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She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« on: December 19, 2012, 11:08:38 PM »
Old article I think, relevant excerpt:

Then they took our guns

“Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long afterwards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.

“No more freedom of speech. Anyone who said something against the government was taken away. We knew many people who were arrested, not only Jews, but also priests and ministers who spoke up.

Totalitarianism didn’t come quickly, it took 5 years from 1938 until 1943, to realize full dictatorship in Austria. Had it happened overnight, my countrymen would have fought to the last breath. Instead, we had creeping gradualism. Now, our only weapons were broom handles. The whole idea sounds almost unbelievable that the state, little by little eroded our freedom.”

“This is my eye-witness account.

Read more: http://blog.beliefnet.com/on_the_front_lines_of_the_culture_wars/2011/04/she-survived-hitler-and-wants-to-warn-america.html#ixzz2FZcb5Qrd



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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2012, 12:30:35 AM »
Stop posting historical threads...history means nothing here. Nothing happened before Bush became President and we were then rescued by Obama. These things could never happen here...never. Guns are bad, Libs are good, the Constitution was written by stupid white slave owners and has no relevance.
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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2012, 12:35:01 AM »
Stop posting historical threads...history means nothing here. Nothing happened before Bush became President and we were then rescued by Obama. These things could never happen here...never. Guns are bad, Libs are good, the Constitution was written by stupid white slave owners and has no relevance.

Good point headhunter!

Hell, lots of that old shit in the constitution really doesn't apply anymore.  Like that unrealistic shit about due process, freedom of assembly, don't get me started on the one about soldiers being quartered in homes...  That was the old days


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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2012, 12:51:46 AM »
obama is, in most ways, hitler

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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2012, 07:55:23 AM »
obama is, in most ways, hitler

If Obama was Hitler you would be death now.

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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2012, 08:50:08 AM »
If Obama was Hitler you would be death now.
Took Hitler quite a while before he actually got around to that. Not necessarily saying Obama is like Hitler, just that it took a good bit of time before he took his sharp left turn into murder town.

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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2012, 09:23:17 AM »
Took Hitler quite a while before he actually got around to that. Not necessarily saying Obama is like Hitler, just that it took a good bit of time before he took his sharp left turn into murder town.

It's a lot like cancer, one of the deadliest diseases known to man. It doesn't kill instantly. But, it kills "Slow but sho'", as the saying goes.

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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2012, 09:56:56 AM »
Old article I think, relevant excerpt:

Then they took our guns

“Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long afterwards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.

“No more freedom of speech. Anyone who said something against the government was taken away. We knew many people who were arrested, not only Jews, but also priests and ministers who spoke up.

Totalitarianism didn’t come quickly, it took 5 years from 1938 until 1943, to realize full dictatorship in Austria. Had it happened overnight, my countrymen would have fought to the last breath. Instead, we had creeping gradualism. Now, our only weapons were broom handles. The whole idea sounds almost unbelievable that the state, little by little eroded our freedom.”

“This is my eye-witness account.
Read more: http://blog.beliefnet.com/on_the_front_lines_of_the_culture_wars/2011/04/she-survived-hitler-and-wants-to-warn-america.html#ixzz2FZcb5Qrd


only problem with this is that no one is suggesting the complete elimination of private gun ownership but what the heck, let's just pretend that's what everyone is talking anyway

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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2012, 10:42:21 AM »
Took Hitler quite a while before he actually got around to that. Not necessarily saying Obama is like Hitler, just that it took a good bit of time before he took his sharp left turn into murder town.

No it didnt.

Hitler tried to takeover the government 10 years before he became Fuhrer.

And he wrote a book in jail.

He didnt kill the number 1 terrorist and gave uninsured healthcare first.

Disagree with Obama all you want but comparing him to Hitler is just plain stupid.

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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2012, 11:10:59 AM »

only problem with this is that no one is suggesting the complete elimination of private gun ownership but what the heck, let's just pretend that's what everyone is talking anyway

I understand that, I'm just trying to spread a little bit of historical insight on the subject.  Combating the nativity, and knee jerk reactions from our resident Constitution haters. 

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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2012, 01:33:05 PM »
No it didnt.

Hitler tried to takeover the government 10 years before he became Fuhrer.

And he wrote a book in jail.

He didnt kill the number 1 terrorist and gave uninsured healthcare first.

Disagree with Obama all you want but comparing him to Hitler is just plain stupid.
Re-read my post.

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Not necessarily saying Obama is like Hitler

I wasn't comparing them, I simply was stating that Hitler didn't become the Fuhrer and then immediately start gassing the Jews. It took a couple of years.

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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2012, 01:54:41 PM »
Re-read my post.

I wasn't comparing them, I simply was stating that Hitler didn't become the Fuhrer and then immediately start gassing the Jews. It took a couple of years.

yes I see your point here but the inference is that while Obama hasn't exhibited Hitler like traits, he could be,start or is already doing it. It's absolutely absurd, this thread should be deleted, it's again hyperbole with no underpinnings of reality.

