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« on: December 28, 2012, 10:38:18 AM »

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What is the best roid or cycle with least hairloss?

I am thinking about a cycle of Test/Primo 250/200 combined with finasteride
Is this a good idea if you are prone to MBP like me?

-Anavar?
Test/Primo?
Deca only is very safe for the hair but you cannot use it alone?

Please can somebody advise

Thanks in advance!


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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2012, 09:59:01 AM »

Hey bud, I just did an anavar only cycle, 50 mg daily x 8 weeks, gained a solid 8, no sides at all... Strength went through the roof... Got a bad cold 2 weeks after and lost most of the gains.   Was great, just not worth the price though

I am doing an experiment next course:  400 mg deca x 10-12 weeks, 250 IU hcg twice a week, plus an AI daily (arimidex)...    I am hoping the hcg boosts natural test a little to avoid complete shutdown.

Everyone here will say I am an idiot but I have different goals now that I am 34 and wanna keep my hair!  I really don't care about deca dick for 2 months.  Rather have deca dick for 2 months than permanent hair loss
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2012, 09:41:54 PM »

Bro it is all about the genes. All androgenic compounds will accelerate hair loss-- they all do. Better be saving up for Bosley!!

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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2012, 08:22:22 AM »

I have to agree with Doc. It's genetic and anything androgenic will speed the process up.

Primo seems to be easy on the hairline and i know guys who have had great results running Primo by itself.

You can run Deca alone, but you might want to keep some ancillaries and Test on hand in case you need them. I've used Deca without Test a few times and never had a problem, however your results may vary.


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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2012, 04:16:15 PM »

What dose and duration of deca did u use?  What were ur results?  Crash hard?
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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2013, 10:34:35 AM »

Hey bud, I just did an anavar only cycle, 50 mg daily x 8 weeks, gained a solid 8, no sides at all... Strength went through the roof... Got a bad cold 2 weeks after and lost most of the gains.   Was great, just not worth the price though

I am doing an experiment next course:  400 mg deca x 10-12 weeks, 250 IU hcg twice a week, plus an AI daily (arimidex)...    I am hoping the hcg boosts natural test a little to avoid complete shutdown.

Everyone here will say I am an idiot but I have different goals now that I am 34 and wanna keep my hair!  I really don't care about deca dick for 2 months.  Rather have deca dick for 2 months than permanent hair loss


Hey bro,

Thanks for your reply. Are you prone to male pattern baldness?
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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2013, 01:53:45 PM »

Losing a little on the temple areas, like near my front, makes it look like a have a little more forehead, and I am just so paranoid cause I really like my hair and would look soo foolish bald!
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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2013, 02:08:35 PM »

Losing a little on the temple areas, like near my front, makes it look like a have a little more forehead, and I am just so paranoid cause I really like my hair and would look soo foolish bald!

Let me know how your progression is going bro
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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2013, 06:17:48 PM »

I am using nizoral cream on my scalp every night, so hope that helps in the long run...

Plan in the deca hcg cycle in the future
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« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2013, 06:58:10 AM »

What dose and duration of deca did u use?  What were ur results?  Crash hard?

Last time i ran Deca alone was about 8 years ago, but i remember it being a mild cycle of 400mg Deca and 40mg Dbol. I remember gaining a good amount of weight and don't remember any sides. I came off with no PCT after 12 weeks and didn't have any problem. I was in my early 20's at this time so that might have helped. Overall i don't remember anything bad about it. The only thing i don't like about Deca is it always gives me acne.

Early 2012 i ran Deca/Eq/Primo without Test and i had a nice run with that. Gained about 12 pounds in 2 months on a solid diet and didn't come across any issues. I don't remember having any hair fall out on this cycle either.

I think everyone responds differently to Deca and all AAS for that matter. I've never known someone personally who had problems running Deca without Test.


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« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2013, 11:17:10 AM »

Last time i ran Deca alone was about 8 years ago, but i remember it being a mild cycle of 400mg Deca and 40mg Dbol. I remember gaining a good amount of weight and don't remember any sides. I came off with no PCT after 12 weeks and didn't have any problem. I was in my early 20's at this time so that might have helped. Overall i don't remember anything bad about it. The only thing i don't like about Deca is it always gives me acne.

Early 2012 i ran Deca/Eq/Primo without Test and i had a nice run with that. Gained about 12 pounds in 2 months on a solid diet and didn't come across any issues. I don't remember having any hair fall out on this cycle either.

I think everyone responds differently to Deca and all AAS for that matter. I've never known someone personally who had problems running Deca without Test.


