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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #150 on: January 24, 2013, 01:05:17 PM »
Everyone is a "gimmick" except for you, "Metabolic"   ::) 

haha!  Metabolic the Brazilian lives in a country where innocent law abiding people are restricted from owning guns by their government, while they lead the world in gun related homicide.

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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #151 on: January 24, 2013, 01:06:34 PM »
haha!  Metabolic the Brazilian lives in a country where innocent law abiding people are restricted from owning guns by their government, while they lead the world in gun related homicide.

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Was there supposed to be a funny part to that post?

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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #152 on: January 24, 2013, 01:18:29 PM »
Was there supposed to be a funny part to that post?

The haha was in reference to Chadwick.

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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #153 on: January 24, 2013, 06:36:04 PM »
These milqeutoast bitches who willingly relinquish their rights to protect themselves deserve whatever happens to them.

True.

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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #154 on: January 24, 2013, 06:48:34 PM »
The main reason SOME non US countries have less gun murders is more cultural than gun law related.

For example, yes Australia has very few gun killings SINCE the ban, but we had VERY FEW BEFORE the ban.

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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #155 on: January 24, 2013, 07:00:34 PM »
REALLY, these gun laws are complete bullshit.

Alcohol kills far more people than guns, and it is not a "necessary" part of society, so why don't the cowards ban that?

Here in Aus we just has some drunk woman drive her car into a house and kill a baby.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/15949747/baby-dies-after-car-crashes-into-house/






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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #156 on: January 25, 2013, 06:03:08 AM »
REALLY, these gun laws are complete bullshit.

Alcohol kills far more people than guns, and it is not a "necessary" part of society, so why don't the cowards ban that?

Here in Aus we just has some drunk woman drive her car into a house and kill a baby.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/15949747/baby-dies-after-car-crashes-into-house/






If Asstralia is so gun free and peaceful why does that cop carry a gun ???
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #157 on: January 25, 2013, 06:17:29 AM »
If Asstralia is so gun free and peaceful why does that cop carry a gun ???

Because they need guns to control unarmed Aussies.  If they were also unarmed they would have the shit beaten out of them.

In short:  Police state.   We have guns, YOU DON'T.

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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #158 on: January 25, 2013, 06:32:53 AM »
  It is humorous, no sad, that those that fear guns, or dogs, willingly get in a vehicle and drive around oblivious to the fact that their chances of dying increase exponentially compared to a gun yet there is very little to no outcry to increase the requirement/training/background checks to get a drivers license/purchase a vehicle

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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #159 on: January 25, 2013, 06:49:00 AM »
If Asstralia is so gun free and peaceful why does that cop carry a gun ???
To shoot gun nutters!
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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #160 on: January 25, 2013, 06:53:45 AM »
 It is humorous, no sad, that those that fear guns, or dogs, willingly get in a vehicle and drive around oblivious to the fact that their chances of dying increase exponentially compared to a gun yet there is very little to no outcry to increase the requirement/training/background checks to get a drivers license/purchase a vehicle
Unlike guns and dogs, cars and other transport vehicles offer the community as a whole a benefit, guns and dogs are just a selfish indulgence.  Also, their is constant revision of existing laws and licenses and attempts to make cars in general safer.  Nobody complains that all new cars come with air-bags, unlike Gun owners who baulk at any attempt to improve the homicide rate linked to gun ownership.
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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #161 on: January 25, 2013, 07:02:22 AM »
Unlike guns and dogs, cars and other transport vehicles offer the community as a whole a benefit, guns and dogs are just a selfish indulgence.  Also, their is constant revision of existing laws and licenses and attempts to make cars in general safer.  Nobody complains that all new cars come with air-bags, unlike Gun owners who baulk at any attempt to improve the homicide rate linked to gun ownership.

  The world according to ekul. Anyway I WAS NOT talking about making cars safer but rather the PEOPLE who qualify and drive them. Nice try to divert the subject

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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #162 on: January 25, 2013, 07:05:31 AM »
  The world according to ekul. Anyway I WAS NOT talking about making cars safer but rather the PEOPLE who qualify and drive them. Nice try to divert the subject
I mentioned that, over the years they have made it increasingly harder to obtain these things, now days their are all types of hoops you have to jump through.  In my fathers day, he had a policemen tell him to get in the car, drive hundred yards down the road and then drive back again.  That was it, if you seemed OK enough doing that, you got your licence.  Not so thee days, I have 5 licences, and all required study and pretty reasonable practical tests that demonstrated your ability.
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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #163 on: January 25, 2013, 09:02:01 AM »
 It is humorous, no sad, that those that fear guns, or dogs, willingly get in a vehicle and drive around oblivious to the fact that their chances of dying increase exponentially compared to a gun yet there is very little to no outcry to increase the requirement/training/background checks to get a drivers license/purchase a vehicle

Are you so short minded that you are oblivious to the fact that cars help keep society going and guns ARE OF PRACTICALLY NO USE? And yes, there should be strict regulations for driving licenses, or do you not agree with that either?

With these sort of arguments....

ps: look into the concept of necessary risks

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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #164 on: January 25, 2013, 11:03:29 AM »
Are you so short minded that you are oblivious to the fact that cars help keep society going and guns ARE OF PRACTICALLY NO USE? And yes, there should be strict regulations for driving licenses, or do you not agree with that either?

