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Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« on: December 19, 2012, 09:59:29 AM »




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 Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON — President Obama said Wednesday that he will submit broad, new gun control proposals to Congress no later than January and will commit the power of his office to overcoming political opposition in the wake of last week’s school massacre.
 
The president’s pledge comes as key House Republicans restated their firm opposition to enacting any new limits on firearms or ammunition, setting up the possibility of a philosophical clash over the Second Amendment early in Mr. Obama’s second term.
 
“This time, the words need to lead to action,” Mr. Obama said, referring to outrage to previous mass shootings that eventually led to little or no legislative changes. But he said that the proposals would not be just about weapons.
 
“We are going to need to work on making access to mental healthcare at least as easy as access to guns,” he said.
 

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/20/us/politics/obama-to-give-congress-plan-on-gun-control-within-weeks.html


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From live press conference on MSNBC.

President Obama announces 'real reform' on guns immediately.

Calls out Congress for not allowing a new head of the ATF for Six Years.

Not a commission to announce results in six months. The President will be pushing for action in the new Congress.
 







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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2012, 10:03:32 AM »
Never let a crisis go to waste. 

Nothing better than to ram through an agenda in the wake of a tradegy. 


fuck Obama and his cult of idiots.  All of them

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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2012, 10:05:59 AM »
take your guns away  :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2012, 10:11:20 AM »
take your guns away  :D :D :D :D :D

Come and get them. 

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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2012, 01:12:29 PM »
obama can wipe his ass with it


congres soriginates laws not president



someone print a copy of constituion for this goon



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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2012, 03:57:29 PM »
This just in reps to gain sits in both house and senate in 2 years

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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2012, 04:12:16 PM »
this just in romney ahead in the polls,how did that work for you  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2012, 04:16:23 PM »
this just in romney ahead in the polls,how did that work for you  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Lol one has nothing to do with the other but if that comforts you then run with it


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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2012, 04:17:52 PM »
going by your predictions  :D :D :D :D

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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2012, 02:53:49 AM »
Where is Al Doggity to come in and tell us we are imagining things?  Nothing to see here folks.  Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. 

At this point even Hellen Keller would be able to hear the Democrats beating the drum for gun control.  To deny that it isn't happening makes you a fool and/or a liar. 

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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2012, 03:30:50 AM »
He can plan all he wants... he has the constitution and the supreme court giving him the finger on that and I doubt it gets through congress.

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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2012, 03:40:58 AM »
Where is Al Doggity to come in and tell us we are imagining things?  Nothing to see here folks.  Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. 

At this point even Hellen Keller would be able to hear the Democrats beating the drum for gun control.  To deny that it isn't happening makes you a fool and/or a liar. 

no worries, Al assured me that obama was just pandering...

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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2012, 04:24:47 AM »
HA HA feels good to watch all the gun nuts throw their little temper tantrum. 
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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2012, 05:33:43 AM »
HA HA feels good to watch all the gun nuts throw their little temper tantrum.  
says the guy who has benefited and or will benefit from having the 2nd Amend. in place as is.

If you think they push shit now, what do you think it would look like with an unarmed America?  Personally I'm just fine with them knowing Americans constitute the biggest armed force in the world.  Think of it as another check to the ballance lol...

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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2012, 05:58:50 AM »
says the guy who has benefited and or will benefit from having the 2nd Amend. in place as is.

If you think they push shit now, what do you think it would look like with an unarmed America?  Personally I'm just fine with them knowing Americans constitute the biggest armed force in the world.  Think of it as another check to the ballance lol...
I'm from Australia, and we have been unarmed for a long time, feels good not to ever have to think about guns, to be free of obsession with deadly weapons and to be able to send your child to school without fearing they won't be murdered.  So I live in a Country were my view is the majority and Gun Nutters are generally ridiculed or seen as kind of obsessive and mentally ill (that's because a lot of them are).  I can't stand special interest groups of any kind, let alone ones that enable unimaginable suffering and have a victim mentality (the gun Nutters are always playing the victim, I guess that's why they need a gun, to compensate for feeling like being a victim).  Anyway, good to see Obama grow some balls, pity it took 5 year old children being murdered while at school for him to find a pair!
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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2012, 07:32:05 AM »
I'm from Australia, and we have been unarmed for a long time, feels good not to ever have to think about guns, to be free of obsession with deadly weapons and to be able to send your child to school without fearing they won't be murdered.  So I live in a Country were my view is the majority and Gun Nutters are generally ridiculed or seen as kind of obsessive and mentally ill (that's because a lot of them are).  I can't stand special interest groups of any kind, let alone ones that enable unimaginable suffering and have a victim mentality (the gun Nutters are always playing the victim, I guess that's why they need a gun, to compensate for feeling like being a victim).  Anyway, good to see Obama grow some balls, pity it took 5 year old children being murdered while at school for him to find a pair!
Ok then, on this issue, get the fuck out of here.... Go on a walkabout or whatever but leave this issue to us to talk about.  You have no right to be weighing in on our national politics at this level.  Quite frankly, STFU.  Let Americans hash this out.  

