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FUBO!
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« on: December 30, 2012, 08:02:00 AM » |
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littledumbells
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2012, 10:20:11 AM » |
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Calling a person or an idea now a days is pretty much worthless. The term/accusation has been thrown around so much it is meaningless
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Straw Man
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2012, 10:28:19 AM » |
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TYpically stupid since the single largest race on food stamps are white and most are working too
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tonymctones
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2012, 10:36:21 AM » |
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TYpically stupid since the single largest race on food stamps are white and most are working too
seeing as they make up the largest % by race in our population that would make sense. minorities make up a disproportionate % of food stamp recepients give the % make up of our population. Typical liberal looking at numbers and not looking at why they are what they are. I bet you cheered when the unemployment rate went down even though it was bc less ppl were looking for work.
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Straw Man
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2012, 11:03:18 AM » |
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seeing as they make up the largest % by race in our population that would make sense.
minorities make up a disproportionate % of food stamp recepients give the % make up of our population.
Typical liberal looking at numbers and not looking at why they are what they are. I bet you cheered when the unemployment rate went down even though it was bc less ppl were looking for work.
wow - you finally realized that higher percentage of minorities live in poverty than white people congratulations
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tonymctones
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2012, 11:12:36 AM » |
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wow - you finally realized that higher percentage of minorities live in poverty than white people
congratulations
I know, I know the white man is keeping them down
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Al Doggity
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2012, 12:23:39 PM » |
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Where does she say anything about race? Cavuto is the one who injects race into the conversation. What she does say is that it is a typical Republican tactic of creating a boogie man where there isn't one.
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tonymctones
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2012, 12:34:31 PM » |
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Where does she say anything about race? Cavuto is the one who injects race into the conversation. What she does say is that it is a typical Republican tactic of creating a boogie man where there isn't one.
says the person wanting to ban guns in response to sociopaths killing others... BOOGIE BOOGIE!!!!!
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P.I.P
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2012, 12:35:50 PM » |
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wow - you finally realized that higher percentage of minorities live in poverty than white people
congratulations
So your previous post was misleading on purpose? 
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Al Doggity
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2012, 12:36:45 PM » |
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says the person wanting to ban guns in response to sociopaths killing others...
BOOGIE BOOGIE!!!!!
I've never said I wanted to ban guns. I have repeatedly said I am in support of certain gun control measures. NEVER have I said that my support is solely in response to spree killers.
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tonymctones
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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2012, 12:38:47 PM » |
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I've never said I wanted to ban guns. I have repeatedly said I am in support of certain gun control measures. NEVER have I said that my support is solely in response to spree killers.
good to know so you do not support an assault weapons ban then?
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Al Doggity
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2012, 12:48:09 PM » |
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good to know
so you do not support an assault weapons ban then?
I didn't say that either. Over the course of the last weeks, I've repeatedly said that most of our nation's gun violence is not due to AWs, but I also think Straw Man has made some really strong points in these threads in support of clip limits. The reason I have rolled my eyes at your constant "address the real problem" mantra (aside from it being insipidly vague) is because very few social problems have one cause. There may be OTHER issues involved with these spree killings, but none of those issues come down to being the REAL issue.
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tonymctones
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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2012, 12:49:50 PM » |
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I didn't say that either. Over the course of the last weeks, I've repeatedly said that most of our nation's gun violence is not due to AWs, but I also think Straw Man has made some really strong points in these threads in support of clip limits. The reason I have rolled my eyes at your constant "address the real problem" mantra (aside from it being insipidly vague) is because very few social problems have one cause. There may be OTHER issues involved with these spree killings, but none of those issues come down to being the REAL issue.
the real issue is mental illness in 99% of these incidents, addressing mental illness is the solution that will provide tangible results in this arena. So youre against banning guns, but youre for an AWB? yea.........
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Al Doggity
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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2012, 12:52:42 PM » |
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the real issue is mental illness in 99% of these incidents, addressing mental illness is the solution that will provide tangible results in this arena.
So youre against banning guns, but youre for an AWB?
yea.........