With these sort of arguments....

ps: look into the concept of necessary risks

  Of course I agree with making drivers licenses tough to get, shit, vehicles are dangerous when operated by low watts. They also kill more people than guns do, this is all about saving lives right? Or no, is it about protecting some from their respective bogeymen

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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #165 on: January 25, 2013, 08:07:38 PM »
Australian Anti Gun Lobby now pushing to ban single shot bolt action rifles:

http://www.sportingshootermag.com.au/news/gun-control-lobby-begins-attack-on-bolt-action-rifles

USA this is coming YOUR WAY too. 

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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #166 on: January 25, 2013, 08:22:43 PM »
They also kill more people than guns do, this is all about saving lives right? Or no, is it about protecting some from their respective bogeymen
 Technically, currently overall gun deaths when factoring suicide and accidental gun deaths are about the same as car related fatalities.   In 2011 their were 32,163 total gun deaths and 32,367 car related fatalities.  When you consider the operating time of cars as opposed to guns, Guns are far more dangerous.  Essentially if everybody used guns as often as cars, their would be much more accidental deaths recorded.
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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #167 on: January 26, 2013, 05:48:14 AM »
 Technically, currently overall gun deaths when factoring suicide and accidental gun deaths are about the same as car related fatalities.   In 2011 their were 32,163 total gun deaths and 32,367 car related fatalities.  When you consider the operating time of cars as opposed to guns, Guns are far more dangerous.  Essentially if everybody used guns as often as cars, their would be much more accidental deaths recorded.

Just die of AIDS already, peter nibbler.
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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #168 on: January 26, 2013, 06:20:36 AM »
Are you so short minded that you are oblivious to the fact that cars help keep society going and guns ARE OF PRACTICALLY NO USE? And yes, there should be strict regulations for driving licenses, or do you not agree with that either?

With these sort of arguments....

ps: look into the concept of necessary risks

   Bodybuilding is of practically no use, make that absolutely no use, to society. Alcohol is of no use to society save some industrial and medical apps.
Cars are not needed, you can make do with public transit

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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #169 on: January 26, 2013, 07:15:38 AM »
Yes!! Ban cars!! We should rely on the government to provide specially licensed drivers that could be in charge of driving around and picking up people to and from work/grocery stores/relatives...think of the lives saved and think of the savings on the pollution!!!!

Ban cars!!! They are not a right, they are a privilege!!  And we have abused them too long!!!
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #170 on: January 26, 2013, 08:32:01 AM »
   Bodybuilding is of practically no use, make that absolutely no use, to society. Alcohol is of no use to society save some industrial and medical apps.
Cars are not needed, you can make do with public transit

No, this is just not true, stop inventing facts for sake of your own argument.  If people stopped using their cars the public systems would collapse IN A DAY. 

Bodybuilding is a personal choice of a lifestyle that can barely harm others.  Guns are a social threat in irresponsible (99% of the population) hands which is what makes them a different category than cars and steroids and other type of objects, their potential to cause social disorder.
Alcohol yes I agree, there is a very strong contradiction between legalized alcohol and not marihuana, coke, and other drugs (steroids).  For me, if alcohol is legal, many other drugs should be legal.

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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #171 on: January 26, 2013, 09:10:18 AM »
   Bodybuilding is of practically no use, make that absolutely no use, to society. Alcohol is of no use to society save some industrial and medical apps.
Cars are not needed, you can make do with public transit
It's more than just cars, the main benefit is the ease of transporting goods.  The food on the supermarket shelves just didn't magically appear there.  The machines and the medicine in the hospital just didn't magically arrive there.  Without truck, trains, planes and ships, the whole system would just fall apart.  The social benefit of this system is undeniable.  And, while body-building is of no purpose, it isn't linked to tens of thousands of deaths and injuries each year, unlike Guns. 

Alcohol can also be used as an alternative to fossil fuels, as they burn very cleanly, producing only carbon dioxide and water. Ethanol is considered a renewable fuel as it can be made from renewable sources such a sugar cane. It's really useful for countries without an oil industry as it reduces their dependence upon imports of petrol.  Without Ethanol, countries like Brazil would probably fall apart.  It can also be used in perfumes.  Alcohol is also fantastic for cleaning, it also has many other countless uses from killing fruit flies to disinfecting.
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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #172 on: January 26, 2013, 09:12:27 AM »
Yes!! Ban cars!! We should rely on the government to provide specially licensed drivers that could be in charge of driving around and picking up people to and from work/grocery stores/relatives...think of the lives saved and think of the savings on the pollution!!!!

Ban cars!!! They are not a right, they are a privilege!!  And we have abused them too long!!!
Agreed, That wouldn't bother me one bit!  Man is an adaptable creature, he will find a way to stay fed, clothed and sheltered.
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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #173 on: January 26, 2013, 09:12:38 AM »
Sounds like bullshit excuses come flying when it comes to taking away something certain people want.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Banning Guns in Australia just created huge illegal market
« Reply #174 on: January 26, 2013, 09:14:42 AM »
Sounds like bullshit excuses come flying when it comes to taking away something certain people want.
So are you saying that taking away what people want is not OK.  What if WHAT people WANT is too take away what other people WANT?
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