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Re: Whatta you do when facing real depression.
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2013, 04:22:29 PM »
What things are missing in your life RATARD

What dont you like in life that maybe universal to everyone or is a unqiue problem for you?

we all get the blues you aint the only one alot of us keep our feelings in and dont post when we feel like a bitch because other posters will pounce on you and own you

get a house somewhere around some nature man, i hated living in an apartment because i couldnt scream and make loud noises or piss outside because people were outside or blacks sitting on my fuckin porch
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Re: Whatta you do when facing real depression.
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2013, 04:23:21 PM »
No health insurance, and the wastelists are years long.
Shits way too dam depressing.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/forum3.html


Anyhow I'm avoiding docs, just wondering what you folk have done when shit gets bad.

Don't you have mental health insurance coverage in Canada?
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Re: Whatta you do when facing real depression.
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2013, 04:23:45 PM »
work. work. work.
when one has family to feed there's no time to get depressed.

when you are given nothing, you must push through.... whether it rained or shined - rarely shined:





good point

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Re: Whatta you do when facing real depression.
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2013, 04:24:18 PM »
go see a counselor, a therapist, a psychiatrist, a psychologist.. somebody.  asking for help on getbig is rarely going to result in good advice. and when it does, theres going to be a  whole lot of other bullshit in the thread thats just going to make you even more depressed.

i dont recommend drugs. although i might on a different day. right now i think the only way is all naturale..

william james used pure will power to overcome severe depression. if im not mistaken, i believe he made the turn around when he decided to believe in free will. "my first act of free will was choosing to believe in it".  :)
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Re: Whatta you do when facing real depression.
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2013, 04:24:23 PM »
Maybe build a house or adopt an African child.

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Re: Whatta you do when facing real depression.
« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2013, 04:26:10 PM »
Maybe build a house or adopt an African child.

yeah good to be outside or take a shovel out in the woods look for artifacts that might be there from 1000 years ago or 200,-000 years ago its possible
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Re: Whatta you do when facing real depression.
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2013, 04:27:36 PM »
stillness=madness

thats whyy i hate meditating and thinks its useless id rather be out in the woods with a shovel makin my way through the breyer patches and leaves looking for a sign from some other ancient culture
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Re: Whatta you do when facing real depression.
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2013, 04:32:58 PM »
man this guitar is cool as fuck cost about 230 with the amp and some fingernail pics. it can tune to different genre's on the amp you can make it sound like alot of different shit, i think RATARD should get one and join the band with him music, hoes, and exercise is all that is fun in life but we still gotta work to and obtain some knowledges! these things keep us just positive enough big GROIN KKK

yes the falcon teachings are always within grasp but most can't reach for them.



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Re: Whatta you do when facing real depression.
« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2013, 04:34:29 PM »
yes the falcon teachings are always within grasp but most can't reach for them.

Very few can reach that level of enlightenment.

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Re: Whatta you do when facing real depression.
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2013, 04:36:15 PM »
What things are missing in your life RATARD

What dont you like in life that maybe universal to everyone or is a unqiue problem for you?

we all get the blues you aint the only one alot of us keep our feelings in and dont post when we feel like a bitch because other posters will pounce on you and own you

get a house somewhere around some nature man, i hated living in an apartment because i couldnt scream and make loud noises or piss outside because people were outside or blacks sitting on my fuckin porch
good answer thanks.

I'm talking to a buddy there now and I think I might have to go back to school. Dropping out for me was pretty dam bad.

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Re: Whatta you do when facing real depression.
« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2013, 04:38:30 PM »
No health insurance, and the wastelists are years long.
Shits way too dam depressing.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/forum3.html


Anyhow I'm avoiding docs, just wondering what you folk have done when shit gets bad.
Depression is a tough subject, and many a strong person has not been able to overcome it and have topped themselves.  For starters you could try learning more about it, their is a lot of information out there on the subject and what it is, how it occurs and what to do about it.  You could try seeing it like any other problem that can be resolved with the RIGHT information.  The way I see it, their is no guarantee of happiness, and the best an individual can do is cultivate an environment that encourages happiness to come and stay.  Not unlike a garden, you till the land, fertilise the soil, prepare the rows, plant the seeds, water them regularly etc etc,  What I am getting at is that even if you do all the right things for your seeds to grow, their are other variables that may produce a shitty crop, like poor weather conditions, lack of water or poor quality, erosion etc etc..  (even though that sounds depressing, it beats the alternative of not planting a crop and starving to death, you have to at least do what is required to end up with a harvest)

