possess the cosmetic features of an assault rifle (which are fully-automatic). Actually possessing the operational features, such as 'full-auto', is not required for classification as an assault weapon; merely the possession of cosmetic features is enough to warrant such classification as an assault weapon. Semi-automatic firearms, when fired, automatically extract the spent cartridge casing and load the next cartridge into the chamber, ready to fire again; they do not fire automatically like a machine gun; rather, only one round is fired with each trigger pull.[2]
 
In the former U.S. law, the legal term assault weapon included certain specific semi-automatic firearm models by name (e.g., Colt AR-15, TEC-9, non-select-fire AK-47s produced by three manufacturers, and Uzis) and other semi-automatic firearms because they possess a minimum set of cosmetic features from the following list of features:
 




A semi-automatic Yugoslavian M70AB2 rifle.




An Intratec TEC-DC9 with 32-round magazine; a semi-automatic pistol formerly classified as an Assault Weapon under Federal Law. Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following: Folding or telescoping stock
 Pistol grip
 Bayonet mount
 Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
 Grenade launcher (more precisely, a muzzle device that enables launching or firing rifle grenades, though this applies only to muzzle mounted grenade launchers and not those mounted externally).
 Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following: Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
 Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
 Barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold
 Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
 A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.
 Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following: Folding or telescoping stock
 Pistol grip
 Fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds
 Detachable magazine.


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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2012, 12:31:10 PM »
LOL!!!!

So because it looks scary - that makes it an assault weapon.   LOL

Ever heard of a 10/22?

ROFLMAO exactly.  They have no clue what they are talking about.  The word is scary to them and thats it.  A Pistol or shotgun can easily be more deadly than an "Assault" rifle.

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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2012, 12:35:53 PM »
you don't need a gun when you know your simple pointers of self defense





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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2012, 12:41:13 PM »
The 2nd amendment was intended to equalize the balance between the citizens and the government, ensuring that the government wouldn't attempt to take complete control from the citizens.

As 333 is so fond of saying, if the British were using AR's, so would the Colonists. Trying to discount the 2nd amendment because of the period of time it was written in is about the dumbest fucking argument I've ever heard.

Seriously?  Someone else said that here.  Not that i have researched it that much, but was that reason for the 2nd amendment?

I though it was to help maintain the Minute man army.  Or just a basic right. 

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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2012, 12:42:29 PM »
Do people here deny that the threat of a armed homeowner helps deter home invasion and robbery?

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« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2012, 12:43:41 PM »
Seriously?  Someone else said that here.  Not that i have researched it that much, but was that reason for the 2nd amendment?

I though it was to help maintain the Minute man army.  Or just a basic right. 
Both.

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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2012, 12:44:17 PM »
Do people here deny that the threat of a armed homeowner helps deter home invasion and robbery?
They would be stupid if they did.

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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2012, 12:45:15 PM »
 In District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.

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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2012, 12:47:18 PM »
In District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.

sure, but was the amendment designed for us to protect ourselves from the government?  I think not. 

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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #40 on: December 18, 2012, 12:48:27 PM »
sure, but was the amendment designed for us to protect ourselves from the government?  I think not. 
Uh,


    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State:

    A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #41 on: December 18, 2012, 12:51:41 PM »
Uh,


    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State:

    A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

I guess so then.  It can be read that way.

Seems silly though (in the context of modern war), but yeah, I am for it.

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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #42 on: December 18, 2012, 12:52:10 PM »
sure, but was the amendment designed for us to protect ourselves from the government?  I think not. 

iT WAS ENACTED TO ALLOW THE CITIZENS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM A TYRANT, FOREGIN OR DOMESTIC 

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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #43 on: December 18, 2012, 12:52:52 PM »
A foundation of American political thought during the Revolutionary period was the well justified concern about political corruption and governmental tyranny. Even the federalists, fending off their opponents who accused them of creating an oppressive regime, were careful to acknowledge the risks of tyranny. Against that backdrop, the framers saw the personal right to bear arms as a potential check against tyranny. Theodore Sedgwick of Massachusetts expressed this sentiment by declaring that it is "a chimerical idea to suppose that a country like this could ever be enslaved . . . Is it possible . . . that an army could be raised for the purpose of enslaving themselves or their brethren? or, if raised whether they could subdue a nation of freemen, who know how to prize liberty and who have arms in their hands?" Noah Webster similarly argued:

    Before a standing army can rule the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.

