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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #75 on: January 08, 2013, 10:25:10 AM »
lot of holes in those stories on him,,,bbing urban legend...
Flex was even hyping him back then! What a crock of shit,Bodybuilding fans will believe anything!

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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #76 on: January 08, 2013, 10:38:35 AM »
Flex was even hyping him back then! What a crock of shit,Bodybuilding fans will believe anything!
i remember they had tape measure around his quads and looked in disbelief ..think it was tom deters and vic stting there smiling smugly as the tape stretched...

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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #77 on: January 08, 2013, 12:37:12 PM »
i thought phil hill was freakier than vic

Vic would probly make Phil disappear if he ever walked in front of him on stage lol

And I thought the argument here was that he was one of the biggest bodybuilders ever, not the best looking. no matter how much people think he looked like shit guy was still fking huge. ahead of his time.

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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #78 on: January 08, 2013, 01:06:25 PM »
Vic would probly make Phil disappear if he ever walked in front of him on stage lol

And I thought the argument here was that he was one of the biggest bodybuilders ever, not the best looking. no matter how much people think he looked like shit guy was still fking huge. ahead of his time.

As if Heath has never beaten bodybuilders bigger than he.

Richards won't step foot onstage. That would actually require him being ripped, which could spell trouble for him.

Besides, how can we get a good measure of how big he really his, relative to other bodybuilders, when he's almost always in off-season mode, while standing next to bodybuilders, fresh off a contest?


Richards gets the flak he does, because he constantly criticized IFBB pros, while not having the guts to step onstage against them. As I recall, there was little fear of Richards. On the contrary, a number of bodybuilders couldn't wait for him to compete, so they could beat him and expose him as being little more than hype.


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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #79 on: January 08, 2013, 01:11:25 PM »
As if Heath has never beaten bodybuilders bigger than he.

Richards won't step foot onstage. That would actually require him being ripped, which could spell trouble for him.

Besides, how can we get a good measure of how big he really his, relative to other bodybuilders, when he's almost always in off-season mode, while standing next to bodybuilders, fresh off a contest?


Richards gets the flak he does, because he constantly criticized IFBB pros, while not having the guts to step onstage against them. As I recall, there was little fear of Richards. On the contrary, a number of bodybuilders couldn't wait for him to compete, so they could beat him and expose him as being little more than hype.


i think you were talking about Dorian, Flex, and Dillett with your last statement.

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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #80 on: January 08, 2013, 01:15:02 PM »
i think you were talking about Dorian, Flex, and Dillett with your last statement.
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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #81 on: January 08, 2013, 01:19:54 PM »
i think you were talking about Dorian, Flex, and Dillett with your last statement.

Indeed, I was. Richards was being hyped for years. He got a pro card, by winning a contest that (as far as I know) was not a pro qualifier prior to his entering the show and hasn't been one, since then.

American Muscle claimed that Richards entered that show, because he wasn't a US citizen. But, it turns out he is; but, he's a dual citizens of Nigeria and the USA. He claims that he entered the Nigeria show, because the politics of the NPC wouldn't have allowed him to turn pro, by winning the USA or Nationals (couldn't he have won the North American, run by the IFBB?).

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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #82 on: January 08, 2013, 03:19:41 PM »
must have been juicing since hes about 13 lol

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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #83 on: January 08, 2013, 05:48:21 PM »
in the pic of him hitting the fdb he looks lean to me. could lose another 20lb...?

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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #84 on: January 08, 2013, 06:29:05 PM »
LIKE SAYING HE'S CFL GREAT QUARTERBACK CUT IN THE NFL...RICHARDS WAS EVEN HYPED IN THE BATTLE OF 88 MR O VID,,,HE WAS HUGE BUT U COULD TELL DIETING WAS NOT HIS THING.LIKED BEING BIG AND THE WHAT'IF'TAG TO HIS NAME/BUILD...

No the CFL analogy is silly here becuase the CFL guy is actually playing in a pro football league.
Victor never competed in any pro show or even a high level NPC show.
If Victor competed in NABBA we would have actual contest condition pics and stats.

he never competed as a pro and his myth will always be bigger then reality would have.

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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #85 on: January 08, 2013, 06:53:33 PM »
Bro the bottom line is when kovacks turn pro he was over 300 on contest day, was 365 with abs, his arms were fucken huge and yes I have seen Victor R, Ronnie, Markus, Gunter and no one and I mean no one comes close to kovacks.

