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« Reply #50 on: January 04, 2013, 08:29:20 PM »

no one under 400k is seeing any tax increase
 
their payroll tax is no higher than the day Obama took office

LMFAO not even you believe that...

are ppl paying more in taxes than a week ago?

the tax cut may have been temporary but the tax rate has increased since last week even if you want to make a distinction without a difference and say that the tax cut just expired the end result is us paying a higher % than last week.

no way of getting around it straw, were paying a higher % of payroll taxes than last week.
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« Reply #51 on: January 04, 2013, 08:29:54 PM »

Yes, they are. Among the tax hikes is that little monstrosity, known as ObamaCare.
 

no they are not but you gave me a laugh the the use of monstrosity

you need to get some perspective in your life

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« Reply #52 on: January 04, 2013, 08:30:37 PM »

there was no tax hike on people under 400k

I know you need something to piss and moan about so go right ahead but you could make a bit of effort to find something real

Apparently, your fellow Obama worshippers are also doing that "piss and moan" routine. Why don't you tell them that they're not really getting bilked.
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« Reply #53 on: January 04, 2013, 08:30:47 PM »

LMFAO not even you believe that...

are ppl paying more in taxes than a week ago?

the tax cut may have been temporary but the tax rate has increased since last week even if you want to make a distinction without a difference and say that the tax cut just expired the end result is us paying a higher % than last week.

no way of getting around it straw, were paying a higher % of payroll taxes than last week.

of course I believe it and don't be such an idiot as to tell me what I do and don't believe

if anything you know I say exactly what I belive
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« Reply #54 on: January 04, 2013, 08:31:44 PM »

Apparently, your fellow Obama worshippers are also doing that "piss and moan" routine. Why don't you tell them that they're not really getting bilked.

like I already said, I haven't met one yet

who am I supposed to tell?
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« Reply #55 on: January 04, 2013, 08:32:29 PM »

of course I believe it and don't be such an idiot as to tell me what I do and don't believe

if anything you know I say exactly what I belive
remember the rules libtard

are we paying a higher % in payroll taxes than last week strawman?
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« Reply #56 on: January 04, 2013, 08:33:05 PM »

remember the rules libtard

are we paying a higher % in payroll taxes than last week strawman?

what rule did I break?
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« Reply #57 on: January 04, 2013, 08:34:15 PM »

what rule did I break?
answer the question

are we paying a higher % for payroll taxes than last week?
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« Reply #58 on: January 04, 2013, 08:34:28 PM »

LMFAO not even you believe that...

He does believe that. The concept of Obama, lying through his teeth to secure his vote, only to fiscally shank him and his fellow liberals (once it's politically safe) hasn't quite registered.


are ppl paying more in taxes than a week ago?

the tax cut may have been temporary but the tax rate has increased since last week even if you want to make a distinction without a difference and say that the tax cut just expired the end result is us paying a higher % than last week.

no way of getting around it straw, were paying a higher % of payroll taxes than last week.

Tack on ObamaCare and the cost of good and services that will be passed onto the consumer; and, there you have it. But, that's liberal fare for you. The way you get them to vote for tax hikes on themselves is to call them anything and everything BUT tax hikes (except when they're on those EEEEEEEVVVVIIIIILLLLL rich people).
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« Reply #59 on: January 04, 2013, 08:39:30 PM »

He does believe that. The concept of Obama, lying through his teeth to secure his vote, only to fiscally shank him and his fellow liberals (once it's politically safe) hasn't quite registered.

Tack on ObamaCare and the cost of good and services that will be passed onto the consumer; and, there you have it. But, that's liberal fare for you. The way you get them to vote for tax hikes on themselves is to call them anything and everything BUT tax hikes (except when they're on those EEEEEEEVVVVIIIIILLLLL rich people).
LOL no doubt...

so we are paying more for payroll taxes now than we have for the last 10 years but there hasnt been an increase in the tax rates.

Were paying a higher % now than a week ago but the tax rate has stayed the same, right straw?

LMFAO
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« Reply #60 on: January 04, 2013, 08:41:26 PM »

answer the question

are we paying a higher % for payroll taxes than last week?

if I give you a temporary price cut and then it expires did I RAISE prices

again, if you want to piss and moan and pretend or even actually believe Obama raised your taxes then go right ahead

I think I've made it clear I don't agree with you
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« Reply #61 on: January 04, 2013, 08:49:17 PM »

if I give you a temporary price cut and then it expires did I RAISE prices

again, if you want to piss and moan and pretend or even actually believe Obama raised your taxes then go right ahead

I think I've made it clear I don't agree with you
yes, lol you RAISED the price back to its original level.

an increase in price is still an increase in price no matter how it happens. FACT IS WE ARE PAYING A HIGHER % THAN LAST WEEK...THE % WE ARE PAYING HAS INCREASED SINCE LAST WEEK!!!

you CANNOT DISAGREE WITH THAT LMFAO

ok so obama didnt make the payroll tax cut permenant like he did the others, why?

