Liberal Bullying: enough is enough.

[tu_holmes]

stimulus, auto bailout, dodd-frank, healthcare, student loan forgiveness after 20 years of payments and income based repayment...

So that's 4 years?

Fuck man... I could have done all of that in like an afternoon!

This is what this man does to make 400K a year?

You are not really helping his cause too much... You realize this right?

[tbombz]

LOOOOL Oh boy.... we need to talk bro.. we're moving to Castro Valley chief, you need to come over for a drink while we watch the sunset....  

sounds fantastic. by the end of the night well have a obama/biden sticker on the back of the hummer.  

[Alex23]

My brother from another mother

     
“Anarchism, really stands for the liberation of the human mind from the dominion of religion; the liberation of the human body from the dominion of property; liberation from the shackles and restraint of government.”

Sounds libertarian to me.

[Roger Bacon]

Lol, bold statement with zero backing broseph.

I honestly use to think tbombz was a mental case.  I think he's getting his act together

[Alex23]

sounds fantastic. by the end of the night well have a obama/biden sticker on the back of the hummer.  

HAHHAHAHA I HIGHLY DOUBT.

BABABABABA BOOOOOMMMMMM!!!

[Roger Bacon]

     
“Anarchism, really stands for the liberation of the human mind from the dominion of religion; the liberation of the human body from the dominion of property; liberation from the shackles and restraint of government.”

Sounds libertarian to me.

I guess I'm referring to "No-one has the right to coerce or expect obedience from others except where necessary to protect the equal rights of others."

[tu_holmes]

Amended to reflect the state of Law that will occur once hj.res.15 has passed, and we can finally bask in the glorious warm light that will be President Elect for Life Obama.

 

[Alex23]

I honestly use to think tbombz was a mental case.  I think he's getting his act together

He always had it, well mentally. The kid is a diversity generator, not a conformity enforcer / commiter. An Athenian while most of us are Spartans (no homo).

[tbombz]

So that's 4 years?

Fuck man... I could have done all of that in like an afternoon!

This is what this man does to make 400K a year?

You are not really helping his cause too much... You realize this right?

that was his first two years.  lots of big shit. getting healthcare reform alone is huge. whether you like it or hate it. american politicians have been trying to get some sort of universal coverage on the books for over a century. obama got it done, and he did so by using a plan devised by republicans for republicans. and he got the democrats to back it.  thats a huge achievement. again, whether your like it or hate it.  plus all the other stuff.  like student loan forgiveness/repayment by income. thats gonna be huge for the economy going forward.  and the auto bailout - saved an entire industry. dodd-frank = oversight over wall street?? whodda thunk that possible.   anyways, not saying i agree with any of those policies.

[tu_holmes]

that was his first two years.  lots of big shit. getting healthcare reform alone is huge. whether you like it or hate it. american politicians have been trying to get some sort of universal coverage on the books for over a century. obama got it done, and he did so by using a plan devised by republicans for republicans. and he got the democrats to back it.  thats a huge achievement. again, whether your like it or hate it.  plus all the other stuff.  like student loan forgiveness/repayment by income. thats gonna be huge for the economy going forward.  and the auto bailout - saved an entire industry. dodd-frank = oversight over wall street?? whodda thunk that possible.   anyways, not saying i agree with any of those policies.

So he worked for 2 years and that was it?

[Radical Plato]

im an anarchist who votes for democrats.  libertarians are cowards afraid of where their moral compasse wants to take them. 

Anarchists and Libertarians are the same thing! Interchangeable

[Roger Bacon]

He always had it, well mentally. The kid is a diversity generator, not a conformity enforcer / commiter. An Athenian while most of us are Spartans (no homo).

Can you please put Avesher back on the line?

[Alex23]

Anarchists and Libertarians are the same thing! Interchangeable

Please explain, I'm curious..  serious. 

[Shockwave]

Please explain, I'm curious..  serious. 

I believe the ideals are fairly similar.

[tbombz]

HAHHAHAHA I HIGHLY DOUBT.

BABABABABA BOOOOOMMMMMM!!!

     we can paint a nice big one of these on the side

[tbombz]

anarchism is the lack of a government which is authorized by open elections or otherwise and therefore a lack of all governmnet-backed theft and coercion - aka taxes and laws.

libertarians believe that mild theft and coercion are acceptable - in the name of the public defense.  small taxes for military and police. thats about it. but still theft and coercion/taxes and laws. (theft=taxes, coercion=laws)

[Alex23]

I believe the ideals are fairly similar.

I assumed that part; please explain further.

[tbombz]

I assumed that part; please explain further.

see my above post    im sort of an expert 

[Radical Plato]

Please explain, I'm curious..  serious.  

You could write an essay on the topic, but Liberationists want the same thing as Anarchists, they both complain about the excessive Interference from Government.  Libertarians are generally open to some minimal governance whereby anarchists essentially want zero governance.   Libertarian is a more friendly word; anarchist is generally perceived to be hostile. Libertarians are usually considered fringe; anarchists are usually considered dangerous.  An anarchist is an extreme libertarian

[tu_holmes]

You could write an essay on the topic, but Liberationists want the same thing as Anarchists, they both complain about the excessive Interference from Government.  Libertarians are generally open to some minimal governance whereby anarchists essentially want zero governance.   Libertarian is a more friendly word; anarchist is generally perceived to be hostile. Libertarians are usually considered fringe; anarchists are usually considered dangerous.

I don't think that's exactly true... I think Anarchists want ZERO government, where libertarians want government to do minimal functions and stay out of their personal lives, while providing some functions and enforcing laws that are heinous and not just to make money.

I suppose I could be over simplifying, but I see a distinct difference myself.

[Roger Bacon]

You could write an essay on the topic, but Liberationists want the same thing as Anarchists, they both complain about the excessive Interference from Government.  Libertarians are generally open to some minimal governance whereby anarchists essentially want zero governance.   Libertarian is a more friendly word; anarchist is generally perceived to be hostile. Libertarians are usually considered fringe; anarchists are usually considered dangerous.  An anarchist is an extreme libertarian

What do you personally think of Libertarianism/Anarchism E-Kul?

[ChopperRider]

Auto bailout?

You meant, "making sure the unions were off the hook", didn't you?

[Radical Plato]

What do you personally think of Libertarianism/Anarchism E-Kul?

I have been an Anarchist/Libertarian for a long time, I deeply respect the views of men like Noam Chomsky.

[Roger Bacon]

Auto bailout?

You meant, "making sure the unions were off the hook", didn't you?

Toyota and Honda would have filled that void in a few months, better business producing a better product.  

Apparently they're non union.  Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

[cephissus]

I have been an Anarchist/Libertarian for a long time, I deeply respect the views of men like Noam Chomsky.

all the while sporting a nietzsche avatar lolololol it never gets old