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« on: December 26, 2012, 12:41:47 PM »


Cops told NBC not to use gun clip
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NBC was told by the Washington, D.C., police that it was “not permissible” to show a high-capacity gun magazine on air before Sunday’s “Meet the Press,” according to a statement Wednesday from the cops.
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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2012, 12:47:53 PM »

David Gregory will not host this Sunday's 'Meet The Press' (Last seen riding in a White Bronco?)
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Posted on December 26, 2012, 2:34:05 PM EST by jimbo123

NBC's David Gregory, the subject of a now-popular police investigation, is on vacation and will not host this Sunday's edition of "Meet The Press."

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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2012, 03:09:44 PM »

lol... use your brain, gregory.  use a prop mag for this.
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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2012, 03:32:32 PM »

alot of good those high mag cap laws did eh.....
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« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2012, 04:43:35 PM »

alot of good those high mag cap laws did eh.....

great point, as always

the same could be said of speed limit laws

I see people speeding everyday without ever getting stopped

what's the point

shouldn't we just get rid of all speed limit laws if we can't stop everyone from speeding at all times

for that matter whats the point of having laws against murder if it doesn't stop all murder from happening
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« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2012, 04:58:16 PM »

great point, as always

the same could be said of speed limit laws

I see people speeding everyday without ever getting stopped

what's the point

shouldn't we just get rid of all speed limit laws if we can't stop everyone from speeding at all times

for that matter whats the point of having laws against murder if it doesn't stop all murder from happening
great point and it goes to the heart of the argument against you. Laws do not act as a deterent in the vast majority of cases. Isnt that one of the big argument against the death penalty.

So why do you feel you can legislate this problem away?

ESPECIALLY when the legislation you want doesnt even address the problem?HuhHuh?
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« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2012, 05:02:01 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2012, 05:39:12 PM »

great point and it goes to the heart of the argument against you. Laws do not act as a deterent in the vast majority of cases. Isnt that one of the big argument against the death penalty.

So why do you feel you can legislate this problem away?

ESPECIALLY when the legislation you want doesnt even address the problem?HuhHuh?


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I SAID THIS NOW ?

the point of if ideas such as getting rid of high capacity  magazines is not to legislate the problem away but simply to lessen the loss of life

and you can post all the video's you want of people who can change clips quickly after practicing is many time and under no stress but that doesn't change the fact that in reality these shooters are often ONLY STOPPED when they have to stop to change clips

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« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2012, 05:39:57 PM »


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I SAID THIS NOW ?

the point of if ideas such as getting rid of high capacity  magazines is not to legislate the problem away but simply to lessen the loss of life

and you can post all the video's you want of people who can change clips quickly after practicing is many time and under no stress but that doesn't change the fact that in reality these shooters are often ONLY STOPPED when they have to stop to change clips



McVeigh anyone?
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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2012, 05:43:52 PM »

McVeigh anyone?

what about him

how many shooting where there in the last year - shit in the last 6 month

how many McVeight type bombings since.....McVeigh

Of course you would try to conflate one with the other but only an idiot would do that or think it was a valid argument against gun control
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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2012, 05:45:27 PM »

what about him

how many shooting where there in the last year - shit in the last 6 month

how many McVeight type bombings since.....McVeigh

Of course you would try to conflate one with the other but only an idiot would do that or think it was a valid argument against gun control

Gun control against people like myself wont do jack shit.   
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« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2012, 05:47:56 PM »

Gun control against people like myself wont do jack shit.   

you own guns legally and I have no doubt you're capable of snapping one day and murdering innocent people

ideally, new gun laws would look at all of your online threats, insane, statements, etc... and verify that you are unfit to own firearms and probably even a car

unfortunately that will never happen but if we're lucky some idiot thief will break into your shithole apartment and you'll kill each other in a gunfight
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« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2012, 05:50:01 PM »


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I SAID THIS NOW ?

the point of if ideas such as getting rid of high capacity  magazines is not to legislate the problem away but simply to lessen the loss of life

and you can post all the video's you want of people who can change clips quickly after practicing is many time and under no stress but that doesn't change the fact that in reality these shooters are often ONLY STOPPED when they have to stop to change clips


you have one example of a guy who was rushed when changing clips and to you this makes it a reality that "OFTEN" they are stopped only when reloading?

I can name plenty of gun massacres where they were able to reload or simply used multiple guns to get around reloading and you have ONE!!!

At any rate you run into the same issue...

Laws do not deter ppl in general, ESPECIALLY those who are criminally minded and are dead set on their plans.