So create an environment for happiness to enter, work at developing friendships, working a job or contributing to society in some way, do something creative, write, draw, sing, play an instrument etc etc, Eat wholesome foods, make sure you exercise, move, move, move, but even if all that fails, don't give up, Life is bizarre, you never know what is around the corner, Life isn't all about being happy, their is something deeper at play, something mysterious, just learn as much as you can about the world around you and yourself, never give up learning about the things you are passionate about, and don't let others get your spirit down because they are in opposition to you.  

And remember, when we are severely depressed, we are not actually objectively perceiving reality, our thoughts will be skewed by this negative cloud, our mind will tell us things that aren't true, our minds betray us in this state, and that's why you may need to speak to someone who isn't in such a state to give you objectivity and a way to combat this negative mind-state.  What you should be aiming for in cognitive function is a balance between pessimism and optimism, neither state in it's extreme is helpful.  Our minds, like guitar strings, need to be neither to loose or too tight.
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Re: Whatta you do when facing real depression.
« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2013, 04:50:46 PM »
Depression is a tough subject, and many a strong person has not been able to overcome it and have topped themselves.  For starters you could try learning more about it, their is a lot of information out there on the subject and what it is, how it occurs and what to do about it.  You could try seeing it like any other problem that can be resolved with the RIGHT information.  The way I see it, their is no guarantee of happiness, and the best an individual can do is cultivate an environment that encourages happiness to come and stay.  Not unlike a garden, you till the land, fertilise the soil, prepare the rows, plant the seeds, water them regularly etc etc,  What I am getting at is that even if you do all the right things for your seeds to grow, their are other variables that may produce a shitty crop, like poor weather conditions, lack of water or poor quality, erosion etc etc..  (even though that sounds depressing, it beats the alternative of not planting a crop and starving to death, you have to at least do what is required to end up with a harvest)

So create an environment for happiness to enter, work at developing friendships, working a job or contributing to society in some way, do something creative, write, draw, sing, play an instrument etc etc, Eat wholesome foods, make sure you exercise, move, move, move, but even if all that fails, don't give up, Life is bizarre, you never know what is around the corner, Life isn't all about being happy, their is something deeper at play, something mysterious, just learn as much as you can about the world around you and yourself, never give up learning about the things you are passionate about, and don't let others get your spirit down because they are in opposition to you.  

And remember, when we are severely depressed, we are not actually objectively perceiving reality, our thoughts will be skewed by this negative cloud, our mind will tell us things that aren't true, our minds betray us in this state, and that's why you may need to speak to someone who isn't in such a state to give you objectivity and a way to combat this negative mind-state.  What you should be aiming for in cognitive function is a balance between pessimism and optimism, neither state in it's extreme is helpful.  Our minds, like guitar strings, need to be neither to loose or too tight.
thats a good peice of advice in bold
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Re: Whatta you do when facing real depression.
« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2013, 04:57:13 PM »
Very few can reach that level of enlightenment.

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Re: Whatta you do when facing real depression.
« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2013, 05:06:14 PM »
stillness=madness


I disagree. Historically, meditation and stillness has been used by many great thinkers. Personally, my life is much better since I started meditating.

It allows for the body/mind to hear the subtle vibrations of the universe.

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Re: Whatta you do when facing real depression.
« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2013, 05:15:17 PM »
I disagree. Historically, meditation and stillness has been used by many great thinkers. Personally, my life is much better since I started meditating.

It allows for the body/mind to hear the subtle vibrations of the universe.
Why'd you start meditating.

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Re: Whatta you do when facing real depression.
« Reply #40 on: February 17, 2013, 05:16:21 PM »
I disagree. Historically, meditation and stillness has been used by many great thinkers. Personally, my life is much better since I started meditating.

