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« on: February 12, 2013, 09:47:35 PM »

And its implications for the nature of reality  Huh
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2013, 09:48:54 PM »

This is getbig.

I r dunt quantum mechanicals.
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2013, 09:50:55 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2013, 09:53:27 PM »

I don't know what the implications are. Anyway, I don't think intuition has much role to play as far as theoretical inquiry is concerned, meaning what we "think" of quantum mechanics isn't particularly relevant. As weird as it gets, the objective criteria (predictive success, etc.) are what matter.

I do think it is sad that it gets hijacked and misused by fagets like Deepak Chopra, though.
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2013, 09:56:00 PM »

I don't know what the implications are. Anyway, I don't think intuition has much role to play as far as theoretical inquiry is concerned, meaning what we "think" of quantum mechanics isn't particularly relevant. As weird as it gets, the objective criteria (predictive success, etc.) are what matter.

I do think it is sad that it gets hijacked and misused by fagets like Deepak Chopra, though.

Deepak Chopra is pretty ridiculous.  Undecided
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2013, 09:59:37 PM »

Does solid state electronics work?...
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2013, 09:59:53 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2013, 11:24:37 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2013, 11:33:11 PM »

Does quantum mechanics have anything to do with the tv show Quantum Leap?
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2013, 11:35:39 PM »

Does quantum mechanics have anything to do with the tv show Quantum Leap?

no.
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2013, 11:37:07 PM »

Deepak Chopra is pretty ridiculous.  Undecided

one of the biggest frauds ever...but a slick one....he's got bank!
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2013, 12:58:00 AM »

HAIDER! YES!

I do believe in QM and have discussed the subject with two professors who teach the subject in major universities.

An I'll do my best to answer any QM question which may be 'unbelievable' within your own mind if you can be specific.

I'm not as intelligent nor as well versed as some of my fellow GetBiggers but I do read a lot in an attempt to learn about 'things' that seem impossible to understand such 'things' as string theory, random number generators, and the computation of the casino or gambling  'odds' in favor of the bettor or the house, etc., etc., etc.

So I've read numerous books on the subject of Quantum Mechanics.......

But I've only unerstood one of them.(Actually .... Only parts of one of them!! But enough to discuss the subject somewhat intelligently.)

QM is a very complicated subject that is full of mysteries and big surprises which some smart individuals say, "But that's impossible!"

So the usual next step is to say, "I don't believe it!"

Those who fail to 'believe it' simply ignore it while those who investigate it further discover even bigger surprises that seem to be even more impossible.

If interested I suggest you attempt to read DANCING WU LI MASTERS and be initially surprised by the DUAL NATURE OF LIGHT which starts around page 65.

But don't stop there because you will be amazed if you are capable of reading through the very end.

You can download a PDF copy of DANCING WU LI MASTERS free of charge if you search for it bt adding "PDF" after the book's title.
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2013, 02:59:57 AM »

Einstein didnt like QM and he had some strong reasons why, now it doesn't mean he knew everything as we well know he himself didnt see the real threat of E=mc2 and it was max planck who showed him that in fact you can generate more energy then you put in and hence he wrote the letter to FDR that started the man. project.

My point is, QM gets carried away all the time with theories that are way out there, but its way out there theories that help us make major progress, even if 90% fall away, remember that until 1922 or so most would argue against the theory of relativity.

Lets remember that until 1869 we knew almost nothing about the structure of atoms and even after that major changes, additions and corrections where made re: the atomic mass of many particles, heck, we didn't even know about neutrons, protons and electrons till 1897-1932 (depending what story you believe).

So to sit here in confidence and to say that whatever we know today is all we will ever know, is silly. There is no doubt that same way we laugh at what people thought they knew 150 years ago, we will be laughed at in 150 years from now.

