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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2013, 03:44:13 PM »
quick fact - a gun in the home is 43 times more likely to be involved in the death of a member of the household, rather than used in self defense :)

More fun stats on the health risks of owning a gun for you guys to quibble over:

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9715182

http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2012/12/16/searching-for-hard-data-on-guns-and-violence/
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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2013, 03:47:00 PM »
Guys.. The cats out of the bag,so to speak.. Gun sales are through the roof right now. . People who never owned guys are now buying them up... Obama essentially flooded the market with his silly rhetoric .. He's actually made it worse... So go ahead and try to ban this or that.. It's all show.. What he has done inadvertently is escalate what he was trying to stop.. This guy is all about legacy at the moment.. Get through what looks good.. But you can all scream, piss , bitch and moan but its too late... Pass all the laws ya want if it helps ya sleep better.. But in the end it won't stop anything..nor slow it down,..

Stop the bleeding hearts out there from over playing the " civil rights" aspect of mental illness and worry about protecting those they could potentially hurt.. This is the central component of what we have seen lately...

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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2013, 03:47:36 PM »
 :)
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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2013, 04:06:39 PM »
No surprise to see Mindspin wants guns taken away,he prefers his men helpless when he "takes their back" :-X
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2013, 04:07:30 PM »
Mindspin, I have already debunked and shown your posts for the ignorant and emotional talking points they are.

You admit that banning guns wont take them out of the hands of criminals but will take them out of the hands of law abiding citizens but you still feel a gun ban is a good thing.

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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2013, 04:12:20 PM »

There are some in this country who would very much like that.

Very true.

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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2013, 04:18:26 PM »
Really?  What are you and your Bushmaster rifle going to do against drones and apache helicopters?
3rd world, ass backwards, sheep fucking arabs seem to be able to hold their own...

you think millions and millions of armed citizens that blend in with the population fighting a guerilla war would just fold?

you should learn a little history and stop being such an emotional retard.

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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2013, 04:30:54 PM »
:)

That cartoon isnt accurate why? North Vietnamese did a real good job at stifling the American war machine with nothing more than Ak47s and motor rounds .also see Iraq and Afghanistan


.Gov know confiscation would lead to another civil war and it would be a disaster politically as well facing 100 million plus armed Americans

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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2013, 04:40:09 PM »
No surprise to see Mindspin wants guns taken away,he prefers his men helpless when he "takes their back" :-X

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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2013, 04:45:01 PM »
That cartoon isnt accurate why? North Vietnamese did a real good job at stifling the American war machine with nothing more than Ak47s and motor rounds .also see Iraq and Afghanistan


.Gov know confiscation would lead to another civil war and it would be a disaster politically as well facing 100 million plus armed Americans


Also, it is doubtful that the U.S. military will nuke the U.S. The tactics they use are more likely to be resistible with civilian force.

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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2013, 04:48:45 PM »

Also, it is doubtful that the U.S. military will nuke the U.S. The tactics they use are more likely to be resistible with civilian force.
QFT.
Not to mention that it's very probable that the military would split. Remember, those people operating those drones and tanks are citizens themselves, and so are their families.

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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2013, 04:49:41 PM »
That cartoon isnt accurate why? North Vietnamese did a real good job at stifling the American war machine with nothing more than Ak47s and motor rounds .also see Iraq and Afghanistan


.Gov know confiscation would lead to another civil war and it would be a disaster politically as well facing 100 million plus armed Americans

Oh brother ::)  You're going to compare yourself to the Afghanis and Vietnamese?  Not only was the terrain completely different (jungle and mountainous caves), but these people were fighting for their lives and being supported by other governments.  

If it really ever came down to it, most of these Ted Nugent wannabes, would fold in 2 secs if a team of navy seals came busting through their door.  And for the rest of the nut jobs that actually tried to put up any kind of resistance, just google branch davidians to see how that would end :)  
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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2013, 04:50:27 PM »

Also, it is doubtful that the U.S. military will nuke the U.S. The tactics they use are more likely to be resistible with civilian force.