It allows for the body/mind to hear the subtle vibrations of the universe.
meditation is spiritual bunk that is a waste of time and energy and may even be harmful, you are  better of  going for a walk.  If meditation helped people, the majority of people who practised it wouldn't be arseholes.
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« Reply #41 on: February 17, 2013, 05:17:51 PM »
we all have had our minds open up but some of us quit exploring it and talked about it in our minds. perhaps the non posters are exploring it in ways weve never imagined far superiorly ways then i could fathom to talk about.never think you are the best never think you are the worst believe in the infinite creative ability that is this right here to comfort the for eternity

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Re: Whatta you do when facing real depression.
« Reply #42 on: February 17, 2013, 05:19:12 PM »
meditation is spiritual bunk that is a waste of time and energy, you are  better of  going for a walk.  If meditation helped people, the majority of people who practised it wouldn't be arseholes.
The fuck are you talking about, meditation, isn't anything spirtual, it's a physical process.

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Re: Whatta you do when facing real depression.
« Reply #43 on: February 17, 2013, 05:22:03 PM »
meditation is spiritual bunk that is a waste of time and energy and may even be harmful, you are  better of  going for a walk.  If meditation helped people, the majority of people who practised it wouldn't be arseholes.

Jesus, gahndi, Krishna ect. These were brilliant thinkers. Granted the people who bastardized their teachings are idiots.

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« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2013, 05:24:40 PM »
The fuck are you talking about, meditation, isn't anything spirtual, it's a physical process.
Meditation originated from eastern Religions and was designed to apparently "cleanse" the mind of impurities and disturbances so as to attain so-called enlightenment--a concept as crazy as God.  It was never meant to be a relaxation tool to de-stress.  If you are meditating, that could be part of the problem, the last thing a disturbed mind needs is to be alone with itself.  Going for a walk is a physical process.  Sitting still and focusing your awareness on yourself is not.  Hope this helps.
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« Reply #45 on: February 17, 2013, 05:28:51 PM »
Many Buddhist use a type of walking meditation. Meditation is more than sitting in the lotus position and emptying your mind. It's a form of focusing your attention on the task at hand.

And there ate countless studies that show relaxation and meditation has positive health consequences

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Re: Whatta you do when facing real depression.
« Reply #46 on: February 17, 2013, 05:29:52 PM »
Meditation originated from eastern Religions and was designed to apparently "cleanse" the mind of impurities and disturbances so as to attain so-called enlightenment--a concept as crazy as God.  It was never meant to be a relaxation tool to de-stress.  If you are meditating, that could be part of the problem, the last thing a disturbed mind needs is to be alone with itself.  Going for a walk is a physical process.  Sitting still and focusing your awareness on yourself is not.  Hope this helps.
The whole point of meditation is too move beyond thoughts of self.

It's hard as fuck to do, and your average hipster at yoga ain't doing it.

It's challenging to reduce your mind, but it can be done, and it's just as effective as napping.

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Re: Whatta you do when facing real depression.
« Reply #47 on: February 17, 2013, 05:30:34 PM »
Jesus, gahndi, Krishna ect. These were brilliant thinkers. Granted the people who bastardized their teachings are idiots.
I don't know that any of them would be considered great Thinkers.  And this is the first I am hearing that Jesus was a meditator, but I hear people attribute all types of things to him.  And to link meditation with being a great thinker is absurd, to be a good thinker, one needs to practice thinking.  You would be amazed how few people THINK for themselves.
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Re: Whatta you do when facing real depression.
« Reply #48 on: February 17, 2013, 05:33:49 PM »
I find staying busy wont allow my mind time to be depressed. It sounds like you have alot of time to sit around and be depressed. Only you have the power to bring yourself out of depression.

Btw Jesus might be considered a mediator as he went alone to pray alot and spent considerable time in the morning to himself. The bible mentions these.

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« Reply #49 on: February 17, 2013, 05:35:55 PM »
The whole point of meditation is too move beyond thoughts of self.

It's hard as fuck to do, and your average hipster at yoga ain't doing it.

It's challenging to reduce your mind, but it can be done, and it's just as effective as napping.
If, by moving beyond thoughts of self you mean become less egocentric and less selfish and more community minded, you don't need meditation for that, you just need to ask yourselves how will your actions affect your neighbour then act in a way that is as close to a win win as you can get.

And I think you will find, historically The whole point of meditation was to cleanse the mind of impurities and disturbances so as to attain so-called enlightenment.  Don't get caught up in all this NEW AGE nonsense, these traditions come from a very ancient times and have little relevance in a modern world.  Remember, Buddhists believe all types of crazy shit, if you are struggling with some type of mood disorder, stick to the basics, and don't get lost in some metaphysical esoteric fog.
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