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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2013, 03:04:18 AM »

Einstein didnt like QM and he had some strong reasons why, now it doesn't mean he knew everything as we well know he himself didnt see the real threat of E=mc2 and it was max planck who showed him that in fact you can generate more energy then you put in and hence he wrote the letter to FDR that started the man. project.

My point is, QM gets carried away all the time with theories that are way out there, but its way out there theories that help us make major progress, even if 90% fall away, remember that until 1922 or so most would argue against the theory of relativity.

Lets remember that until 1869 we knew almost nothing about the structure of atoms and even after that major changes, additions and corrections where made re: the atomic mass of many particles, heck, we didn't even know about neutrons, protons and electrons till 1897-1932 (depending what story you believe).

So to sit here in confidence and to say that whatever we know today is all we will ever know, is silly. There is no doubt that same way we laugh at what people thought they knew 150 years ago, we will be laughed at in 150 years from now.



Isn't that actually one of the implications of Planck's theories on an epistemological level at least?
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2013, 03:07:46 AM »

I don't know what the implications are. Anyway, I don't think intuition has much role to play as far as theoretical inquiry is concerned, meaning what we "think" of quantum mechanics isn't particularly relevant. As weird as it gets, the objective criteria (predictive success, etc.) are what matter.

I do think it is sad that it gets hijacked and misused by fagets like Deepak Chopra, though.

what's with greek guys and funny spellings of "homo"?

i've noticed this trend, any insights?

edit - perhaps i've answered my own question...
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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2013, 03:31:30 AM »

Does solid state electronics work?...

solid state? Huh


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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2013, 04:02:08 AM »

Isn't that actually one of the implications of Planck's theories on an epistemological level at least?
indeed!
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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2013, 06:40:44 AM »

what's with greek guys and funny spellings of "homo"?

i've noticed this trend, any insights?

edit - perhaps i've answered my own question...

Hahah. I'm not aware of any specific Greek connection.
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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2013, 07:26:25 AM »

And its implications for the nature of reality  Huh

if you dont know study walter russell friend of nikoli tesla smartest men ever

Walter Russell , good friend of nikoli tesla, has totally different science than what is accepted, nikoli advised him to hide this knowledge.

Russell was the first to manipulate weather , read this and you can try it yourself

this is the wave feild


this is the electric current, still magnetic white light is at the fulcrum/center and it is an infinitly small sphere of neutral charge the red and blue denote positive and negative charges

at each plane the current intersects is an inert gas (look it up if you dont know). it will help you understand the wave feild that is sitting right next to you and is through all things including you

the whole periodic table is a pressurized wave feild of white light the more or less pressure the different the element becomes , each octave or fulcrum is seen here in the wave remember the fulcrum/center i explained earlyer my fiends

walter russell can show you the full periodic table wich shows the progression of the still magnetic white light in different pressure feilds

if someone could post a zoomed in version it would be of great help and falcon respect to do so



not only is this fascinating its mind blowing when you understand it here check out this experiment, we could do it ourselfs imagine the possibilities. i suggest you read the full 70 pages first to understand it

but here is a recount of the walter russell experiment




 
Creating Technology
Warning:
Some of the things described here are quite dangerous and potentially lethal.Please use
extreme
caution, and consider things carefully before attempting anyof this.In the book
 Atomic Suicide?
there are some experiments given to simulate the patterns of
TheOctave Wave
so that one may see them personally. They involve running electricity throughconically wound coils pointed towards one another. By using compasses, one can see the directionof electrical flow. And by placing iron filings between them, it makes the shape of the
 DoublyCharged Sphere
. Changing the distance between coils makes the sphere prolate and oblate.There are some storiesof others whom have attempted to carry out similar experiments, which I quote here:A couple of years later, after we both spoke at a conference in Denver and on the plane back to Dallas, I told Peter (Kelly) about an interesting experiment done byWalter Russell and recounted in his excellent book 'Atomic Suicide'.
Two coilswere wound on cones.The apices of these conical coils were pointed towards each other and powerwas applied so that bucking fields were created by the collision of oppositemagnetic fields. Very fine iron filings were dropped into the gap between thecoils and a levitating sphere was produced.When the coils were slowly pulled apart, an oval followed by a spheresurrounded by a disk appeared.
When Peter arrived home, he tried thisexperiment and reported that when power was turned on, nearly eveyone in the building complained of feeling
nauseous or queasy
. He explained that anexperiment was going on so that everyone would understand what was happening.After about an hour, the very clear and cloudless sky began to suddenly boil up and
a major thunderstorm ensued