George Mason argued the importance of the militia and right to bear arms by reminding his compatriots of England's efforts "to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them . . . by totally disusing and neglecting the militia." He also clarified that under prevailing practice the militia included all people, rich and poor. "Who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers." Because all were members of the militia, all enjoyed the right to individually bear arms to serve therein.

The framers thought the personal right to bear arms to be a paramount right by which other rights could be protected. Therefore, writing after the ratification of the Constitution, but before the election of the first Congress, James Monroe included "the right to keep and bear arms" in a list of basic "human rights", which he proposed to be added to the Constitution.

Patrick Henry, in the Virginia ratification convention June 5, 1788, eloquently argued for the dual rights to arms and resistance to oppression:

    Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined

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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #44 on: December 18, 2012, 01:03:56 PM »
iT WAS ENACTED TO ALLOW THE CITIZENS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM A TYRANT, FOREGIN OR DOMESTIC 

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I guess so then.  It can be read that way.

Seems silly though (in the context of modern war), but yeah, I am for it.

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« Reply #45 on: December 18, 2012, 01:04:31 PM »
A foundation of American political thought during the Revolutionary period was the well justified concern about political corruption and governmental tyranny. Even the federalists, fending off their opponents who accused them of creating an oppressive regime, were careful to acknowledge the risks of tyranny. Against that backdrop, the framers saw the personal right to bear arms as a potential check against tyranny. Theodore Sedgwick of Massachusetts expressed this sentiment by declaring that it is "a chimerical idea to suppose that a country like this could ever be enslaved . . . Is it possible . . . that an army could be raised for the purpose of enslaving themselves or their brethren? or, if raised whether they could subdue a nation of freemen, who know how to prize liberty and who have arms in their hands?" Noah Webster similarly argued:

    Before a standing army can rule the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.

George Mason argued the importance of the militia and right to bear arms by reminding his compatriots of England's efforts "to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them . . . by totally disusing and neglecting the militia." He also clarified that under prevailing practice the militia included all people, rich and poor. "Who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers." Because all were members of the militia, all enjoyed the right to individually bear arms to serve therein.

The framers thought the personal right to bear arms to be a paramount right by which other rights could be protected. Therefore, writing after the ratification of the Constitution, but before the election of the first Congress, James Monroe included "the right to keep and bear arms" in a list of basic "human rights", which he proposed to be added to the Constitution.

Patrick Henry, in the Virginia ratification convention June 5, 1788, eloquently argued for the dual rights to arms and resistance to oppression:

    Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined

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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #46 on: December 18, 2012, 01:56:28 PM »
Do people here deny that the threat of a armed homeowner helps deter home invasion and robbery?

Nope.

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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #47 on: December 18, 2012, 02:07:34 PM »
are IED's legal in this country?

I see no need and definitely no right for high capacity clips

can't you get by with 3 or 4 regular clips

Lulz that you're ok with 3 10-round magazines but not ok with 1 30-round magazine, cause it somehow makes a difference. 30 rounds is 30 rounds.

It takes a whopping 3-5 seconds to do a magazine switch depending on how good you are. I'm sure those 3-5 seconds would have made a huge difference in the survival rate at Sandy Hook.  ::)

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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2012, 02:09:26 PM »
unless the repubs in congress cave, there is 100% nothing to worry about.

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Re: Democrats' first target - Hi-Cap Mags.
« Reply #49 on: December 18, 2012, 02:11:45 PM »
Anything that looks scary.  

A 10/22 is an assault weapon according to the liberal babies.  

Meanwhile, some of these same liberal babies promote hip-hop music with such lyrics as.....

Who's that creeping in my window? POOOOOW!!! Nobody, now!" - Goodie Mob, "Cell Therapy" (featuring current judge of "The Voice", Cee-Lo Green)