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Communism is not just a theory, it can and does work. (Communes)
« on: December 22, 2012, 11:09:18 PM »
are not 'communes' simply pure communism on a small scale and consisting only of people who voluntarily take part?

there are wildy successful communes all across the world. 

for example,

1)  a 450 acre commune in Virginia where 100 people live together, work together, eat together, pay bills together, make decisions together, etc.  been running since 1967   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Oaks_Community

2) over 1500 acres and averaging roughly 100 people at a time, the farm in tennessee was founded in 1971
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Farm_(Tennessee)

etc



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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2012, 11:49:27 PM »
It is too small of a sampling to insinuate that it can work on a mass scale.  Plus these people are like minded and chose this way of life.  Implementing this on people that wants more out of life would not work.

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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2012, 11:58:13 PM »
It is too small of a sampling to insinuate that it can work on a mass scale.  Plus these people are like minded and chose this way of life.  Implementing this on people that wants more out of life would not work.
true- i think the key to success in any endeavor lies in voluntary and passionate participation by participants.

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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2012, 12:23:03 AM »
The theory behind capitalism is that the individual or private enterprises as the case may be, and all capital & resources are owned by or exist/work for the benefit of the capitalist.

The theory behind communism is that all people and resources exist/work for the benefit of the state.

That doesn't even go down well in socialist leaning countries. How well do you think the idea will catch on in the USA? ??? (pretty much like a lead balloon imo)
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2012, 12:36:49 AM »
capitalism is every man for himself,  communism is "all for one and one for all".

capitalism is individualism, communism is collectivism.

capitalism is freeedom, communism is participation.


capitalism doesnt need cooperation. communism demands complete cooperation.



communism cant work unless everyone is working together honestly towards the same goal.  capitalism works no matter what.

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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2012, 12:40:59 AM »
capitalism is every man for himself,  communism is "all for one and one for all".

capitalism is individualism, communism is collectivism.

capitalism is freeedom, communism is participation.


capitalism doesnt need cooperation. communism demands complete cooperation.



communism cant work unless everyone is working together honestly towards the same goal.  capitalism works no matter what.

Well your economy is hardly a shining example of that, ...not when you're off begging communists to loan you money. just sayin'.  :-\
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« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2012, 12:43:10 AM »
I've thought about it and I think I am too much of a loner to live in a commune. I really enjoy my alone time....probably a result of being an only child until I was fifteen years old.

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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2012, 12:47:48 AM »
Well your economy is hardly a shining example of that, ...not when you're off begging communists to loan you money. just sayin'.  :-\
when i said "capitalism works no matter what" i did not mean that capitalism always yeilds positive growth and government surpluses.  what i meant is simply that capitalism is defined by a lack of government interference and so long as that is accomplished then it is "working". as opposed to communism which is defined by mass cooperation and onnly works when that is accomplished (a difficult task to accomplish).

as for the united states economy, for all its ails it is still by far the best on the planet.

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« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2012, 01:21:15 AM »

as for the united states economy, for all its ails it is still by far the best on the planet.

Hahahahahahaa lolololololz

Oh Tbombz, put down the crack pipe, or turn off FOX News,
...and stop this mental masturbation.  {pssst} I'm embarrassed or you.  :-[
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« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2012, 01:36:05 AM »
Hahahahahahaa lolololololz

Oh Tbombz, put down the crack pipe, or turn off FOX News,
...and stop this mental masturbation.  {pssst} I'm embarrassed or you.  :-[
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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2012, 01:48:17 AM »
move to a commy coutry u fukin fag

then gegt back to me

this aint about chess king anda chain niga

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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2012, 03:04:09 AM »
There aren't any communist countries.

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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2012, 05:36:06 AM »
and a family unit is basically communism as well but that doesnt prove that communism works...

I think you have the right idea though from reading the rest of your posts in this thread.

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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2012, 06:51:16 AM »
worked great in russia!!!

