Picture of heaven/afterlife

[OTHstrong]

Don't believe everything you read.

The bible of today has been manipulated, wrongly interpreted and warped during the year from the start.

I speak with Jesus (Garcia Lopez) every now and then and he says that it just says that to make people feel calm. He didn't want to reveal the truth that they're still going to hell.

I keep hearing this over and over and I really wonder what in the world leads people to believe this, seriously what?

You see it is this simple, the Dead Sea scrolls found in Qumran were dated to be at least 2000 years old, every book of the Old Testament has been found in these caves except the book of Esther and the manuscripts are identical to the manuscript used to translate the KJV into English. Yes you read that correctly, they are the same.

So the Dead Sea scrolls prove that for 2000 years the entire Old Testement has not been changed or altered or manipulated in any way like you claim and like so many claim, so my qeustion is where did you and everyone who uses this silly argument get their information from cause it is clearly false

[Wiggs]

I keep hearing this over and over and I really wonder what in the world leads people to believe this, seriously what?

You see it is this simple, the Dead Sea scrolls found in Qumran were dated to be at least 2000 years old, every book of the Old Testament has been found in these caves except the book of Esther and the manuscripts are identical to the manuscript used to translate the KJV into English. Yes you read that correctly, they are the same.

So the Dead Sea scrolls prove that for 2000 years the entire Old Testement has not been changed or altered or manipulated in any way like you claim and like so many claim, so my qeustion is where did you and everyone who uses this silly argument get their information from cause it is clearly false

That's because it's bullshit and it's some wanna-be intellectual running their mouth and have no clue what they're talking about. King James Version of the Bible is all you need bro. I'm sure you know that already.

[OTHstrong]

That's because it's bullshit and it's some wanna-be intellectual running their mouth and have no clue what they're talking about. King James Version of the Bible is all you need bro. I'm sure you know that already.

of course 

[pedro01]

There's a lot going on there.

Glad I took a second look.

Nicely done.

[Agnostic007]

I keep hearing this over and over and I really wonder what in the world leads people to believe this, seriously what?

You see it is this simple, the Dead Sea scrolls found in Qumran were dated to be at least 2000 years old, every book of the Old Testament has been found in these caves except the book of Esther and the manuscripts are identical to the manuscript used to translate the KJV into English. Yes you read that correctly, they are the same.

So the Dead Sea scrolls prove that for 2000 years the entire Old Testement has not been changed or altered or manipulated in any way like you claim and like so many claim, so my qeustion is where did you and everyone who uses this silly argument get their information from cause it is clearly false

Wouldn't the fact there were manuscripts found in the same place as the biblical manuscripts, one of which was actually mentioned in the bible, but never made it's way into the bible cause you concern? 

[pedro01]

Wouldn't the fact there were manuscripts found in the same place as the biblical manuscripts, one of which was actually mentioned in the bible, but never made it's way into the bible cause you concern? 

What - like a sequel?

[OTHstrong]

Wouldn't the fact there were manuscripts found in the same place as the biblical manuscripts, one of which was actually mentioned in the bible, but never made it's way into the bible cause you concern? 

Not at all cause fragments of the book of Jasher and fragment of the book of Enoch were also found and they are not books of the Bible and the Bible does mention the book of Jasher. It is no different then finding a book about Christianity in the same drawer that you find the Bible. That does not mean anything really, may I ask what you are implying?

[pedro01]

Not at all cause fragments of the book of Jasher and fragment of the book of Enoch were also found and they are not books of the Bible and the Bible does mention the book of Jasher. It is no different then finding a book about Christianity in the same drawer that you find the Bible. That does not mean anything really, may I ask what you are implying?

So a bit like they found the bible there and a couple of copies of Hello magazine that they didn't think were relevant?

[OTHstrong]

So a bit like they found the bible there and a couple of copies of Hello magazine that they didn't think were relevant?

No not exactly. See the people who were the original owner of all these scrolls were probably ''writers' that copied work repetitively. In one cave 12 copies of a single book was found so obviously they could have been employed to copy other writing material and not just manuscripts from the Bible.

 They did not have printers back then, everything was done by hand. I don't see the big deal of finding writing that is not in the Bible. What I do find odd is that everyone assumes that some of these books were intended to be a part of the Bible, a poor conclusion if you ask me.

[Bodybuilder Lex Reeves]

An inside peek!

[tbombz]

i think it inaccurate to anthropomorphize "heaven" by making it out to resemble a city.

look at that video of the sun i posted back a page or two. now that is pure energy, massive, responsible for all energy and life in our solar system, and honestly i think that it is a massive spiritual orgy. i think when we die, if we are spiritually pure enough to join, we go to the sun and take part in the meshing of souls and become part of that giant mass of energy which supports all life and is intuitively "god" for our solasr system

[Wiggs]

i think it inaccurate to anthropomorphize "heaven" by making it out to resemble a city.

look at that video of the sun i posted back a page or two. now that is pure energy, massive, responsible for all energy and life in our solar system, and honestly i think that it is a massive spiritual orgy. i think when we die, if we are spiritually pure enough to join, we go to the sun and take part in the meshing of souls and become part of that giant mass of energy which supports all life and is intuitively "god" for our solasr system

LOL. What drugs were you on when you came up with idea this time?