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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2012, 05:45:34 PM »
it was stupid to compare obama to hitler just like it was stupid to compare bush to hitler.

Fact is though hitler and other murderous dictators would have had a lot harder time killing as many ppl as they did if the population they were trying to kill was armed...

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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2012, 06:45:41 PM »
it was stupid to compare obama to hitler just like it was stupid to compare bush to hitler.

Fact is though hitler and other murderous dictators would have had a lot harder time killing as many ppl as they did if the population they were trying to kill was armed...

Sure, but the gun violence rate is quite high in the states compared to places with gun control. If one of your chief arguments are to prevent a dictatorship the likes of Hitler then I think you stand on shaky ground. Nothing wrong with guns, it's a quite obvious though that the current policies need to be more stringent. The problem isn't the guns, I see both sides, nor really the type (assault rifles need some serious policies) but proper checks in place to keep retards from obtaining them. It seems like it is pretty easy to obtain a gun.

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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2012, 07:33:22 PM »
Sure, but the gun violence rate is quite high in the states compared to places with gun control. If one of your chief arguments are to prevent a dictatorship the likes of Hitler then I think you stand on shaky ground. Nothing wrong with guns, it's a quite obvious though that the current policies need to be more stringent. The problem isn't the guns, I see both sides, nor really the type (assault rifles need some serious policies) but proper checks in place to keep retards from obtaining them. It seems like it is pretty easy to obtain a gun.

Not really... WHen more people are killed by baseball bats than guns every year... (Look it up) then I think you can rest assured that it's not "Guns" that are the problem.

There is much knowledge in this old broad... people would be smart to think about it.

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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2012, 06:31:23 AM »
Not really... WHen more people are killed by baseball bats than guns every year... (Look it up) then I think you can rest assured that it's not "Guns" that are the problem.

There is much knowledge in this old broad... people would be smart to think about it.

How many school children are killed at school with baseball bats?

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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2012, 06:40:02 AM »
How many school children are killed at school with baseball bats?
Lol why do you have to qualify the statement with "at school"?

Being killed is being killed foes it matter where you are at?

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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2012, 06:46:11 AM »
Lol why do you have to qualify the statement with "at school"?

Being killed is being killed foes it matter where you are at?

Yes there is difference between killing 1 person with a bat and shooting 20 with a gun.

How many baseball bat kill sprees do you see?

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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2012, 06:51:59 AM »
Yes there is difference between killing 1 person with a bat and shooting 20 with a gun.

How many baseball bat kill sprees do you see?
That wasn't my question...you qualified your statement with "at schools" that has nothing to do with your response. Try to keep up....

So you're not concerned with the total amount of ppl killed just the amount of ppl killed at one time?


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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2012, 06:58:52 AM »
That wasn't my question...you qualified your statement with "at schools" that has nothing to do with your response. Try to keep up....

So you're not concerned with the total amount of ppl killed just the amount of ppl killed at one time?



If liberals, leftists, communists, socialists, progresssives gave a damn about aggregate numbers they would wage a war on backyard pools too. 

They dont give a damn and actually prefer a high body count since it helps them advance their tyranical nanny police state agenda,. 

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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2012, 07:30:30 AM »

only problem with this is that no one is suggesting the complete elimination of private gun ownership but what the heck, let's just pretend that's what everyone is talking anyway


That's the point of the article, it didn't happen over night.  It starts with one law, and then keeps creeping until it has gone so far past what the original law was thought to do/protect.  There is a huge difference between boycotting a Jewish clothing store and gassing them to death, but one was caused when the other started.  I'm not some right wing conspiracy nut, just a dude that can look at something objectively and see where it COULD go if not steered in the right direction.

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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2012, 07:32:51 AM »
http://www.infowars.com/new-york-gov-mandatory-gun-sale-to-state-and-confiscation-are-options


Cuomo and his leftist lynch mob of communists and liberal tyrants are really itching for violence arent they? 

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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2012, 07:41:06 AM »
http://www.infowars.com/new-york-gov-mandatory-gun-sale-to-state-and-confiscation-are-options


Cuomo and his leftist lynch mob of communists and liberal tyrants are really itching for violence arent they? 

how do you arrive at the conclusion Cuomo is "itching for violence"

are you suggesting your fellow morons and mental patients will be the ones to become violent because there is nothing in the story that indicates a violence from Cuomo

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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2012, 08:07:14 AM »
That wasn't my question...you qualified your statement with "at schools" that has nothing to do with your response. Try to keep up....

So you're not concerned with the total amount of ppl killed just the amount of ppl killed at one time?



Exactly... So it's fine if you kill 1000 people... Just as long as 30 of them aren't killed in the same 5-10 minutes.

Ridiculous!

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Re: She survived Hitler and wants to warn America
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2012, 11:07:54 AM »
Not really... WHen more people are killed by baseball bats than guns every year... (Look it up) then I think you can rest assured that it's not "Guns" that are the problem.

There is much knowledge in this old broad... people would be smart to think about it.

LOL that is utter rubbish, gun murders make up nearly 70% of all murders in US(FBI UNIFORM CRIME REPORTS)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state