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« on: January 16, 2013, 11:10:39 AM »

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2013/0115/New-York-passes-tough-gun-laws-draconian-or-trailblazing-video

One month after the tragic shootings of 20 children and six adults in Newtown, Conn., the state of New York has passed the most comprehensive gun legislation in the nation and also one of the toughest.

It clamps down on the sale of ammunition and the sale of guns, requiring background checks on even the private sale of guns – except to family members. The law also attempts to keep the mentally ill from obtaining guns. It was signed into law by Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) late Tuesday afternoon.

In his annual State of the State address last week, Governor Cuomo promised to "enact the toughest assault-weapon ban in the nation, period."

The New York law will put the state on par with California, which had the toughest gun laws as far as assault weapons are concerned. New York used to require a two feature test to call a gun an assault weapon. Now, it will only require a single feature – such as a flash suppressor on the muzzle or a detachable magazine – to be considered an assault weapon.

However, gun-control advocates say what makes the new legislation the toughest is the state’s new restrictions on ammunition. New York will define a large capacity magazine as any that holds more than seven rounds, down from 10. Anyone owning a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds will be required to sell it out-of-state within a year.

In addition, gun sellers will be required to do a background check before selling ammunition, and residents will be required to buy ammunition through a licensed dealer. If a buyer makes a large purchase of ammo, the dealer is required to alert law enforcement officials.

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“No other state is doing what New York is doing to regulate ammunition,” says Laura Cutilletta, a senior staff attorney at the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence in San Francisco.

The National Rifle Association (NRA) said it is “outraged at the draconian gun control bill” that was rushed through Albany and it said it would consider “all possible legal challenges in the near future.”

New York may be the first state to pass legislation since the Newtown violence, but other governors are also proposing new laws as well.

Among the proposals, in Delaware, Gov. Jack Markell (D) is proposing to ban all assault weapons, ban high-capacity magazines of more than 10 rounds, and require background checks for all purchases. Virginia and New Jersey are proposing mental-health screening and home inspections prior to a gun purchase. And California and Connecticut have pending legislation regulating the sale of ammunition.

“There is a lot of activity in almost half the states,” says Ms. Cutilletta. “A flurry of bills are being introduced, such as restrictions on assault weapons and strengthening background-check requirements.”

An assault weapon was used in the Newtown shootings; in the mass shootings in Aurora, Colo., that killed 12 people and wounded 58; and in the killing of two first responders in Webster, N.Y.

In New York, Cuomo was able to push the legislation through without hearings or public comment. The NRA said the legislation helped “fuel” Cuomo’s political aspirations.

However, Jamie Chandler, a political scientist at Hunter College in New York, says the swift passage is indicative of Cuomo’s political muscle. “Cuomo has gained a lot of credibility over the last 18 months and has a high approval rating,” says Mr. Chandler.

Cuomo has pushed through a gay-marriage law and received high marks for his response to superstorm Sandy, which struck the state in late October.

However, to get the legislation through the Senate in Albany, Cuomo needed the cooperation of Republicans. He won their approval with tougher stands on crime. For example, he agreed to increase the penalty for multiple crimes committed with guns. In addition, there is a provision that would mandate life sentences without parole for anyone who murders a first responder.

Chandler points out that Cuomo received encouragement from New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg (Ind.), who is the co-chair of Mayors Against Illegal Guns. In 2006, Mr. Bloomberg pushed the state legislature to make carrying a loaded illegal handgun a Class C felony with a minimum of a 3-1/2 year jail sentence.

On Tuesday evening, Bloomberg praised the passage of the legislation. “The bipartisan cooperation that produced these bills sets an example for Washington to follow, and it makes clear that the Senate’s new majority coalition is capable of working with the Assembly and delivering results for New York State,” he said in a statement.

Although the New York laws are now stronger, Cutilletta says there are still holes that can be filled in the future. For example, she says, New York State has no restriction on buying multiple guns. In California, an individual has to wait a month before buying a second hand gun.

“It can be addressed at some point down the road,” she says.
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2013, 11:12:10 AM »

They are right on the money!!1


Good job New York
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2013, 11:14:10 AM »

They are right on the money!!1


Good job New York

Shut up troll.


FUCK NEW YORK. The gutter of America.
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2013, 11:15:38 AM »

Shut up troll.


FUCK NEW YORK. The gutter of America.

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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2013, 11:31:17 AM »

New York - don't they have the highest murder rates in the USA.  And the gun killings are from illegal guns?  So what will this achieve except disarm honest people?
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2013, 11:34:01 AM »

New York - don't they have the highest murder rates in the USA.  And the gun killings are from illegal guns?  So what will this achieve except disarm honest people?

You have watched too many mafia movies. lol. I am not sure where NY falls, but definitely not one of the highest.
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2013, 11:38:17 AM »

New York - don't they have the highest murder rates in the USA.  And the gun killings are from illegal guns?  So what will this achieve except disarm honest people?

I don't see one piece of writing in there that takes away a single gun
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2013, 12:35:10 PM »

New York - don't they have the highest murder rates in the USA.  And the gun killings are from illegal guns?  So what will this achieve except disarm honest people?

Yeah, you might as well legalise things that will happen anyway. Most rapes and thefts are illegal but they happen anyway, legalise that shit ASAP!

Giving everyone a weapon of death is gonna be like the wild west. Epic regression.





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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2013, 12:37:32 PM »

I don't see one piece of writing in there that takes away a single gun

I was referring to this:

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In his annual State of the State address last week, Governor Cuomo promised to "enact the toughest assault-weapon ban in the nation, period.
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2013, 12:38:36 PM »

Yeah, you might as well legalise things that will happen anyway. Most rapes and thefts are illegal but they happen anyway, legalise that shit ASAP!

Giving everyone a weapon of death is gonna be like the wild west. Epic regression.







These rights already exist in the USA - and it is not like the wild west at all.
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2013, 07:58:58 PM »

Draconian. Cuomo is a bleeding heart liberal just like his father.
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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2013, 08:45:06 PM »

In all my years with the NYPD i never saw a legal gun used in a crime. So WTF does it matter? I wish you people were all armed to the teeth so by the time I get there all I have to do is scrape up a criminals dead body.
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2013, 12:21:19 PM »

Punishing law abiding citizens while doing nothing to stop criminals or solve the problem.  Liberalism at it's finest.

There already was an assault weapon ban and a high capacity magazine ban.  It did not impact the violent crime rate in any way. 

All New York did was wipe their ass with the constitution which they had wanted to do for years.  Sandy Hook just gave them an excuse.  They passed this bill lightning quick and it was voted on behind closed doors at midnight.  Gotta love that democracy!
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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2013, 05:56:48 PM »

In all my years with the NYPD i never saw a legal gun used in a crime. So WTF does it matter? I wish you people were all armed to the teeth so by the time I get there all I have to do is scrape up a criminals dead body.

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