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But deca only is very harsh for your libido (without test) and especailly if you are not the youngest dude anymore?!(40 years)
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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2013, 11:57:03 AM »


But deca only is very harsh for your libido (without test) and especailly if you are not the youngest dude anymore?!(40 years)

It "can" be.

That is why i tell people to be careful with it.

I didn't have a problem with it, but i hear stories on the internet about it all the time. I know plenty of people who use it without Test all the time who are in their 30's like myself.

Like everything, it's all individual and results may vary.


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« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2013, 03:23:08 PM »

Safest stack for hair loss (and mostly everything else) is:

A GH blast cycle:

5iu IM 3x/week post workout. 

Google it

I read this:

GH Cycling for Beginners
By: TJ

Youíve decided to take the plunge (pun intended) and finally try Growth Hormone. Wonderful, the benefits are wide and often remarkable, depending on what your goals with it are. If youíre a weightlifter, and since this article is being written for weightlifters and your reading it, Iím going to assume your goals are either to add muscle mass, to lose body fat or both. Thatís great because GH when used correctly can easily accomplish both. But how itís used and what itís used with will greatly impact how well it does its job so before we dig in with the actual nuts and bolts of your cycle letís recap a little on what exactly GH is and does.

Growth Hormone is a 191-amino acid, single chain polypeptide hormone (wow thatís a mouth full), letís just say itís a combination of amino acids arranged in a specific order to make up a hormone. Prior to 1985 it was harvested from cadavers (dead people), now it is constructed in a lab. GH is involved in over 500 different hormonal processes such as reproduction, fat burning, regulating basal body temperature, reducing insulin sensitivity, stimulating the immune system, hair and nail growth, bone growth and most importantly for lifters muscle growth, including many, many others. Of note though, the most noticeable effect reported from using GH is an increase in overall well being, that is the user reports feeling great overall without it being isolated to one body part. In some cases they say they feel 20 years younger, not bad from a simple daily injection right? Again though for the sake of this article weíll concentrate on the muscle gains and fat burning. With that in mind letís jump into a couple cycle options.


GH Cycle Option 1: Daily Injections

So what exactly constitutes the ďcorrectĒ GH cycle? Well thatís a good question, since there are an infinite number of ways to take any chemical what usually gets passed off as the ďcorrectĒ way is often just the most common. That doesnít always mean itís the best or most efficient way of doing things, just the most common. The 1st cycle we will discuss is the old standby, which is the daily injections method. This method has been used since the 70ís when athletes started experimenting with GH. Assuming your GH is of good quality and has been stored and shipped correctly there need not be any reason for you to use more than 4iu/day, most users of higher dosages do so because their GH has degraded somewhere along the line. I know Iím going to take flack on this from more experienced GH users but this article is be written for beginners and users with little GH experience and for those users the total dosage doesnít need to be any higher, anything more will be a waste and with the cost of GH what it is thatís plain madness. Most athletes that Iíve trained and counseled on the use of GH have received great results using 2-3iu/day total so 4ius is a safe bet. I always believe in starting as low as possible, you can always go up if lower dosages donít yield the desired results, but once youíve used a dosage going back down doesnít work as the body gets used to a certain level and anything under that level just wonít cut it so letís start with 4iu/day if we need to go up later you can. Below Iíve laid out a very basic GH cycle, one that should work nicely for most users.

4ius/day Growth Hormone, 2iu injected upon rising, 2iu injected immediately post-workout
500mg/week Testosterone
12.5- 25mcg/day T3

As you can see Iíve added in 2 additional chemicals that I feel are necessities to getting all you can out of your GH cycle, Testosterone and the thyroid medication T3. GH and Testosterone used together yield that much sort after synergy, that is in this case when the 2 chemicals used together yield the results of more than the 2 alone could. When you add in small amounts of T3(12.5-25mcg/day) to any steroid cycle it increases the muscle gains by increasing the absorption of protein and other nutrients, it also speeds up the metabolism just enough to start burning fat albeit small amounts at that dosage but still since the GH is building muscle and burning fat at the same time it will only enhance the results your seeking. T3 is a cheap addition that like I said will also help shed some fat while adding muscle mass, and we all know the muscle building properties of steroids like Testosterone so taken together these 3 chemicals should net you very favorable results. While you can get results from using GH by itself there is literally no comparison to the results gained by using the 3 chemicals listed above.


