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« on: January 14, 2013, 09:57:47 AM »

Was curious if one takes caffeine and EC for a while, what could reverse the desynthesization without taking time off. Make them KICK again and work as they used to.

Does ketotifen do the trick like it does for clen? I am curious if there are supps/meds that do this for caffeine and ephedrine
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2013, 01:40:43 PM »

I've heard tyrosine helps get that kick back...don't know the exact dosage required though. Btw ephedrine's thermogenic effects don't decrease with time but yeah the boost in energy will....I never felt it myself even at high doses though.  Undecided
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2013, 04:39:37 PM »

abstinence works
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2013, 04:58:18 PM »

abstinence works


You must be a very dark humored individual in real life  Roll Eyes Sarcasm and cynicism are positive values in life  Roll Eyes Note my sarcasm, am I doin it right?

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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2013, 05:07:45 PM »

You must be a very dark humored individual in real life  Roll Eyes Sarcasm and cynicism are positive values in life  Roll Eyes Note my sarcasm, am I doin it right?

 Grin

pretty not bad... i'm kinda serious though... if you search old posts of mine you can read about how i once abused stims... when i cut them all out (for 6 months) the crash was unreal...

big mistake... but tapering off over a moderately short period (say 1-2 months) and then staying stimulant free for another 1-2 months will let you start ramping up all over again

i don't think anything else will make a difference... i am not aware of any drug in the world that can 'refresh' the adrenals
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2013, 05:11:59 PM »

i don't think anything else will make a difference... i am not aware of any drug in the world that can 'refresh' the adrenals


I've come across some OTC products that purportedly "re-sensitize" receptors in the manner mentioned above, but I never looked into any of them, and I honestly have no knowledge of their legitimacy. With that in mind, I will say that I would be skeptical.
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2013, 05:28:51 PM »

Well ketotifen definetely works for the receptors clen hits.

I am also not 'abusing' them but using them while i'm cutting pre workout and not all the time. People who use them throughout the whole day maybe abuse them.
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2013, 05:33:04 PM »

Well ketotifen definetely works for the receptors clen hits.

I am also not 'abusing' them but using them while i'm cutting pre workout and not all the time. People who use them throughout the whole day maybe abuse them.


the terms use, abuse, prescribed all mean the same thing

you are taking a drug... in this case for recreational use

and if you are just cycling on/off of them then you should never build up any real resistance
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2013, 06:18:21 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2013, 06:30:10 PM »


sounds safe  Undecided
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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2013, 06:42:20 PM »

sounds safe  Undecided

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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2013, 08:01:59 PM »

I drink four or five cups of coffee every day.  I'm still about 90% as sensitive to caffeine as I've always been.
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2013, 05:39:32 AM »

I drink four or five cups of coffee every day.  I'm still about 90% as sensitive to caffeine as I've always been.

yeah i find that as long as i only consume moderate amounts of caffeine i stay pretty sensitive to it...

i stick to tea and coffee and sources these days though
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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2013, 05:41:34 AM »

I stopped drinking coffee during the Day...2 cups in the morning and thatīs it.
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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2013, 10:12:44 AM »

I stopped drinking coffee during the Day...2 cups in the morning and thatīs it.

I'm the same. But I like white and oolong tea during the day with cassia cinnamon bark.
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« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2013, 12:05:09 PM »

i dont drink coffee, i love green tea. I have access to all sorts of tea and coffee at work for free, but i still opt for green tea Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2013, 12:53:29 PM »

i dont drink coffee, i love green tea. I have access to all sorts of tea and coffee at work for free, but i still opt for green tea Smiley

Why don't you like coffee?  The taste, or is it something else? Huh
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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2013, 02:39:36 PM »

I'm the same. But I like white and oolong tea during the day with cassia cinnamon bark.

Can you add any of that cinammon bark in the new vaporizer?  Grin
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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2013, 05:30:15 PM »

Can you add any of that cinammon bark in the new vaporizer?  Grin

Been too busy using them (got 2) for other thing...
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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2013, 05:35:31 PM »

Been too busy using them (got 2) for other thing...

How you liking it?

Looks nice btw...never knew it existed till you posted it. Outta the loop on those things these days  Undecided

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« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2013, 06:20:09 PM »

How you liking it?

Looks nice btw...never knew it existed till you posted it. Outta the loop on those things these days  Undecided




the ez vape (stationary use, under $100) is awesome... cheap, easy to use and works very well... seriously... a very small amount of herb = very high and no carcinogens

the da vinci (portable, $220) is better... i bought both because i do not want to overuse the da vinci.... if i'm home i use the ez vape

regardless, neither of them produce any real smell and certainly no smoke... i use them in the house (in my bathroom with the fan on) and my wife cannot tell

vaporizing is the way to go... i even tried tobacco for fun... the nicotine kick was UNREAL... again: no smoke
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« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2013, 06:38:25 PM »


the ez vape (stationary use, under $100) is awesome... cheap, easy to use and works very well... seriously... a very small amount of herb = very high and no carcinogens

the da vinci (portable, $220) is better... i bought both because i do not want to overuse the da vinci.... if i'm home i use the ez vape

regardless, neither of them produce any real smell and certainly no smoke... i use them in the house (in my bathroom with the fan on) and my wife cannot tell

vaporizing is the way to go... i even tried tobacco for fun... the nicotine kick was UNREAL... again: no smoke

Does she suspect anything when you start rummaging through the cabinets for doritos like a racoon ?

But yeah, that davinci one you picked up looks great cause you could use it anywhere due to the lack of odour.....oh the possibilities.

And yes vaporizing is much better....health wise  Grin


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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2013, 07:20:33 PM »

Does she suspect anything when you start rummaging through the cabinets for doritos like a racoon ?

But yeah, that davinci one you picked up looks great cause you could use it anywhere due to the lack of odour.....oh the possibilities.

And yes vaporizing is much better....health wise  Grin




She doesn't mind if I vape. She'd rather the house not smell like it.
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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2013, 08:55:23 PM »

Why don't you like coffee?  The taste, or is it something else? Huh

Never been a fan, I tried many times THERE WAS a phase at work where I started drinking two cups in the afternoon, but the taste is meh to me.. I get free coffees, teas, etc... at work so I have choices.

Somehow I love green tea and can't complain Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2013, 08:58:39 PM »

Never been a fan, I tried many times THERE WAS a phase at work where I started drinking two cups in the afternoon, but the taste is meh to me.. I get free coffees, teas, etc... at work so I have choices.

Somehow I love green tea and can't complain Smiley

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