. Power was removed from the coils and the stormdissipated as fast as it had arisen??? Weird stuff no doubt and subject to duplication by others if we all share our information...... JerryA conventional science description of why such effects occured might be something along theselines:The "bucking magnetic fields" forms a lot of ions that creates a potential difference between the area of the experiment and the sky, which causes a thunderstorm.(Something similar is said to have been used to control the weather ). Thisionization probably also produces a lot of ozone that can make people feel sick.And depending upon how its powered (e.g.: high frequency AC), it might evenmake a significant amount of microwaves.However, the most intriguing bit is how the storm disappeared immediately when the coils weredeactivated. I conjecture that perhaps all the ions were connected to their parent sphere (the onecreated by the iron filings), and were dissipated instantly when it ceased to exist with the removal of  power.
 
Assuming that the building is quite large, the fact that it made everyone in it feel nauseated(including those whom were probably not even near it) is very important as well. It is possible their radiations might also create fields that may not be healthy (e.g.: depending upon the positioning of the coils as they mimick different elements)





to understand in full go here http://www.scribd.com/doc/76359437/Walter-and-Lao-Russell


lastly

Walter Russell

Russell=llessur

Walter=R ET LAW

lesser ARE Extra terrestrial law

so even this isnt the apex of all knowing there is more to come but this is still the "LAW"
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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2013, 08:13:57 AM »

Why would it be necessary to "believe" a demonstratable event?
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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2013, 08:16:37 AM »

The sun shines because of tunneling.  HTH.
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2013, 08:18:09 AM »

Why would it be necessary to "believe" a demonstratable event?

The fact that quantum mechanics are at work when I fart never ceases to amaze me though.
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2013, 05:20:36 PM »

 Grin

Ill be impressed when I can non-localize one.
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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2013, 11:55:08 PM »

Yes.  Because of Quantum mechanics we have finally discovered the conditions at the time of the Big bang and that a Creator was not needed to create the Universe.  This is a huge breakthrough!


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« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2013, 02:50:42 PM »

HAIDER! YES!

I do believe in QM and have discussed the subject with two professors who teach the subject in major universities.

An I'll do my best to answer any QM question which may be 'unbelievable' within your own mind if you can be specific.

I'm not as intelligent nor as well versed as some of my fellow GetBiggers but I do read a lot in an attempt to learn about 'things' that seem impossible to understand such 'things' as string theory, random number generators, and the computation of the casino or gambling  'odds' in favor of the bettor or the house, etc., etc., etc.

So I've read numerous books on the subject of Quantum Mechanics.......

But I've only unerstood one of them.(Actually .... Only parts of one of them!! But enough to discuss the subject somewhat intelligently.)

QM is a very complicated subject that is full of mysteries and big surprises which some smart individuals say, "But that's impossible!"

So the usual next step is to say, "I don't believe it!"

Those who fail to 'believe it' simply ignore it while those who investigate it further discover even bigger surprises that seem to be even more impossible.

If interested I suggest you attempt to read DANCING WU LI MASTERS and be initially surprised by the DUAL NATURE OF LIGHT which starts around page 65.

But don't stop there because you will be amazed if you are capable of reading through the very end.

You can download a PDF copy of DANCING WU LI MASTERS free of charge if you search for it bt adding "PDF" after the book's title.


A very detailed response with amazing depth. Thanks!
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