So why do you feel that banning high cap magazines will keep those magazines out of the hands of bad guys?

Drugs are banned and ppl dont have a problem at all getting their hands on those?

Why not address the problem at hand instead of trying to legislate the problem down by legislating the way it expresses itself?
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« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2012, 05:51:58 PM »

what about him

how many shooting where there in the last year - shit in the last 6 month

how many McVeight type bombings since.....McVeigh

Of course you would try to conflate one with the other but only an idiot would do that or think it was a valid argument against gun control
its not an argument against gun control its an argument for addressing the ACTUAL PROBLEM...

even if we get rid of guns these sociopaths will still kill ppl, do you understand that?

why not address teh problem?
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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2012, 05:54:46 PM »

you own guns legally and I have no doubt you're capable of snapping one day and murdering innocent people

ideally, new gun laws would look at all of your online threats, insane, statements, etc... and verify that you are unfit to own firearms and probably even a car

unfortunately that will never happen but if we're lucky some idiot thief will break into your shithole apartment and you'll kill each other in a gunfight

LOL - I have training , clearances, full carry in NYS which is FNG hard to get, etc. 

I hope a bunch of delusioinal leftist communists thugs try to confiscate weapons.   
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« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2012, 05:59:17 PM »

you own guns legally and I have no doubt you're capable of snapping one day and murdering innocent people

ideally, new gun laws would look at all of your online threats, insane, statements, etc... and verify that you are unfit to own firearms and probably even a car

unfortunately that will never happen but if we're lucky some idiot thief will break into your shithole apartment and you'll kill each other in a gunfight


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« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2012, 06:04:12 PM »

its not an argument against gun control its an argument for addressing the ACTUAL PROBLEM...

even if we get rid of guns these sociopaths will still kill ppl, do you understand that?

why not address teh problem?

yes, the problem is INSANE people getting their hands on guns or sometimes NOT INSANE people getting their hands on guns

what do you suggest as a solution

btw - the CO shooter had a 100 round drum magazine

do you think there might have been less dead people if he didn't have that

Your belief sees to be that banning high capacity magazine won't do any good

I say it will do some good from the mere fact that they will not be able to shoot as many people before having to stop

I see no reason why we shouldn't try that and the next time a shooter has to stop after 10 shots rather than 30 shots or 100 shots we can see who is correct

the CO shooter had a 100 round drum magazine that jammed after 30 shots

do you think a LOT more people would have died if he was able to get through 100 rounds



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« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2012, 06:05:00 PM »

LOL - I have training , clearances, full carry in NYS which is FNG hard to get, etc. 

I hope a bunch of delusioinal leftist communists thugs try to confiscate weapons.   

If only our laws included reviewing your online "life" you'd never be able to get near a gun for the rest of your miserable life
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« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2012, 06:11:04 PM »

yes, the problem is INSANE people getting their hands on guns or sometimes NOT INSANE people getting their hands on guns

what do you suggest as a solution

btw - the CO shooter had a 100 round drum magazine

do you think there might have been less dead people if he didn't have that

Your belief sees to be that banning high capacity magazine won't do any good

I say it will do some good from the mere fact that they will not be able to shoot as many people before having to stop

I see no reason why we shouldn't try that and the next time a shooter has to stop after 10 shots rather than 30 shots or 100 shots we can see who is correct

the CO shooter had a 100 round drum magazine that jammed after 30 shots

do you think a LOT more people would have died if he was able to get through 100 rounds
LMFAO so the problem will go away if guns arent present in the equation?

those insane ppl will just not kill anyone anymore?

NEWS FLASH!!!

WEVE BANNED HIGH CAP MAGS BEFORE!!!!

IT DIDNT FUKING WORK!!!!!!!!!

the hollywood shoot out during the bank robbery, you remember?

high cap mags were banned....

COLUMBINE???

HIGH CAP MAGS WERE BANNED!!!

ADDRESS THE FUKING PROBLEM!!![b/]
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LMFAO so the problem will go away if guns arent present in the equation?

those insane ppl will just not kill anyone anymore?

NEWS FLASH!!!

WEVE BANNED HIGH CAP MAGS BEFORE!!!!

IT DIDNT FUKING WORK!!!!!!!!!

the hollywood shoot out during the bank robbery, you remember?

high cap mags were banned....

COLUMBINE???

HIGH CAP MAGS WERE BANNED!!!