I'm fine with people from other countries talking politics here when they have a stake in it such as in areas around foreign policy, trade, covert actions or war but you have no fucking right to be engaging in this debate being from Australia, or Canada or wherever.  bud the fuck out please.  This one is our business and doesn't effect you; let us have a discussion over this on our own...  It's not a "One World Whatevercrap-ship" yet.

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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2012, 08:20:14 AM »
Ok then, on this issue, get the fuck out of here.... Go on a walkabout or whatever but leave this issue to us to talk about.  You have no right to be weighing in on our national politics at this level.  Quite frankly, STFU.  Let Americans hash this out.  

I'm fine with people from other countries talking politics here when they have a stake in it such as in areas around foreign policy, trade, covert actions or war but you have no fucking right to be engaging in this debate being from Australia, or Canada or wherever.  bud the fuck out please.  This one is our business and doesn't effect you; let us have a discussion over this on our own...  It's not a "One World Whatevercrapshit-ship" yet.
Bump...

If you're not an American citizen, you really need to step back on this issue.

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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2012, 08:41:05 AM »
Ok then, on this issue, get the fuck out of here.... Go on a walkabout or whatever but leave this issue to us to talk about.  You have no right to be weighing in on our national politics at this level.  Quite frankly, STFU.  Let Americans hash this out.  

I'm fine with people from other countries talking politics here when they have a stake in it such as in areas around foreign policy, trade, covert actions or war but you have no fucking right to be engaging in this debate being from Australia, or Canada or wherever.  bud the fuck out please.  This one is our business and doesn't effect you; let us have a discussion over this on our own...  It's not a "One World Whatevercrap-ship" yet.
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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2012, 08:42:45 AM »
Where is Al Doggity to come in and tell us we are imagining things?  Nothing to see here folks.  Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. 

At this point even Hellen Keller would be able to hear the Democrats beating the drum for gun control.  To deny that it isn't happening makes you a fool and/or a liar. 

Hey, I was wrong. I admitted it. I was mostly responding to the knee-jerk "Obama wants to take our guns" sentiment from the right that pops up every couple of months after a shooting. The truth is , that was never the case. Even just two days ago, an article questioning Obama's commitment to gun safety ran on The Daily Beast:

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In his first term, Obama signed a bill making it legal to carry concealed weapons in national parks. Events have now pulled him into a leadership role on an emotional and cultural issue that he spent four years avoiding. He will of course sign an assault-weapons ban if it reaches his desk. The question is how much political capital he will invest in getting it passed when he has other legislative fights looming. “This last event requires his full involvement,” says Miller.


But I did misgauge how strong public reaction would be, which was foolish. It's just too hot right now. Even the majority of conservatives are taking a bit of a backseat on the issue right now.

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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2012, 08:57:39 AM »
El oh fucking el.

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yup, I  don't get it either.  

I even made the best attempt to keep any political comments about Hugo Chavez in the realm that was at issue with America.  On other issues I tried to stay the fuck out of their politics as much as possible.  That's their business, not ours.  Personally I thought all that shit that went down was all their business and I didn't like our government getting involved and I don't like the fact that I felt the need to even talk about Hugo Chavez or Venezuela as a result of that involvement..  

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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2012, 09:10:52 AM »
so I'll keep this bumped.  If you're not an American, you really need to STFU on this issue.  You want strong gun control in your country, talk all you want about that but don't come on here talking about what we need to do if you don't live here.

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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2012, 06:35:22 PM »
Ok then, on this issue, get the fuck out of here.... Go on a walkabout or whatever but leave this issue to us to talk about.  You have no right to be weighing in on our national politics at this level.  Quite frankly, STFU.  Let Americans hash this out.  

I'm fine with people from other countries talking politics here when they have a stake in it such as in areas around foreign policy, trade, covert actions or war but you have no fucking right to be engaging in this debate being from Australia, or Canada or wherever.  bud the fuck out please.  This one is our business and doesn't effect you; let us have a discussion over this on our own...  It's not a "One World Whatevercrap-ship" yet.
Typical arrogant American, expects the rest of the world to fuck off why they Enable the Murder of 5 year old children in schools.
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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2012, 06:37:10 PM »
El oh fucking el.

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Never understand people from other countries bitching and moaning about the way we live our lives.
Yeah, it must be hard for someone with an 83 IQ to understand why anyone would be bothered by a Nation that has enabled the mass slaughter of children and continues to do so.
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Re: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2012, 06:40:22 PM »
Which "group" on getbig is the most close-minded and make the most baseless assumptions about others?

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« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2012, 07:05:33 PM »
Which "group" on getbig is the most close-minded and make the most baseless assumptions about others?

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How is dozens of 5 year old children being slaughtered have anything to do with feelings.  Other peoples privileges end, when they infringe on Universal Human rights, like the right to safety and security.  I will enjoy watching the collective childish temper tantrum the Gun Nutter will inevitably throw when confronted on their sociopathic narcissistic need to own a gun.
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