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« on: January 23, 2013, 01:16:50 PM »

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/01/government-spending-down-obama-era

just like other fucking lies, government spending is done under obama, after a massive amount of spending by bush, a large chunk of it unfunded.

For small government Bush really did ramp up the spending didn't he?
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2013, 01:43:51 PM »

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/01/government-spending-down-obama-era

just like other fucking lies, government spending is done under obama, after a massive amount of spending by bush, a large chunk of it unfunded.

For small government Bush really did ramp up the spending didn't he?

That chart is a conglomeration of Local+State+Federal spending. Obama has no direct control over the first 2 so this does not prove your assertion that Obama is spending less. It's a good try to show the graph but to prove your assertion you would need a graph and statistics that actually back up your claim. This graph doesn't do that.

Here are the numbers for Federal spending: Keep in mind these numbers below are "net" outlays, "gross" outlays will be quite a bit higher.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2013/assets/hist01z1.xls

2007:2.718 T
2008: 2.982 T
2009:3.517 T
2010:3.456 T
2011:3.603 T
2012: 3.795 T (Projected)
2017:4.531 T (Projected)

There are also plenty of websites to get numbers/graphs/outlooks/projections and historical data from. CBO/U.S. Dept of the Treasury etc.
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2013, 02:11:02 PM »

That chart is a conglomeration of Local+State+Federal spending. Obama has no direct control over the first 2 so this does not prove your assertion that Obama is spending less. It's a good try to show the graph but to prove your assertion you would need a graph and statistics that actually back up your claim. This graph doesn't do that.

Here are the numbers for Federal spending: Keep in mind these numbers below are "net" outlays, "gross" outlays will be quite a bit higher.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2013/assets/hist01z1.xls

2007:2.718 T
2008: 2.982 T
2009:3.517 T
2010:3.456 T
2011:3.603 T
2012: 3.795 T (Projected)
2017:4.531 T (Projected)

There are also plenty of websites to get numbers/graphs/outlooks/projections and historical data from. CBO/U.S. Dept of the Treasury etc.
How fucking dare you not defend Obama against these racists
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