PES Supplements (Anabeta Elite and Erase Pro)

[Powerlift66]

Best natural stack ever. (For me)
I've never juiced so when a natty supplement works, I know it.
Great products (too bad they are pricy)..

[WOOO]

Best natural stack ever. (For me)
I've never juiced so when a natty supplement works, I know it.
Great products (too bad they are pricy)..

*sigh*

am i the only one who understands the supplement industry?

[a_ahmed]

woo you seem to talk shit too much about supplements thats not the same as 'understanding'

Yes there are gimmicky bs supplements like :



However being so stubborn/arrogant and just going around "oh not supplements again" is not smart either.

Erase works, I used it while getting off trt, i use it now even while on. I even showed it to my doctor and he said its good to go. We had blood work etc...

Erase works period.

Now stop talking shit about all supplements just because you know that the supplement industry takes advantage of ignorant people. That does not mean all are bullshit.

PES' Alpha T2 is also an amazing supplement.

PES Erase is an AI like aromasin actually and cheaper than getting aromasin. Since it's derived from 7oxo it also raises thyroid and lowers cortisol. It's a good supp and works well. Natties love it and ppl on cycle who have used it report good results from it.

[WOOO]

woo you seem to talk shit too much about supplements thats not the same as 'understanding'

it's not an industry

it's a con

too lazy to argue about it

[WOOO]

ok... having a beer... less lazy

This is the story of the bill that started the modern supplement industry

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/the-scam-scam/



More reading

http://voices.yahoo.com/fda-regulation-diet-herbal-supplement-industry-1626457.html?cat=71



Bigger, Stronger, Faster put it in a 3 minutes video...  http://www.wayandpath.com/2011/08/evil-oompa-loompas/

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mfQTiumsO4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mfQTiumsO4</a>

[a_ahmed]

Okay good for you.

PES erase works. You're wrong about generalizations. Now what

[Powerlift66]

Lots of scam supplements out there. Some (like Erase) work.

[WOOO]

Lots of scam supplements out there. Some (like Erase) work.

Ok. Assume it does work. How do you know it's not lethal?

[a_ahmed]

Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione

Dude will you let off? You're wrong when you're wrong. Some supplements are obviously scam, and if a person is dumb enough not to do their research so they be damned. That's their problem. That does not mean 'everything' is a scam.

Apparently my doctor didn't find it to be a scam, but you do. HMM!

[WOOO]

Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione

Dude will you let off? You're wrong when you're wrong. Some supplements are obviously scam, and if a person is dumb enough not to do their research so they be damned. That's their problem. That does not mean 'everything' is a scam.

Apparently my doctor didn't find it to be a scam, but you do. HMM!

call me crazy

but i don't put anything in this temple that can't be confirmed as safe...

any long term studies of it's safety?

any documented double-blind studies showing benefits?

what about any meta-analyses of several studies showing the results over a variety of patient groups?


you can gain 10lbs instantly by drinking 10lbs of lead


my reply "Ok. Assume it does work. How do you know it's not lethal?" was a serious question



species nutrition is just the most recent example of a supplement company selling poison...

[AVBG]

Snake oil or steroids - no such thing (aside from Creatine) as "supplements"

[WOOO]

Snake oil or steroids - no such thing (aside from Creatine) as "supplements"

that's been my experience... whey protein and the like are just other forms of food

[AVBG]

that's been my experience... whey protein and the like are just other forms of food

Bingo