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« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2012, 06:59:29 AM »
There aren't any communist countries.
OMG You Serious. The following are self described Communist Countries, although they rarely follow the principles of Communism, but democracies rarely follow the principles of democracy.

Cuba (Cuban Revolution in 1959, socialist state declared in 1961); Communist Party of Cuba
Laos (since 1975); Lao People's Revolutionary Party
People's Republic of China (since 1949); Communist Party of China
Vietnam (since 1976); Communist Party of Vietnam

North Korea could also be considered a communist Country
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« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2012, 08:18:34 AM »
are not 'communes' simply pure communism on a small scale and consisting only of people who voluntarily take part?

there are wildy successful communes all across the world. 

for example,

1)  a 450 acre commune in Virginia where 100 people live together, work together, eat together, pay bills together, make decisions together, etc.  been running since 1967   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Oaks_Community

2) over 1500 acres and averaging roughly 100 people at a time, the farm in tennessee was founded in 1971
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Farm_(Tennessee)

etc



for more information= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commune



cooperatives work just fine...

http://www.desjardins.com/fr/bienvenue.jsp

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« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2012, 08:20:03 AM »
OMG You Serious. The following are self described Communist Countries, although they rarely follow the principles of Communism, but democracies rarely follow the principles of democracy.

Cuba (Cuban Revolution in 1959, socialist state declared in 1961); Communist Party of Cuba
Laos (since 1975); Lao People's Revolutionary Party
People's Republic of China (since 1949); Communist Party of China
Vietnam (since 1976); Communist Party of Vietnam

North Korea could also be considered a communist Country

All of which are shining examples of a great place to live.

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« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2012, 08:21:54 AM »
Well your economy is hardly a shining example of that, ...not when you're off begging communists to loan you money. just sayin'.  :-\

Can't beg the willing.   Still yet, just a bump in the road.  While most countries, like Canada are like a State to the size of the American economy.  Heck, you guys had to open the flood gates of immigration just to compete. 

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« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2012, 05:26:59 PM »
Well your economy is hardly a shining example of that, ...not when you're off begging communists to loan you money. just sayin'.  :-\

When there are true free markets, a country can afford some socialism when times are prosperous.  At present, America has socialism, but capitalism gets blamed, even though it's not being practiced, at least not in the true sense.

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« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2012, 05:51:28 PM »
All of which are shining examples of a great place to live.
hahahah bump E-Kunt!!!

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« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2012, 05:58:36 PM »
Can't beg the willing.   Still yet, just a bump in the road.  While most countries, like Canada are like a State to the size of the American economy.  Heck, you guys had to open the flood gates of immigration just to compete.  

To truly compete with the U.S, Canada would have to buy a really big printing press.  ;)

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« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2012, 06:02:25 PM »
To truly compete with the U.S, Canada would have to buy a really big printing press.  ;)
the printing of US dollars makes canadas monoply money stronger but dont let facts get in the way...

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« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2012, 06:08:39 PM »
the printing of US dollars makes canadas monoply money stronger but dont let facts get in the way...


Evidently my dig at what passes for monetary policy was lost on you.  

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« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2012, 06:32:04 PM »
OMG You Serious. The following are self described Communist Countries, although they rarely follow the principles of Communism, but democracies rarely follow the principles of democracy.

Cuba (Cuban Revolution in 1959, socialist state declared in 1961); Communist Party of Cuba
Laos (since 1975); Lao People's Revolutionary Party
People's Republic of China (since 1949); Communist Party of China
Vietnam (since 1976); Communist Party of Vietnam

North Korea could also be considered a communist Country
labeling yourself a duck doesn't make you one.  none of those come even remotely close to resembling communism.

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« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2012, 06:38:44 PM »
To truly compete with the U.S, Canada would have to buy a really big printing press.  ;)

Among other things, trillions and trillions of other things even with our debt.