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« Reply #50 on: December 12, 2005, 12:51:35 PM »

Contact Andreas Cahling here:



http://stores.ebay.com/Andreas-Cahling-Bodybuilding-Store_W0QQsspagenameZL2QQtZkm

Here is a recent pic of AC-looking very good for his age-better than most:


http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=andreas_cahling
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« Reply #51 on: December 12, 2005, 12:57:14 PM »

Thanks, Rules!

Here's a shot of Dennis _________ and Larry ____________ who have been posting subjects on a number of occasions here.

Left the blanks so that you "newbies" can make a guess.

If I recall right, I took this shot in the mid 60's at the Embassy Hotel Theatre during one of the Cal contests. This was probably the same night that John COrvello beat Bill  ___?____ for the overall Cal title.

Those were the glory days of this crazy sport. Nothing big but everything great!


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« Reply #52 on: December 12, 2005, 02:20:22 PM »

The contact sheet is Ernie Santiago.  Billy Smith started Nutrtionanylisis(?) with Neal Spruce back in the early 90's.  Something happened and they split apart.  Nutritionanyalisis(?) was then changed to APEX.  Which has made Neal many and many more millions of dollar.  Last time I knew where Billy was he was operating his own nutrition program out of Gold's Venice where he had an office.  He was a huge guy.
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« Reply #53 on: December 12, 2005, 02:47:45 PM »

The contact sheet is Ernie Santiago.  Billy Smith started Nutrtionanylisis(?) with Neal Spruce back in the early 90's.  Something happened and they split apart.  Nutritionanyalisis(?) was then changed to APEX.  Which has made Neal many and many more millions of dollar.  Last time I knew where Billy was he was operating his own nutrition program out of Gold's Venice where he had an office.  He was a huge guy.

I used to work out with Neal Spruce's old roommate in 1983- a former pro football player (USFL) named  Kenny McGinnity. Neal and Kenny were living in San Jose and training at the California Gym-which was the major hardcore gym down there- and Neal was waiting tables at night so he could train during the day. Neal also owned his own home which is one reason he would not move down to Venice-which Neal eventually did do.

Neal hosted a Saturday afternoon "muscle movie" which came on once a week for a very small, very minor San Jose TV station.  Neal was very close to going pro in the early 80's........finishing in the top 5 at the USA and Nationals numerous times.......Last time I saw neal was in the Cal in 1989 or 1990-he did not place.
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« Reply #54 on: December 12, 2005, 03:47:24 PM »

As usual.....

good pictures & history Stunt
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« Reply #55 on: December 12, 2005, 05:39:16 PM »

The guy is easy. Sad to say he passed away a couple of years back, but who is the lady?


Thats Patty M.
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« Reply #56 on: December 12, 2005, 05:50:59 PM »

     Stuntmovie, one more guess.  The two bodybuilders with Bill Grant look like Marty and Pete Vranicar.  Almost didn't recognize Marty V. without the mustache. 

Don't know who they are but they're not the Vranicar brothers .
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« Reply #57 on: December 12, 2005, 05:53:13 PM »

That's Pat Ruelle with the blond hair , he was a hippy , wore his long hair pulled back in a pony tail .
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« Reply #58 on: December 12, 2005, 06:00:50 PM »

Here's Dave from a few years ago ...



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« Reply #59 on: December 12, 2005, 09:51:54 PM »

Thats Patty M.

And who the hell was Patty M?............... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #60 on: December 12, 2005, 11:15:40 PM »

           Hey Stuntmovie, Crownshep said this guy looked like Rick Rude the wrestler, but you never said if he was right or not. Is it Rude or is it Denny Gable?


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« Reply #61 on: December 13, 2005, 12:05:12 AM »

FLex. that is Larry Gordon. Glowboy ID'd him correctly earlier.

I'm sorry but I don't recognize Rick Rude in any of the photos I took.

Here's another Larry Gordon shot taken at the "Mr America Parade" when Ken Sprague and Gold's Gym promoted it in Santa Monica. That was one heck of an unreal weekend.