Now imagine he never competed as a pro, the whole world would be saying he could have been Mr. Olympia, everyone would, the hype he was generating was outrageous. I remember reading an article in Musclemag saying Kovacks is going to the NOC and he will win that and will head to the Olympia at 340lb shredded and that he will make evryone look small. Go look at his pics of him at 365, he looked good, looked proportioned and was fairly lean, but brother contest day is a whole knew ball game, it is night and day. Plain and simple.
kovacks arms ... not a fan of.. its shape and density that makes the arm...
not stretching a tabpe around it...againt kovacks  frame his arms didnt look big... shape and insertions sucked... lacking peak.... etc
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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #86 on: January 08, 2013, 06:59:57 PM »
kovacks arms ... not a fan of.. its shape and density that makes the arm...
not stretching a tabpe around it...againt kovacks  frame his arms didnt look big... shape and insertions sucked... lacking peak.... etc
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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #87 on: January 08, 2013, 11:41:42 PM »
kovacks arms ... not a fan of.. its shape and density that makes the arm...
not stretching a tabpe around it...againt kovacks  frame his arms didnt look big... shape and insertions sucked... lacking peak.... etc
Yes and no, he really did lose tremendous arm size from 10-12% bodyfat to 5% bodyfat, we are talking at least 2.5 inches here.

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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #88 on: January 09, 2013, 12:25:03 AM »
long torso..

if he competed he would have been dillett's level or a little less imo..

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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #89 on: January 09, 2013, 10:12:23 PM »
long torso..

if he competed he would have been dillett's level or a little less imo..

Magnificent physique.

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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #90 on: January 10, 2013, 12:33:51 AM »
But look at his physique. :o

Torso too long/ lats are high. Would not succeed!

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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #91 on: January 10, 2013, 01:06:48 AM »
...yes, guys, it's true, Vic Richards was very critical of bodybuilders, but if you wanna' talk about sheer freak appeal...well. Went up to see Dr. Jekot one afternoon, some of the older members here may remember that name. In his waiting room were Rory Leidulmeyer(sp?), the Barbarians...and Vic Richards. His size was unbelievable, guys!  It was one of those things where you just go-"it just doesn't make sense!"  His quads were super gigantic...nobody in that room was anywhere near his size..and he's only like 5'9"'!  So, yeah, dreams unfulfiled and all that, but when you are talking about an immense fucking freak...in person, Vic was(is) definitely that!

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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #92 on: January 10, 2013, 01:26:03 AM »
Dexter Jackson has a long torso and high lats. He won. Problem is that Nigerians have very thick skin. See Beyeke. Same thing. His physique his the perfect powerful physique. Dude could do a damn vacuum at his size.  Had he been able to get into Coleman 98 condition, then he would have been a multiple Olympia winner but would have, could have, should have.
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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #93 on: January 10, 2013, 02:49:45 AM »
Dexter Jackson has a long torso and high lats. He won. Problem is that Nigerians have very thick skin. See Beyeke. Same thing. His physique his the perfect powerful physique. Dude could do a damn vacuum at his size.  Had he been able to get into Coleman 98 condition, then he would have been a multiple Olympia winner but would have, could have, should have.
No not where it counts, from the front high lats are not the problem, it is from the back where the problem lies because having high lats means you will have a weak lower back. Dexter has very low lat insertions from the back, it is only from the front that he has high lats which does not qualify as a bad thing in bodybuiding terms if his lower back has low insertions, what people fail to realize is the your lower back muscles are also your lats.

As for torso another feature that can not be compared to Dexter as Dexter's long torso is not as dramatic as Victors. So those feature would most certainly hurt Victor and as well as the thick skin as you mentioned, so overall even if he got peeled he would not do well on stage,

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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #94 on: January 10, 2013, 05:41:48 AM »
No not where it counts, from the front high lats are not the problem, it is from the back where the problem lies because having high lats means you will have a weak lower back. Dexter has very low lat insertions from the back, it is only from the front that he has high lats which does not qualify as a bad thing in bodybuiding terms if his lower back has low insertions, what people fail to realize is the your lower back muscles are also your lats.

As for torso another feature that can not be compared to Dexter as Dexter's long torso is not as dramatic as Victors. So those feature would most certainly hurt Victor and as well as the thick skin as you mentioned, so overall even if he got peeled he would not do well on stage,
all good points on a bbing stage perspective,,street and gym he is immense,,,dex gets peeled dosen't affect him...

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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #95 on: January 10, 2013, 02:54:30 PM »
Magnificent physique.

 :o

to be honest if I ever wanted to be a freak, i'd choose this look. Vic was a bull, pure endo meso which accounts to most of his size. he's be big without even lifting.

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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #96 on: January 10, 2013, 02:57:53 PM »
No not where it counts, from the front high lats are not the problem, it is from the back where the problem lies because having high lats means you will have a weak lower back. Dexter has very low lat insertions from the back, it is only from the front that he has high lats which does not qualify as a bad thing in bodybuiding terms if his lower back has low insertions, what people fail to realize is the your lower back muscles are also your lats.

As for torso another feature that can not be compared to Dexter as Dexter's long torso is not as dramatic as Victors. So those feature would most certainly hurt Victor and as well as the thick skin as you mentioned, so overall even if he got peeled he would not do well on stage,

Good points bro. But I don't think his lats are as high and torso as long as being portrayed. Dennis Wolf would be an example of that.
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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #97 on: January 10, 2013, 04:03:45 PM »

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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #98 on: January 10, 2013, 05:27:11 PM »
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Re: Victor Richards Dwarfing Don Long
« Reply #99 on: January 10, 2013, 05:30:12 PM »
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