[dr.chimps]

i think it inaccurate to anthropomorphize "heaven" by making it out to resemble a city.

look at that video of the sun i posted back a page or two. now that is pure energy, massive, responsible for all energy and life in our solar system, and honestly i think that it is a massive spiritual orgy. i think when we die, if we are spiritually pure enough to join, we go to the sun and take part in the meshing of souls and become part of that giant mass of energy which supports all life and is intuitively "god" for our solasr system

Don't bogart that joint, bro. Pass it on.

[tbombz]

i have been taking drugs for spiritual meditation, creative theorizing about the nature of reality in regards spirituality, for almost a decade now. the vast majority of the time it was marijuana i used, but i have also used ecstacy quite a bit.  it, along with mushrooms, have provided me with some of my most truthy ideas.

[Bodybuilder Lex Reeves]

i think it inaccurate to anthropomorphize "heaven" by making it out to resemble a city.

look at that video of the sun i posted back a page or two. now that is pure energy, massive, responsible for all energy and life in our solar system, and honestly i think that it is a massive spiritual orgy. i think when we die, if we are spiritually pure enough to join, we go to the sun and take part in the meshing of souls and become part of that giant mass of energy which supports all life and is intuitively "god" for our solasr system

Aren't you an admitted sodomite? What concern of yours is The New Jerusalem described in The Bible? Worry about the reservations your making in Hell.

[OTHstrong]

Wow we have a sun worshipper here

[tbombz]

Aren't you an admitted sodomite? What concern of yours is The New Jerusalem described in The Bible? Worry about the reservations your making in Hell.

the bible says it was inspired by god. not written by him. the men who wrote it did their best to explain their understandings. but the simple truth is that god can not be put into words. the nature of spirituality and our existence as souls created by, the nature of god and heaven and "hell", are not easily put into words. the men who wrote the bible did a damn fine job though. sadly, alot of people misinterpret the bible. for example, "hell" is explained several times, it is reffered to as eternal suffering because of gods existence, it is said that people will suffer this fate if they do not seek god. what this means to me is that people who can not accept gods love will keep themselves in an eternal place of suffering where they are endlessly struggling against the power of gods love, forever protecting their ego from realizing they are but one of many and also infinitely inferior to a supreme being.   yes there are several descriptions that describe hell as a firey place of great suffering, and that people are "cast off by god" into it for their sins.   but this to me only means that god created us in such a way as to allow us the power and free will to keep ourselves away from him for an eternity, burning up inside because we cant accept him.

[Bodybuilder Lex Reeves]

the bible says it was inspired by god. not written by him. the men who wrote it did their best to explain their understandings. but the simple truth is that god can not be put into words. the nature of spirituality and our existence as souls created by, the nature of god and heaven and "hell", are not easily put into words. the men who wrote the bible did a damn fine job though. sadly, alot of people misinterpret the bible. for example, "hell" is explained several times, it is reffered to as eternal suffering because of gods existence, it is said that people will suffer this fate if they do not seek god. what this means to me is that people who can not accept gods love will keep themselves in an eternal place of suffering where they are endlessly struggling against the power of gods love, forever protecting their ego from realizing they are but one of many and also infinitely inferior to a supreme being.   yes there are several descriptions that describe hell as a firey place of great suffering, and that people are "cast off by god" into it for their sins.   but this to me only means that god created us in such a way as to allow us the power and free will to keep ourselves away from him for an eternity, burning up inside because we cant accept him.

I'm not one of your pothead pals from the 10th grade. Meaning, I have no inclination to read your long winded, drug induced bullshit.

[Archer77]

Wow we have a sun worshipper here

Only if its a brown dwarf.

[OTHstrong]

Only if its a brown dwarf.

[tbombz]

I'm not one of your pothead pals from the 10th grade. Meaning, I have no inclination to read your long winded, drug induced bullshit.

i was fairly concise, but here, ill make it real short, the bible uses metaphores and it does not assert that that the traditional concept of hell exists. when it talks about god casting people down into firey pits for eternity, it is talking about the fact god gives us the free will to torture ourselves for eternity by burning up our insides forever as we reject his love and choose to live outside his kingdom. hell is self inflicted due to guilt, remorse, ego, etc. it need not be for eternity either, as at anytime you can choose to embrace god or forgive yourself and move into the light and out of suffering.

[Bodybuilder Lex Reeves]

i was fairly concise, but here, ill make it real short, the bible uses metaphores and it does not assert that that the traditional concept of hell exists. when it talks about god casting people down into firey pits for eternity, it is talking about the fact god gives us the free will to torture ourselves for eternity by burning up our insides forever as we reject his love and choose to live outside his kingdom. hell is self inflicted due to guilt, remorse, ego, etc. it need not be for eternity either, as at anytime you can choose to embrace god or forgive yourself and move into the light and out of suffering.

You'll have to pardon me but I have no interest in your opinions.

[B_B_C]

This is what Bible believers can look forward to.

did you take the picture approaching the place or after you were expelled?
on you mobile phone, what the reception like?

[OTHstrong]

i was fairly concise, but here, ill make it real short, the bible uses metaphores and it does not assert that that the traditional concept of hell exists. when it talks about god casting people down into firey pits for eternity, it is talking about the fact god gives us the free will to torture ourselves for eternity by burning up our insides forever as we reject his love and choose to live outside his kingdom. hell is self inflicted due to guilt, remorse, ego, etc. it need not be for eternity either, as at anytime you can choose to embrace god or forgive yourself and move into the light and out of suffering.

No interpretation of the Bible indicates this, no matter how you flip it and no matter how metaphorically speaking the Bible is, no one who has ever read it has ever come up with this interpretation. So the very fact that you said this proves you have never read the Bible.

[B_B_C]