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« Reply #62 on: December 13, 2005, 12:14:04 AM »

The Mr America Parade....... I think this was the same weekend when Mae West handed out the overall winner's trophy to Dave Johns at the Santa Monica Civic.

Her eyesight was not too good so Burt Goodrich escorted her onstage. She was just a little old lady while waiting backstage but when she walked out front of that curtain she definitely was Mae West. An amazing and immediate transformation.

She invented that persona/character completely.

The only other person I've seen pull that kind of transformation off completely was Paul Rubens/Pee Wee Herman. Another show business genius.


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« Reply #63 on: December 13, 2005, 12:22:03 AM »

I'm surprised that no one has identified Rory Leidelmeyer  yet.

Here's another Mr America Parade shot.

I think that Ken Sprague was the only contest promoter who actually used a real live symphony orchestra for the contestants' music. It was a high school symphony orchestra but I do recall them being pretty darn good.

He even had a special SM newspaper (special edition) published for the event and every judge in attendance got paid in accordance with the number of miles they traveled to show up at the contest.



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« Reply #64 on: December 13, 2005, 12:29:40 AM »

Ken Sprague ..... Bodybuilding Contest Promoter of the Century.


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« Reply #65 on: December 13, 2005, 12:39:20 AM »

Name 'em all .......



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« Reply #66 on: December 13, 2005, 12:51:38 AM »

Another series of pictures I shot so long ago.  I think Bill's girlfriend was named Kathy but not real sure about that nowadays. (SHe is in the third picture leaning on the oly bar)


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« Reply #67 on: December 13, 2005, 12:56:03 AM »

Comparison shots glued together as it was done in the old days,

Name 'em.


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« Reply #68 on: December 13, 2005, 01:03:05 AM »

Good memories here!


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« Reply #69 on: December 13, 2005, 01:11:22 AM »

Find Ernie........ and give his last name...... and then ask me about his precontest dieting.


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« Reply #70 on: December 13, 2005, 08:05:47 AM »

And who the hell was Patty M?............... Roll Eyes

Come on, you must know who Patty M was, your the OLD SCHOOL GURU
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« Reply #71 on: December 13, 2005, 08:16:23 AM »

Find Ernie........ and give his last name...... and then ask me about his precontest dieting.


Ernie Santiago
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« Reply #72 on: December 13, 2005, 09:27:45 AM »

Yes, Bix, way before he started competing nationally. His precontest diet consisted just about totally of raw fish which is pretty abundant in Hawaii.
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« Reply #73 on: December 13, 2005, 11:43:20 AM »

Pete looked good.  Heard Ernie may make a comeback and compete in the Masters.  Man that parade always gets me.  Stunt remember when I had all the bodybuilders and powerlifters holding the huge parade float I sponsored with Purely Hawaiian in the Jeep/Aloha Bowl Parade Waikiki  Alan was in really good shape for that.  EVeryone liked the big guys holding the float.
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« Reply #74 on: December 13, 2005, 04:45:05 PM »

I sure do remember that, Only.
 
Be honest here ........ Would you agree when me when I say that BODYBUILDING and the SPORT of Bodybuilding and the whole damn shebang including the gyms - was something completely and totally different and lots more fun and reputable back in the 70's?
 
It kind of all made a change for the WORSE when the gyms got bought out by BIG BUSINESS and when the idea of PERSONAL TRAINERS came into existance. I do recall those first few years when you had to attend a "school" to get "licensed" to become a trainer so you could train your friends in the gym.
 
That "trainer" was one of the most obnoxious SOB's I've ever met and she flunked all the competitive bodybuilders who took her course.  And she kept on telling me all sorts of bullshit about how she could train a Bodybuilding Champion in half the time that I could.
 
I think she had a track background and ................ ahhh, forget it.
 
Back in the old days, eveyone in the gym helped eveyone else for free and never had their paws out for $60 plus an hour. In my humble opinion, the PT business is one of the biggest scams since the days of Snake Oil Salesmen, and we still got a lot of them around too.
 
OK, back to some photos. Here's a relatively new one. Easy to ID.



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