obama let the payroll tax cut expire...
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« Reply #62 on: January 04, 2013, 08:51:22 PM »

yes, lol you RAISED the price back to its original level.

an increase in price is still an increase in price no matter how it happens. FACT IS WE ARE PAYING A HIGHER % THAN LAST WEEK...THE % WE ARE PAYING HAS INCREASED SINCE LAST WEEK!!!

you CANNOT DISAGREE WITH THAT LMFAO

ok so obama didnt make the payroll tax cut permenant like he did the others, why?

obama let the payroll tax cut expire...

that is not a raise/rise in prices

if you don't understand this by now then there's is really nothing more to say
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« Reply #63 on: January 04, 2013, 08:52:42 PM »

by the way im not just blaming obama but to think that obama isnt responsible for this at all is just ignorant.

This is a big ineffecient govt thing not a rep/dem thing, WE ALL GET FUCKED IN THIS DEAL...WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!
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« Reply #64 on: January 04, 2013, 08:53:52 PM »

by the way im not just blaming obama but to think that obama isnt responsible for this at all is just ignorant.

This is a big ineffecient govt thing not a rep/dem thing, WE ALL GET FUCKED IN THIS DEAL...WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!

lol

why all the caps ?

are you angry ?
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« Reply #65 on: January 04, 2013, 08:54:21 PM »

that is not a raise/rise in prices

if you don't understand this by now then there's is really nothing more to say
so there was no increase/rise in tax rates from this week to last week but we are still paying a higher %...got it
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« Reply #66 on: January 04, 2013, 08:55:31 PM »

so there was no increase/rise in tax rates from this week to last week but we are still paying a higher %...got it

there is no tax increase

haven't I made position on that clear ?
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« Reply #67 on: January 04, 2013, 08:56:29 PM »

lol

why all the caps ?

are you angry ?

You really expect him to be happy about higher taxes and less money in his pocket, with more fiscal destruction on the horizon?

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« Reply #68 on: January 04, 2013, 08:59:35 PM »

You really expect him to be happy about higher taxes and less money in his pocket, with more fiscal destruction on the horizon?

this is the kind of statement that is just dumb (as in stupid) because I've said many times that we should have let all the Bush tax cuts expire so obviously I'm fine with higher marginal tax rates

I guess I should be happy that Obama has extended all Bush era tax cuts  < 400k (single person)permanently

so....what is there for me to be unhappy about ?
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« Reply #69 on: January 04, 2013, 09:00:11 PM »

there is no tax increase

haven't I made position on that clear ?
hahah yet we are still paying a higher % than last week...

its a distinction without a difference...obama/congress let this tax rate expire meaning that we are now paying a higher % than we have for the last 10 years...

our taxes are higher, there is less take home pay...your splitting hairs doesnt change any of that.
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« Reply #70 on: January 04, 2013, 09:01:34 PM »

hahah yet we are still paying a higher % than last week...

its a distinction without a difference...obama/congress let this tax rate expire meaning that we are now paying a higher % than we have for the last 10 years...

our taxes are higher, there is less take home pay...your splitting hairs doesnt change any of that.

exactly

you do get it at least for brief moments
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« Reply #71 on: January 04, 2013, 09:07:28 PM »

exactly

you do get it at least for brief moments
haha i got it from the moment you spouted it, which is why I dont understand why youre making such a big deal about it.

Were paying a higher % than the last 10 years, we have less money in our take home pay now.

Obama/congress could have made this permenant just like they did the others. They decided to let it return to pre bush rates taking more money out of our hands and causing business cost per employee to increase.

All the while spending more and more with no real intention of cutting spending.

and you sit here and split hairs Roll Eyes
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« Reply #72 on: January 04, 2013, 09:09:44 PM »

this is the kind of statement that is just dumb (as in stupid) because I've said many times that we should have let all the Bush tax cuts expire so obviously I'm fine with higher marginal tax rates

I guess I should be happy that Obama has extended all Bush era tax cuts  < 400k (single person)permanently

so....what is there for me to be unhappy about ?


THIS is the kind of statement that is just dumb (as in mind-boggling, bone-headedly STUPID), because I didn't ask if YOU were happy about Obama's lying through his teeth and bilking folks out of their money.

I asked if you expect HIM (as in Tony) to be happy with this mess.
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« Reply #73 on: January 04, 2013, 09:21:09 PM »

haha i got it from the moment you spouted it, which is why I dont understand why youre making such a big deal about it.

Were paying a higher % than the last 10 years, we have less money in our take home pay now.

Obama/congress could have made this permenant just like they did the others. They decided to let it return to pre bush rates taking more money out of our hands and causing business cost per employee to increase.

All the while spending more and more with no real intention of cutting spending.

and you sit here and split hairs Roll Eyes

no you are not
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« Reply #74 on: January 04, 2013, 09:31:09 PM »

no you are not
really when did the tax cut get put in place then?
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