ADDRESS THE FUKING PROBLEM!!![b/]

when you said "it didn't work" you mean it didn't COMPLETELY ERADICATE THE PROBLEM

are you aware of the loopholes in the former law

btw

let's agree on the problem

the problem as I see it is that people intent on committing mass murder can easily do so with guns

whether the person is insane, angry or whatever the problem is they can easily murder many people very quickly with guns

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« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2012, 06:17:13 PM »

when you said "it didn't work" you mean it didn't COMPLETELY ERADICATE THE PROBLEM

are you aware of the loopholes in the former law

btw

let's agree on the problem

the problem as I see it is that people intent on committing mass murder can easily do so with guns

whether the person is insane, angry or whatever the problem is they can easily murder many people very quickly with guns
No, absolutely not...

the problem is ppl with the intent on mass murder, FUKING PERIOD

no guns are in that equation, guns are just the medium they often use to fulfill that goal.

Without guns the original problem still exists!!!
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« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2012, 06:24:06 PM »

No, absolutely not...

the problem is ppl with the intent on mass murder, FUKING PERIOD

no guns are in that equation, guns are just the medium they often use to fulfill that goal.

Without guns the original problem still exists!!!



really, so if guns aren't part of the problem then show me all the mass murder since Columbine that didn't include a gun

Here's the list of all the mass murders from Columbine forward that did include a gun

On Friday morning, 27 people were reportedly shot and killed at Sandy Hook elementary school in Newtown, CT. According to sources, 18 of these casualties were children. This is the second mass shooting in the US this week, after a gunman opened fire in an Oregon shopping mall on Tuesday, killing 2. ABC News reports that there have been 31 school shootings in the US since Columbine in 1999, when 13 people were killed.
The rate of people killed by guns in the US is 19.5 times higher than similar high-income countries in the world. In the last 30 years since 1982, America has mourned at least 61 mass murders. Below is a timeline of mass shootings in the US since the Columbine High massacre:


December 11, 2012. On Tuesday, 22-year-old Jacob Tyler Roberts killed 2 people and himself with a stolen rifle in Clackamas Town Center, Oregon. His motive is unknown.

September 27, 2012. Five were shot to death by 36-year-old Andrew Engeldinger at Accent Signage Systems in Minneapolis, MN. Three others were wounded. Engeldinger went on a rampage after losing his job, ultimately killing himself.

August 5, 2012. Six Sikh temple members were killed when 40-year-old US Army veteran Wade Michael Page opened fire in a gurdwara in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Four others were injured, and Page killed himself.

July 20, 2012. During the midnight premiere of The Dark Knight Rises in Aurora, CO, 24-year-old James Holmes killed 12 people and wounded 58. Holmes was arrested outside the theater.

May 29, 2012. Ian Stawicki opened fire on Cafe Racer Espresso in Seattle, WA, killing 5 and himself after a citywide manhunt.

April 6, 2012. Jake England, 19, and Alvin Watts, 32, shot 5 black men in Tulsa, Oklahoma, in racially motivated shooting spree. Three died.

April 2, 2012. A former student, 43-year-old One L. Goh killed 7 people at Oikos University, a Korean Christian college in Oakland, CA. The shooting was the sixth-deadliest school massacre in the US and the deadliest attack on a school since the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre.

February 27, 2012. Three students were killed by Thomas “TJ” Lane, another student, in a rampage at Chardon High School in Chardon, OH. Three others were injured.

October 14, 2011. Eight people died in a shooting at Salon Meritage hair salon in Seal Beach, CA. The gunman, 41-year-old Scott Evans Dekraai, killed six women and two men dead, while just one woman survived. It was Orange County’s deadliest mass killing.

September 6, 2011. Eduardo Sencion, 32, entered an IHOP restaurant in Carson City, NV and shot 12 people. Five died, including three National Guard members.

January 8, 2011. Former Rep. Gabby Giffords (D-AZ) was shot in the head when 22-year-old Jared Loughner opened fire on an event she was holding at a Safeway market in Tucson, AZ. Six people died, including Arizona District Court Chief Judge John Roll, one of Giffords’ staffers, and a 9-year-old girl. 19 total were shot. Loughner has been sentenced to seven life terms plus 140 years, without parole.

August 3, 2010. Omar S. Thornton, 34, gunned down Hartford Beer Distributor in Manchester, CT after getting caught stealing beer. Nine were killed, including Thornton, and two were injured.

November 5, 2009. Forty-three people were shot by Army psychiatrist Nidal Malik Hasan at the Fort Hood army base in Texas. Hasan reportedly yelled “Allahu Akbar!” before opening fire, killing 13 and wounding 29 others.

