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Marty Champions

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power?

just wondering if theyve ever considerd macro-entities
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Are you interested in the sociological fact of whether atheists do in fact tend to think this way, or in what they can believe in while still being logically consistent? The former can be captured in a poll (though I haven't looked to see whether there is one), the latter thrashed out with some philosophizing.


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Are you interested in the sociological fact of whether atheists do in fact tend to think this way, or in what they can believe in while still being logically consistent? The former can be captured in a poll (though I haven't looked to see whether there is one), the latter thrashed out with some philosophizing.



your post=basically what im saying, sometimes its better to troll a post to get a more intriguing answer than spelling it out for everyone  :D
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No such thing as a "higher power".

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The Weed-Smokers are the Highest

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Humans are insignificant in the Universe Johnny, but that does not mean we can`t enjoy ourselves and help others live in comfort and peace as well.

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No such thing as a "higher power".
i can think of a few

  higher = longitude (north/south) = north america is a higher power than south america

higher = altitude = denver is a higher power than los angeles

higher = wattage = lightening is a higher power than electrons

higher = intelligence = humans are a higher power than rodents



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higher = power to determine price = scarcity is a higher power than usefulness

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i can think of a few

  higher = longitude (north/south) = north america is a higher power than south america

higher = altitude = denver is a higher power than los angeles

higher = wattage = lightening is a higher power than electrons

higher = intelligence = humans are a higher power than rodents



Get the fuck out of here. 

You would have done better to say Gravity or the Speed of Light or Black Holes, but no, you went retard just as expected.

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lightening is a higher power than electrons
???




ROFLAMFOAFAMFAFOAFMFAFOF AMAFFAO

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i can think of a few

  higher = longitude (north/south) = north america is a higher power than south america

higher = altitude = denver is a higher power than los angeles

higher = wattage = lightening is a higher power than electrons

higher = intelligence = humans are a higher power than rodents



You do realize that Lightning is nothing but electrons?


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???




ROFLAMFOAFAMFAFOAFMFAFOF AMAFFAO
i see you deleted your comment making fun of my assertion that lightening is a higher power than electrons  ;D


man youve got to lighten up a little bit and stop taking your opinions so damn seriously. for one thing, youll never convince anybody to change their own opinion if you are presenting it in such a way. for two, its just plain unhealthy.

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You do realize that Lightning is nothing but electrons?


maybe electrons are nothing but miniature lightening ?  :D

 aggregate is greater than individual pieces.. = higher power..  ???   ;)

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i see you deleted your comment making fun of my assertion that lightening is a higher power than electrons  ;D


man youve got to lighten up a little bit and stop taking your opinions so damn seriously. for one thing, youll never convince anybody to change their own opinion if you are presenting it in such a way. for two, its just plain unhealthy.
I didn`t delete anything.  I cleaned it up to get YOUR moronic quote correct.

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Get the fuck out of here. 

You would have done better to say Gravity or the Speed of Light or Black Holes, but no, you went retard just as expected.
and so what would you consider those things to be higher powers than?

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lightening is a higher power than electrons

I have seen a lot of stupid shit, but this has to rank up there.

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A more important question is do they give their Christmas bonuses back to their bosses?

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A more important question is do they give their Christmas bonuses back to their bosses?
Christmas has nothing to do with religion at this point.

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Christmas has nothing to do with religion at this point.

Sure it does, at least to some degree.

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I have seen a lot of stupid shit, but this has to rank up there.
adam abeles is a higher power than atoms.

would you say that is stupid? since adam abeles is nothing but an aggregate of atoms?

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adam abeles is a higher power than atoms.

would you say that is stupid? since adam abeles is nothing but an aggregate of atoms?
Completely stupid.

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No, Christmas is just a time-period of commerce, nothing else.

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Completely stupid.
adam abeles, or the idea that he is a higher power than atoms ?  ;D

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your post=basically what im saying, sometimes its better to troll a post to get a more intriguing answer than spelling it out for everyone  :D

The majority of people I spend time with above and beyond 'acquaintance' level are atheists. Almost none affirm the existence of anything you might reasonably call a higher power, though some retain a core of mysticism and speak in vagaries of such things as 'spirits', a 'spiritual realm', and of their being 'something more than the physical' (and other similar statements).

Do we want to call such statements evidence of belief in a higher power? It depends on what you mean by the term. Anyway, there's definitely a contingent of atheists who believe in supernatural things, however vaguely defined. Whether we decide to call these things 'higher' or not is a relatively boring semantic issue we can solve by stipulation.

Now I'm going to generalize a bit. I think that, in general, those atheists who have dedicated the most thought to the matter tend to eschew any supernaturalism, whereas those who still affirm some sort of supernatural realm/entities are either recent converts and are loathe to abandon religiosity entirely, haven't thought about the issue all that much, or aren't particularly bright.