Author Topic: if something Cant come from nothing then what thing could make everything (Read 3481 times)

Marty Champions · « **on:** January 30, 2013, 01:41:57 PM »

none other than light

even god claims to not be like man or not a man but he IS LIGHT as even claimed in the bible

the bible says YOU are the LIGHT of the world, and the bible said god is light

the jesus thing couldve been an alien smart guy that came here, we cant conclusively rule out aliens that are very bright and picked up on math 100000's of years ago and are still alive because they know math and know how to stay alive

but back on topic. light is creating the "holographic universe" you cant have a hologram without light either

so can light create matter, and sound is light isnt it? surely

Marty Champions · « **Reply #1 on:** January 30, 2013, 02:55:32 PM »

Matter is made up of charged particles due to the nature of atoms

whats an electric charge or charge

charge=light=electrec

negative charge=magnetic

che · « **Reply #2 on:** January 30, 2013, 03:10:21 PM »

Quote from: Johnny Falcon on January 30, 2013, 01:41:57 PM

none other than light

even god claims to not be like man or not a man but he IS LIGHT as even claimed in the bible

the bible says YOU are the LIGHT of the world, and the bible said god is light

the jesus thing couldve been an alien smart guy that came here, we cant conclusively rule out aliens that are very bright and picked up on math 100000's of years ago and are still alive because they know math and know how to stay alive

but back on topic. light is creating the "holographic universe" you cant have a hologram without light either

so can light create matter, and sound is light isnt it? surely

God didn't claim shit , no one has ever seen or talked to him/her/it .

Marty Champions · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2013, 03:17:05 PM »

Quote from: che on January 30, 2013, 03:10:21 PM

God didn't claim shit , no one has ever seen or talked to him/her/it .

in the bible it says "God is Light"

B_B_C · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2013, 03:18:25 PM »

Ask Jon Man of God Harriden.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2013, 03:22:26 PM »

The Bible makes useful compost as the thin pages degrade rather nicely when mixed in with horse manure.

Marty Champions · « **Reply #6 on:** January 30, 2013, 03:28:25 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on January 30, 2013, 03:22:26 PM

The Bible makes useful compost as the thin pages degrade rather nicely when mixed in with horse manure.

what was said in those days was important, important enough to write down and respected by gentleman at the time, the thing is people wanted credit for what was said or who said it in the bible, and they also wanted to hide some knowledge

so the bible is heavily veiled

names are changed, names are changed to hide knowledge

some truth is in there, but youd have to be a language expert to really decipher it

its like when you learn anything new thats interesting-
-the story gets passed down
-the storys changed but much of the truth is there
-the characters names are changed to give credit to those telling the story or to hide identity

B_B_C · « **Reply #7 on:** January 30, 2013, 03:32:47 PM »

Quote from: Johnny Falcon on January 30, 2013, 03:28:25 PM

what was said in those days was important, important enough to write down and respected by gentleman at the time, the thing is people wanted credit for what was said or who said it in the bible, and they also wanted to hide some knowledge
so the bible is heavily veiled
names are changed, names are changed to hide knowledge
some truth is in there, but youd have to be a language expert to really decipher it
its like when you learn anything new thats interesting-
-the story gets passed down
-the storys changed but much of the truth is there
-the characters names are changed to give credit to those telling the story or to hide identity

so its not truth full?

The True Adonis · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2013, 03:52:58 PM »

Johnny, I am going to give you a gift that basically sums everything up and composed rather succinctly in song. Give it a listen. I agree with all of it.

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #9 on:** January 30, 2013, 04:08:11 PM »

Quote from: Johnny Falcon on January 30, 2013, 01:41:57 PM

none other than light

even god claims to not be like man or not a man but he IS LIGHT as even claimed in the bible

the bible says YOU are the LIGHT of the world, and the bible said god is light

the jesus thing couldve been an alien smart guy that came here, we cant conclusively rule out aliens that are very bright and picked up on math 100000's of years ago and are still alive because they know math and know how to stay alive

but back on topic. light is creating the "holographic universe" you cant have a hologram without light either

so can light create matter, and sound is light isnt it? surely

As long as I can keep enough change and dollars to give out next month (Afro American) month and we have light, water and food we will reap great karma from the universe.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2013, 04:10:06 PM »

Johnny,

You be careful out there tonight and watch for Tornadoes. Its blowing around 50 miles per hour right now.

littledumbells · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2013, 04:50:56 PM »

Quote from: Johnny Falcon on January 30, 2013, 03:17:05 PM

in the bible it says "God is Light"

By that logic you can conclude your fleshlight is god

Marty Champions · « **Reply #12 on:** January 30, 2013, 08:52:31 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on January 30, 2013, 04:10:06 PM

Johnny,

You be careful out there tonight and watch for Tornadoes. Its blowing around 50 miles per hour right now.

yeah im not fucking around out there tonite some serious wind gusts

The True Adonis · « **Reply #13 on:** January 30, 2013, 09:24:03 PM »

Quote from: Johnny Falcon on January 30, 2013, 08:52:31 PM

yeah im not fucking around out there tonite some serious wind gusts

Part of one of my wooden fences blew down.