Addressing mental illness by "subtracting crazy people". Yea... And I didn't say I was for AWB. Also, if you could post that link or article, that would be great.
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Straw Man
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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2012, 12:53:55 PM » |
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Addressing mental illness by "subtracting crazy people". Yea... And I didn't say I was for AWB.
Also, if you could post that link or article, that would be great.
it's so elegant with it's childlike simplicity I don't understand why know one else have ever thought of this
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Al Doggity
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« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2012, 12:55:08 PM » |
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it's so elegant with it's childlike simplicity
I don't understand why know one else have ever thought of this
My gun control proposal: Make people stop killing.
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tonymctones
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« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2012, 12:56:42 PM » |
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Addressing mental illness by "subtracting crazy people". Yea... And I didn't say I was for AWB.
Also, if you could post that link or article, that would be great.
Would addressing mental illness through allowing those with mental illness to be addressed and even institutionlized not address the problem at the root? I already linked it in another thread, either find it or do a google search.
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Straw Man
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« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2012, 12:56:51 PM » |
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My gun control proposal: Make people stop killing.
I've offered a few similar in simplicity to Tony the first and obvious one is that we simply make sure that these crazy people who have access to guns only kill themselves and no one else problem solved you're welcome world
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Straw Man
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« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2012, 12:57:58 PM » |
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So your previous post was misleading on purpose?  nope, my previous post pointed out that more white people are on food stamps than any other race that is a fact
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tonymctones
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« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2012, 12:59:28 PM » |
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it's so elegant with it's childlike simplicity
I don't understand why know one else have ever thought of this
do you not agree that it would be addressing the issue at the root? My gun control proposal: Make people stop killing.
hahah as opposed to gun control which has been proven to not work in the US? sorry hoss you need to address the actual problem
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Straw Man
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« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2012, 01:04:07 PM » |
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do you not agree that it would be addressing the issue at the root? hahah as opposed to gun control which has been proven to not work in the US?
sorry hoss you need to address the actual problem
No, all gun violence is not committed by crazy people Even some of these mass shooting are not done by"text book definition" crazy people some of them of them are just angry, mean, desperate mother fuckers Some of them definitely are crazy but you've proposed no actual way to "subtract them" other than vague generalization at best do you truly not understand that ?
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Al Doggity
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« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2012, 01:07:34 PM » |
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Some of them definitely are crazy but you've proposed no actual way to "subtract them" other than vague generalization at best
Some of them definitely are crazy but you've proposed no actual way to "subtract them" other than vague generalization at best
Some of them definitely are crazy but you've proposed no actual way to "subtract them" other than vague generalization at best
Some of them definitely are crazy but you've proposed no actual way to "subtract them" other than vague generalization at best
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tonymctones
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« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2012, 01:07:59 PM » |
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No, all gun violence is not committed by crazy people
Even some of these mass shooting are not done by"text book definition" crazy people some of them of them are just angry, mean, desperate mother fuckers
Some of them definitely are crazy but you've proposed no actual way to "subtract them" other than vague generalization at best
do you truly not understand that ?
ahh so now were talking about all gun violence? the proposed legislation you want is directed at mass killings and you use mass killings to justify it... addressing mental illness will address the root problem in the vast majority of mass killings, do you disagree?
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Straw Man
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« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2012, 01:09:26 PM » |
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ahh so now were talking about all gun violence?
the proposed legislation you want is directed at mass killings and you use mass killings to justify it...
addressing mental illness will address the root problem in the vast majority of mass killings, do you disagree?
weren't you you keep bringing up black gun violence as the reason for more gun control
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Al Doggity
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« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2012, 01:10:52 PM » |
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ahh so now were talking about all gun violence?
the proposed legislation you want is directed at mass killings and you use mass killings to justify it...
addressing mental illness will address the root problem in the vast majority of mass killings, do you disagree?
The article you linked to about a proposed UK knife ban was not about mass spree killers. It was about random violence, often perpetrated by teenagers. What "root" do you think needs to be addressed there?
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