The tactics they use are the ones that work 
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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2013, 04:51:10 PM »
Oh brother ::)  You're going to compare yourself to the Afghanis and Vietnamese?  Not only was the terrain completely different (jungle and mountainous caves), but these people were fighting for their lives and being supported by other governments.  

If it really ever came down to it, most of these Ted Nugent wannabes, would fold in 2 secs if a team of navy seals came busting through their door.  And for the rest of the nut jobs that actually tried to put up any kind of resistance, just google branch davidians to see how that would end :)  
Navy SEALs? Really? Really dude? If it came down to what you're talking about, it would be a full scale civil war. And I hate to say it, but there aren't nearly enough SEALs to go around in that situation.

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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2013, 04:57:02 PM »
Oh brother ::)  You're going to compare yourself to the Afghanis and Vietnamese?  Not only was the terrain completely different (jungle and mountainous caves), but these people were fighting for their lives and being supported by other governments. 

If it really ever came down to it, most of these Ted Nugent wannabes, would fold in 2 secs if a team of navy seals came busting through their door.  And for the rest of the nut jobs that actually tried to put up any kind of resistance, just google branch davidians to see how that would end :)   
spoken like a true idiot with no education in history.

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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2013, 04:58:54 PM »
spoken like a true idiot with no education in history.

Our original Revolutionaries were just a bunch of farmers and peasants too.

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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2013, 05:02:27 PM »
Navy SEALs? Really? Really dude? If it came down to what you're talking about, it would be a full scale civil war. And I hate to say it, but there aren't nearly enough SEALs to go around in that situation.

OMG...really?  Do you remember what happened in the last civil war?  This time, our side is much more well armed.  You and the teabaggers would be fucked.
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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2013, 05:03:46 PM »
spoken like a true idiot with no education in history.

Now you're going to enlighten me on History.  I'm sure your version is quite entertaining.
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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2013, 05:04:32 PM »
QFT.
Not to mention that it's very probable that the military would split. Remember, those people operating those drones and tanks are citizens themselves, and so are their families.


Precisely.
It won't be as simple as the military vs. everyone else. I would expect everybody from bus drivers on up to government officials to be forming coalitions. It would be a nation divided.

TA would get to dust off his grays and march for real with his local, modern-day civil war battalion - if it's even a North/South thing.

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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2013, 05:05:23 PM »
OMG...really?  Do you remember what happened in the last civil war?  This time, our side is much more well armed.  You and the teabaggers would be fucked.
I'm not a teabagger, and I'm pretty sure that both sides would be well armed. You have this notion in your head that it's going to be the entire U.S. military united against a few crazed nuts armed with AR-15's, which simply wouldn't be the case.

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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2013, 05:06:48 PM »

Precisely.
It won't be as simple as the military vs. everyone else. I would expect everybody from bus drivers on up to government officials to be forming coalitions. It would be a nation divided.

TA would get to dust off his grays and march for real with his local, modern-day civil war battalion - if it's even a North/South thing.
Yeah, it wouldn't be a north south thing. The whole country would be at odds with each other, and as soon as civilians started taking casualties, you can bet that there wouldn't be a "US Military" anymore.

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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #46 on: February 06, 2013, 05:13:16 PM »
Now you're going to enlighten me on History.  I'm sure your version is quite entertaining.
history is history moron and its full of outnumbered and out gunned forces kicking the shit out of govts, armies and just general shit heads...


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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #47 on: February 06, 2013, 05:13:27 PM »
You guys need to seriously study your history.  Keep quibbling about this.  In the meantime, stricter gun laws will be passed :-)
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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2013, 05:14:34 PM »
history is history moron and its full of outnumbered and out gunned forces kicking the shit out of govts, armies and just general shit heads...



You really seem to be getting very emotional over this.  You probably feel like shooting something don't you...
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Re: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings
« Reply #49 on: February 06, 2013, 05:15:21 PM »
You guys need to seriously study your history.  Keep quibbling about this.  In the meantime, stricter gun laws will be passed :-)
sure sure girlie now run along and watch your lifetime movies, the time for emotional outbreaks and crying is done.