It's a darn good question and it's interesting that the slack jawed wimps who currently populate Getbig don't even lift weights, therefore they become defensive and sarcastic when bench pressing is mentioned. At some point, the real bodybuilders left Getbig and migrated to other Bodybuilding chat forums. What's ledt here are a bunch of pussies who have never even worked out. I'm doing my best to turn things around.