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Jon Harridan

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How did Jay Cutler ever win more Sandows than this guy?

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP)
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2012, 06:27:17 AM »
Sergio was a black man in a white mans world!
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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP)
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2012, 11:59:10 AM »

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP)
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2012, 06:34:09 PM »
Sergio was a black man in a white mans world!

Yet, six of the 13 Mr. Os were/are black.

- Oliva
- Dickerson
- Haney
- Coleman
- Jackson
- Heath

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP)
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2012, 06:35:22 PM »
How did Jay Cutler ever win more Sandows than this guy?

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP)
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2012, 06:37:05 PM »
How did Jay Cutler ever win more Sandows than this guy?

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1. Cutler's bigger
2. Cutler's more ripped

If someone actually competed against Oliva at one of those Olympias, he may only have had two trophies, instead of three (i.e. Bill Pearl, who beat Oliva at the 1971 NABBA Mr. Universe).

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP)
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2012, 07:59:04 PM »
How did Jay Cutler ever win more Sandows than this guy?

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Try the 1972 Version of Sergio @ the Olympia, in the 84 O Sergio was Old,  Smaller, Crap Quads etc, 1972 he was Incredible

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP)
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2012, 09:11:09 PM »
How did Jay Cutler ever win more Sandows than this guy?

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Cutler knows how to play the game and he does it well. What have you missed here? His greatness has shit to do with Jay Cutler. that was probably rhetorical.

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP)
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2012, 12:48:20 PM »
1. Cutler's bigger
2. Cutler's more ripped

If someone actually competed against Oliva at one of those Olympias, he may only have had two trophies, instead of three (i.e. Bill Pearl, who beat Oliva at the 1971 NABBA Mr. Universe).

Cutler took WAY more drugs and had a far bigger midsection than the great Oliva.

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP)
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2012, 01:38:55 PM »
Cutler took WAY more drugs and had a far bigger midsection than the great Oliva.

I don't doubt Jay took more.  Plus, Oliva didn't have the benefit of loads of gH and insulin. 

On the other hand, Mike Mentzer told me that Sergio was notorious for consuming hundreds of mg of CIBA D-bol at a time, like big HANDFULS at every meal, day after day.  When Jones trained Sergio, Art was supposedly disgusted by the latter's intake but knew asking him to stop was a futile endeavor. 

But to back up, even if those accounts are true, that much Dianabol still doesn't compare to the kind of freaky shit that happens with enough gH.  Anyone who believes Sergio's claims that he never took much are teasing themselves, but today's drugs are a different story.

Not that you're such a person, Jon.  And I'd much rather look like Sergio than Jay.  I'd just like to have seen the big Cuban in truly ripped contest shape. 

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP)
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2012, 01:40:24 PM »



Holy shit... hair to cum on and tummy looks good too

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP)
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2012, 09:44:28 PM »

Holy shit... hair to cum on and tummy looks good too
Hell yeah!   And the brunette's pretty hot too!

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP)
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2012, 11:18:40 AM »
Yet, six of the 13 Mr. Os were/are black.

- Oliva
- Dickerson
- Haney
- Coleman
- Jackson
- Heath

But should Sergio have won more Olympias, like in '72? That's the question. Perhaps Arnold shouldn't have won as many Sandows as he did.

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP)
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2012, 12:03:42 PM »
Try the 1972 Version of Sergio @ the Olympia, in the 84 O Sergio was Old,  Smaller, Crap Quads etc, 1972 he was Incredible
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He still looked pretty damn good, it was politics that always decides- Weider liked it that way...

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP) - The Myth Sergio Oliva - 1984 Mr,Olympia
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2012, 02:46:45 PM »




RIP

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP)
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2012, 06:43:26 PM »
But should Sergio have won more Olympias, like in '72? That's the question. Perhaps Arnold shouldn't have won as many Sandows as he did.
Please Arnold owned his ass

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP) - The Myth Sergio Oliva - 1984 Mr,Olympia
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2012, 07:36:01 PM »
Sergio wasnt part of the weider group. I forget the name of the guy but he used to represent sergio and lou before lou decided to go with the weiders. He and the weiders were competing and the weider boys won.

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP) - The Myth Sergio Oliva - 1984 Mr,Olympia
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2012, 07:48:19 PM »
He was indeed the greatest myth bodybuilding ever knew.

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP) - The Myth Sergio Oliva - 1984 Mr,Olympia
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2012, 08:57:38 PM »
Sergio wasnt part of the weider group. I forget the name of the guy but he used to represent sergio and lou before lou decided to go with the weiders. He and the weiders were competing and the weider boys won.
^^
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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP)
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2013, 02:36:43 PM »
^^
He still looked pretty damn good, it was politics that always decides- Weider liked it that way...
politics? sergio won 67,68 and 69......weider had nothing to do with sergio not winning in 84.

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP)
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2013, 03:17:10 PM »
1. Cutler's bigger
2. Cutler's more ripped

If someone actually competed against Oliva at one of those Olympias, he may only have had two trophies, instead of three (i.e. Bill Pearl, who beat Oliva at the 1971 NABBA Mr. Universe).

Cutler also has a fat waist that would look like crap at Sergio's peak. That alone would be enough to eliminate him. These current stars might be ripped but they have soft bloated muscles with balloon bellies that they get tired of holding in.

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP) - The Myth Sergio Oliva - 1984 Mr,Olympia
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2013, 05:05:16 PM »
Posing wasn't Sergio's strong suit, he didn't display his whole body well.

As far as Mr Olympia's go, why doesn't anyone complain about Dickerson...

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP) - The Myth Sergio Oliva - 1984 Mr,Olympia
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2013, 10:25:40 AM »
Posing wasn't Sergio's strong suit, he didn't display his whole body well.

As far as Mr Olympia's go, why doesn't anyone complain about Dickerson...
dickerson was pretty good at displaying his strengths on stage......he had great tris and calves plus fantastic conditioning. just my 2 cents.

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP)
« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2013, 12:09:36 PM »
politics? sergio won 67,68 and 69......weider had nothing to do with sergio not winning in 84.
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POOR IFBB judging had more to do with it in 1984- gave the contest to a dude with horrible arm genetics (Lee Haney).
Think of just HOW MUCH better Sergio was, compared with bodybuilders like Chris Dickerson, etc...

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Re: The Greatest Ever (RIP) - The Myth Sergio Oliva - 1984 Mr,Olympia
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2013, 12:38:04 PM »
being a Dan Luie Mr Olympus didn't help either...