Author Topic: Cormier and Wheeler 1999 (Read 12077 times)

Parker · « **Reply #25 on:** February 19, 2013, 09:21:15 PM »

Quote from: G_Thang on February 19, 2013, 07:15:46 PM

Gave up Phil like he gave up black women.

Phil isn't giving it up anytime soon. Kai's weaved bun will fall off on the O stage before Phil places second.

LOL!

Quote from: cswol on February 19, 2013, 09:05:08 PM

yeah

Cormier always either had that "I don't care look" or that "smirk"

Anyways, our current mr. o Champion

wild willie · « **Reply #26 on:** February 19, 2013, 09:48:23 PM »

Quote from: cswol on February 19, 2013, 09:02:51 PM

top all time

ronnie
arnold
lee haney
dorian
flex wheeler
chris cormier

Good list....but I would have to include Samir.

Mattyh7688 · « **Reply #27 on:** February 19, 2013, 10:03:15 PM »

Two guys who should have dominated bodybuilding and should have been Mr. O's but were lazy as fuck.

cswol · « **Reply #28 on:** February 19, 2013, 10:05:27 PM »

chris wasnt lazy he trained very hard, flex was so genetically gifted, he trained hard too

Mattyh7688 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 19, 2013, 10:06:51 PM »

Quote from: cswol on February 19, 2013, 10:05:27 PM

chris wasnt lazy he trained very hard, flex was so genetically gifted, he trained hard too

If training was all it took to be a bodybuilder, then I can think of several guys who could never win a local show that would be Mr. Olympias, and please these guys didn't train hard, especially when compared to Dorian, the king at the time.

cswol · « **Reply #30 on:** February 19, 2013, 10:07:10 PM »

i went over to golds to see chris while back, hes doin good hes the top trainer at golds now, im still waiting for him to get huge again

wild willie · « **Reply #31 on:** February 19, 2013, 10:07:17 PM »

Quote from: Mattyh7688 on February 19, 2013, 10:03:15 PM

Two guys who should have dominated bodybuilding and should have been Mr. O's but were lazy as fuck.

cormier was not lazy.....suppose you think you are stronger than him too.

Mattyh7688 · « **Reply #32 on:** February 19, 2013, 10:07:39 PM »

Quote from: wild willie on February 19, 2013, 10:07:17 PM

cormier was not lazy.....suppose you think you are stronger than him too.

how many shows did Chris actually come in shape?? He was a typical drug addict and partier, who didn't have his priorities straight for bodybuilding.

If he did he would have been even better than he was.

cswol · « **Reply #33 on:** February 19, 2013, 10:08:05 PM »

cormier and flex both had better physiques than dorian, and cormier went to england to train under dorian

cswol · « **Reply #34 on:** February 19, 2013, 10:08:45 PM »

chris is up there for all time bodybuilding wins, he has over 70 contests and finished in top 3 50% of those shows

Mattyh7688 · « **Reply #35 on:** February 19, 2013, 10:10:45 PM »

Quote from: cswol on February 19, 2013, 10:08:05 PM

cormier and flex both had better physiques than dorian, and cormier went to england to train under dorian

and both lost because they couldn't diet.. Chris almost died when he trained with Dorian lol. Don't you remember him vomiting his brains out?

cswol · « **Reply #36 on:** February 19, 2013, 10:12:17 PM »

no its not that he almost died, he was already trying to come back from a near death incident, an infection in a nerve that happened before he trained with dorian

wild willie · « **Reply #37 on:** February 19, 2013, 10:13:09 PM »

maybe the most consistent pro next to s ray.......405 for 12 on incline......many pro wins and many top 10 finishes at the olympia.

the guy had some of the best quad separation of all time.

cswol · « **Reply #38 on:** February 19, 2013, 10:15:53 PM »

the problem is, phil doesnt have the competition these guys had for nearly 20 years, they were in the golden era of bodybuilding

Mattyh7688 · « **Reply #39 on:** February 19, 2013, 10:29:43 PM »

Quote from: galeniko on February 19, 2013, 10:20:06 PM

the competition doesnt matter when comparing these 3.

your argument goes against own logic,man, if they had more fierce competition then theyd be forced to diet harder.

phil comes in absolutely ripped every time, these 2 didnt.

hed beat them simply based on that.

exactly

cswol · « **Reply #40 on:** February 19, 2013, 10:29:51 PM »

see thats the thing, they had to diet so hard because of the competition, they couldnt come dialed in as easy

quadzilla456 · « **Reply #41 on:** February 19, 2013, 10:32:45 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on February 19, 2013, 04:17:42 PM

every one has been saying this.....
heath wouldnt be top tier in the 90's
....
heat just has big arms....
mr o now but overrated

That's bs and you know it. Here he compares very well with a BB legend from the 90's.

quadzilla456 · « **Reply #42 on:** February 19, 2013, 10:33:52 PM »

more..

Mattyh7688 · « **Reply #43 on:** February 19, 2013, 10:41:11 PM »

Quote from: cswol on February 19, 2013, 10:29:51 PM

see thats the thing, they had to diet so hard because of the competition, they couldnt come dialed in as easy

that makes no fucking sense.. they were out of shape because they dieted harder? Are you retarded? have you ever been on a diet in your life?

Parker · « **Reply #44 on:** February 19, 2013, 11:03:41 PM »

Quote from: Mattyh7688 on February 19, 2013, 10:07:39 PM

how many shows did Chris actually come in shape?? He was a typical drug addict and partier, who didn't have his priorities straight for bodybuilding.

If he did he would have been even better than he was.

A lot, and he pretty muched owned the Ironman contest, I think he beat Flex in 2000.

OTHstrong · « **Reply #45 on:** February 19, 2013, 11:14:06 PM »

Quote from: cswol on February 19, 2013, 10:08:05 PM

cormier and flex both had better physiques than dorian, and cormier went to england to train under dorian

WHAT,.......... FUCK NO

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #46 on:** February 20, 2013, 02:25:19 AM »

Quote from: quadzilla456 on February 19, 2013, 10:33:52 PM

more..

I love when people throw up those out if scale comparison.....as if Like width wise you couldn't take 2 of Heath out of Levrone .... Levrone never had the genetics of chris or flex.... He poos on Heath too
You can post all the out I'd scale pics you want ... Heath is mr o now yes .... All because if arms arms and a weak line up
Would be eaten alive in the 90s era

Bevo · « **Reply #47 on:** February 20, 2013, 02:34:54 AM »

Levrone did have that wow factor that Cormier didn't...

But overall development, structure, size, "real muscle" with no obvious site injections or synthol, and calves goes to Cormier. IMO even better than flex

G_Thang · « **Reply #48 on:** February 20, 2013, 02:56:05 AM »

Quote from: Parker on February 19, 2013, 09:21:15 PM

LOL!Cormier always either had that "I don't care look" or that "smirk"

Anyways, our current mr. o Champion

CC was just as half ass as Melvin, just taller with better genetics, so he got by. He should have married Monica Brant when he had the chance but he was too busy at the magazine stand. $:-\$

MORTALCOIL · « **Reply #49 on:** February 20, 2013, 04:49:50 AM »

Cormier was in one of his best shape ever at the '99 O. Should have topped oily Flex who was clearly over the hill. Flex '93 shits on any other version of Flex, he wasn't meant to carry more than 225 on his frame; but at that weight, he was one of the best ever. Ronnie was too much to be beaten but Cormier sure brought something different on the table that year. And for hose who think Heath's conditioning tops Cormier's or Flex's, time to buy a new set of eyes: blown up doll Heath looks like marshmallow compared to them.