GH Cycle Option 2: 3/week Protocol

In recent times through experimentation lifters have discovered a new and exciting way of extracting even better results from the same amount of GH, and as an added benefit without the all too often experienced negative side effects like carpal tunnel syndrome, water retention or aching joints. This method involves taking your weekly total of GH you would use over a 7 day period, dividing it by 3 and using 1/3 post workout after 3 selected workouts each week. Now obviously the individual shots will be bigger, but because their infrequent the body doesnít grow accustomed to them and the side effects never show. In the 2 plus years Iíve been counseling lifters on their GH usage not 1 has experienced any side effects using GH this way, yet the muscle gains and fat loss results they experience are far better than ever. Iíve had guys who couldnít get any results from daily injects suddenly gain a solid 15lbs in 4-8 weeks by doing nothing more than switching their cycle from daily shots to the 3/week protocol. The cycle would look like this.

9-10ius GH 3 times per week, post workout, preferably IM injection
500mg/week Testosterone
12.5- 25mcg/day T3

Again you see that the 3 components are the same, GH, Testosterone and T3. The only differences between this option and option #1 is that you are doing shots only post workout and only on 3 workout days, on the ďoff daysĒ you are not shooting anything. You are also only shooting your GH once that day, right after your workout, not upon rising from sleep. The idea here is to hit it hard and infrequently, causing the body to react in a favorable way and then let it rest. I can state emphatically that I havenít had 1 person Iíve recommended this to over the past 2 plus years not be far more pleased with the results than with the daily injection method.


Conclusion

As you can see Iíve laid out what I feel are the 2 most popular methods of cycling GH, the decision is yours in which to try but I would make this recommendation to you if your goals are to gain muscle mass use the 3 times a week protocol, if fat loss is more your goal use the daily injection method. Thatís said, Iíve said this a hundred times so I may as well say it again, I donít like using GH for fat loss itís much too expensive for the amount of fat loss youíll experience, there are far better and cheaper chemicals you can use like T3, Clenbuterol and the ECA Stack. Also, youíll hear of the 5 on/2 off method, that is simply the daily injection method outlined above only you skip every 6th and 7th day, this isnít to keep things fresh in the body like with the 3 times a week protocol itís just so you save some money by doing 5 injections a week vs. 7. If you are going to do this save a few extra dollars and to it 7 days a week donít skimp and do it Ĺ way, go all the way and do it right.

One last thing, many people will tell you that you need to stack insulin with GH to get it to work, this is bull crap plain and simple. Will you get better results using Insulin, yes, but not because it makes the GH work any better but because Insulin is a very potent drug and the extra gains come from that. Iíve purposely left it out because these cycles are aimed at early users of GH and at this point Insulin shouldnít even be considered. Save that for years from now when you are struggling to get results from the chemicals you are using now. Use it now and you wonít have anything to turn to later. Hopefully one of the cycles Iíve laid out will help you reach your goals, work hard and it will come!
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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2013, 02:00:31 AM »

shit maybe i should have gone the GH route then  Sad

but my feet are too big already it looks weird

dont want to grow them more with GH
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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2013, 08:05:22 AM »

According to that author who is a "trainer" he says none of his clients report any sides when doing the short 12 week blast method (3x week)
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« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2013, 08:07:46 AM »

how do you get HGH that is not fake

and how much would such a blast cost
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« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2013, 08:09:59 AM »

he still includes test in there
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« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2013, 08:14:29 AM »

You can get hgh from a doc if you are known to be deficient

Cost is crazy, I heard around 3 k for such a cycle, maybe that's why no one does it and I think all that crap from china is just hcg....

I never did GH but sounds interesting.  People who tried real hg pharmacy grade GH say its simply amazing.
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« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2013, 05:01:22 PM »


yeah, on the test thing, damn, if one will go bald on something like 250mg every 10 days, hed go bald very soon anyway.lol.

yeah....I don't see how the gh would protect from the hair loss from that at all. Don't see how this guy can claim this is hair friendly.
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« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2013, 05:54:00 PM »

yeah....I don't see how the gh would protect from the hair loss from that at all. Don't see how this guy can claim this is hair friendly.

I said hair friendly if u lose the test!   U can gain a solid 10 doing real pharma grade GH at 5 IU m/w/f x 12 weeks per that author...
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« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2013, 12:16:45 PM »

I said hair friendly if u lose the test!   U can gain a solid 10 doing real pharma grade GH at 5 IU m/w/f x 12 weeks per that author...

I don't really take any of these online articles serious anymore but I'm curious to see what the muscle building effects of gh would be like on its own. But personally, if I was gonna run gh I wouldn't run it without some sort of aas...seems kind of like a waste.
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