I have to fix it tomorrow with Reinforced T Posts.

daddy8ball · « **Reply #14 on:** January 30, 2013, 09:24:36 PM »

Read up on the latest quantum physics. I think you'll be happily suprised.

Radical Plato · « **Reply #15 on:** January 30, 2013, 09:45:16 PM »

Quote from: Johnny Falcon on January 30, 2013, 01:41:57 PM

Something can come from nothing, the whole "you can't create something from nothing" is a theory with the exception being the universe. Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist. No God Needed. Hope this helps!

daddy8ball · « **Reply #16 on:** January 31, 2013, 03:22:09 AM »

Quote from: E-Kul on January 30, 2013, 09:45:16 PM

Something can come from nothing, the whole "you can't create something from nothing" is a theory with the exception being the universe. Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist. No God Needed. Hope this helps!

HAHAHAHAH!!!

Wiggs · « **Reply #17 on:** January 31, 2013, 03:26:03 AM »

Quote from: E-Kul on January 30, 2013, 09:45:16 PM

Something can come from nothing, the whole "you can't create something from nothing" is a theory with the exception being the universe. Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist. No God Needed. Hope this helps!

You got any proof of this spontaneous creation in action sparky

Red Hook · « **Reply #18 on:** January 31, 2013, 04:19:18 AM »

Quote from: E-Kul on January 30, 2013, 09:45:16 PM

Something can come from nothing, the whole "you can't create something from nothing" is a theory with the exception being the universe. Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist. No God Needed. Hope this helps!

I recommend this book by Mr. Sagan.. your spontaneous creation is most likely when matter and anti-matter meet.

oddly enough TA posted a quote from this book a few weeks ago. I was pleasantly surprised by him.

SF1900 · « **Reply #19 on:** January 31, 2013, 04:22:54 AM »

Quote from: Red Hook on January 31, 2013, 04:19:18 AM

I recommend this book by Mr. Sagan.. your spontaneous creation is most likely when matter and anti-matter meet.

oddly enough TA posted a quote from this book a few weeks ago. I was pleasantly surprised by him.

In before a religious getbigger says, "YEAH, BUT SOMETHING HAD TO CREATE THAT MATTER! IT WAS GOD"

Archer77 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 31, 2013, 04:46:26 AM »

Quote from: SF1900 on January 31, 2013, 04:22:54 AM

In before a religious getbigger says, "YEAH, BUT SOMETHING HAD TO CREATE THAT MATTER! IT WAS GOD"

A rational person will follow up with the question, "who created god" The answer to which is always, "god always existed." Sorry, that is not a sufficient answer.

SF1900 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 31, 2013, 04:51:05 AM »

Quote from: Archer77 on January 31, 2013, 04:46:26 AM

A rational person will follow up with the question, "who created god" The answer to which is always, "god always existed." Sorry, that is not a sufficient answer.

ahhh, yes, I love that "cop out" answer. god was always here! With an answer like that, its impossible to debate such nonsense.

Tito24 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 31, 2013, 05:03:02 AM »

Jadeveon Clowney · « **Reply #23 on:** January 31, 2013, 05:04:46 AM »

Quote from: Johnny Falcon on January 30, 2013, 01:41:57 PM

none other than light

even god claims to not be like man or not a man but he IS LIGHT as even claimed in the bible

the bible says YOU are the LIGHT of the world, and the bible said god is light

the jesus thing couldve been an alien smart guy that came here, we cant conclusively rule out aliens that are very bright and picked up on math 100000's of years ago and are still alive because they know math and know how to stay alive

but back on topic. light is creating the "holographic universe" you cant have a hologram without light either

so can light create matter, and sound is light isnt it? surely

yep sound is light.

BigRo · « **Reply #24 on:** January 31, 2013, 05:17:35 AM »

Quote from: E-Kul on January 30, 2013, 09:45:16 PM

Something can come from nothing, the whole "you can't create something from nothing" is a theory with the exception being the universe. Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist. No God Needed. Hope this helps!

have you ever tried meditation E-Kul? Nothing airy fairy about calming your body and mind to a point of profound stillness, when one gets good at it they experience that nothinginess is the most full thing there is, this is not imagination but a condition of being beyond the mind identical with the source of all life.