April 3, 2009. Jiverly Wong, 41, opened fire at an immigration center in Binghamton, New York before committing suicide. He killed 13 people and wounded 4.

March 29, 2009. Eight people died in a shooting at the Pinelake Health and Rehab nursing home in Carthage, NC. The gunman, 45-year-old Robert Stewart, was targeting his estranged wife who worked at the home and survived. Stewart was sentenced to life in prison.

February 14, 2008. Steven Kazmierczak, 27, opened fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University, killing 6 and wounding 21. The gunman shot and killed himself before police arrived. It was the fifth-deadliest university shooting in US history.

February 7, 2008. Six people died and two were injured in a shooting spree at the City Hall in Kirkwood, Missouri. The gunman, Charles Lee Thornton, opened fire during a public meeting after being denied construction contracts he believed he deserved. Thornton was killed by police.

December 5, 2007. A 19-year-old boy, Robert Hawkins, shot up a department store in the Westroads Mall in Omaha, NE. Hawkins killed 9 people and wounded 4 before killing himself. The semi-automatic rifle he used was stolen from his stepfather’s house.

April 16, 2007. Virginia Tech became the site of the deadliest school shooting in US history when a student, Seung-Hui Choi, gunned down 56 people. Thirty-two people died in the massacre.

February 12, 2007. In Salt Lake City’s Trolley Square Mall, 5 people were shot to death and 4 others were wounded by 18-year-old gunman Sulejman Talović. One of the victims was a 16-year-old boy.

October 2, 2006. An Amish schoolhouse in Lancaster, PA was gunned down by 32-year-old Charles Carl Roberts, Roberts separated the boys from the girls, binding and shooting the girls. 5 young girls died, while 6 were injured. Roberts committed suicide afterward.

March 25, 2006. Seven died and 2 were injured by 28-year-old Kyle Aaron Huff in a shooting spree through Capitol Hill in Seattle, WA. The massacre was the worst killing in Seattle since 1983.

March 21, 2005. Teenager Jeffrey Weise killed his grandfather and his grandfather’s girlfriend before opening fire on Red Lake Senior High School, killing 9 people on campus and injuring 5. Weise killed himself.

March 12, 2005. A Living Church of God meeting was gunned down by 44-year-old church member Terry Michael Ratzmann at a Sheraton hotel in Brookfield, WI. Ratzmann was thought to have had religious motivations, and killed himself after executing the pastor, the pastor’s 16-year-old son, and 7 others. Four were wounded.

July 8, 2003. Doug Williams, a Lockheed Martin employee, shot up his plant in Meridian, MS in a racially-motivated rampage. He shot 14 people, most of them African American, and killed 7 before killing himself.

December 26, 2000. Edgewater Technology employee Michael “Mucko” McDermott shot and killed seven of his coworkers at the office in Wakefield, MA. McDermott claimed he had “traveled back in time and killed Hitler and the last 6 Nazis.” He was sentenced to 7 consecutive life sentences.

September 15, 1999. Larry Gene Ashbrook opened fire on a Christian rock concert and teen prayer rally at Wedgewood Baptist Church in Fort Worth, TX. He killed 7 people and wounded 7 others, almost all teenagers. Ashbrook committed suicide.

July 29, 1999. Mark Orrin Barton, 44, murdered his wife and two children with a hammer before shooting up two Atlanta day trading firms. Barton, a day trader, was believed to be motivated by huge monetary losses. He killed 12 including his family and injured 13 before killing himself.

April 20, 1999. In the deadliest high school shooting in US history, teenagers Eric Harris and Dylan Kiebold shot up Columbine High School in Littleton, CO. They killed 13 people and wounded 21 others. They killed themselves after the massacre.
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« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2012, 06:29:46 PM »

great point, as always

the same could be said of speed limit laws

I see people speeding everyday without ever getting stopped

what's the point

shouldn't we just get rid of all speed limit laws if we can't stop everyone from speeding at all times

for that matter whats the point of having laws against murder if it doesn't stop all murder from happening
Roll Eyes LOL and you were just making a bitch about others having dumb arguments in all this... 
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« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2012, 06:30:25 PM »

Why are we limiting them to after columbine?

Oklahoma city and 9/11 have far greater numbers of dead and they didnt use guns...

so you think that these ppl wouldnt have killed anyone if they didnt have access to guns?
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« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2012, 06:32:06 PM »

So lets clarify your stance straw.

youre ok with crazy ppl killing innocent ppl just not in mass?

what number is to many at one time for you?
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