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« on: February 25, 2013, 10:58:50 AM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=402Eh4EtQUs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=402Eh4EtQUs</a>

did someone actually delete my thread on this?
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2013, 11:02:02 AM »

you posted it in the wrong sub board brainchild...
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=461312.msg6629851#new

now tell us all again how it was the GOP's fault the dems didnt compromise and obama suggested the sequester Roll Eyes

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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2013, 11:06:19 AM »

you posted it in the wrong sub board brainchild...
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=461312.msg6629851#new

now tell us all again how it was the GOP's fault the dems didnt compromise and obama suggested the sequester Roll Eyes



didn't compromise on what?

here he is lying his ass off, asking the president to do his job for him. You find nothing odd with that?
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2013, 12:19:14 PM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=402Eh4EtQUs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=402Eh4EtQUs</a>

did someone actually delete my thread on this?

Boehner didnt lie he just cant figure out the Google search function.

Will somebody get that disgrace out of Washington he is making a mockery of the tax payers.
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2013, 01:19:49 PM »


The GOP offered 2 budgets. Not just 1, but 2. The Democrats rejected both and after rejecting both, they didn't come up with a single budget plan of their own. It has been 5 years and Harry Reid and the dumbcrats have yet to come up with a single budget plan. WHY? Because in order to solve this nation's economic problems, the SACRED CROW OF ENTITLEMENTS MUST BE SACRIFICED. But, yet, they will demonize someone like Paul Ryan (who at least tried to address the issue) as someone who wants to throw lil' ol' grandma right over the cliff.

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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2013, 05:45:28 PM »

didn't compromise on what?

here he is lying his ass off, asking the president to do his job for him. You find nothing odd with that?




He's not lying moron.  He said the Obama hasn't given a plan that will prevent the sequester.

They've been saying for a while now that they want Obama to submit a plan that can actually pass Congress.  Just saying here's a plan and this is what you have to pass and I won't compromise doesn't cut it.

And yes, the Repub's plans are not getting through either so it's not like they're any better, but they can at least get them passed in the House.  Obama hasn't even gotten his through the Senate.
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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2013, 05:49:30 PM »

didn't compromise on what?

here he is lying his ass off, asking the president to do his job for him. You find nothing odd with that?
didnt watch the video and have no intention of watching videos posted from foreigners who have no idea whats going on.

Obama and the dems didnt want spending cuts and used the sequester as a way of kicking the can down the road. now that weve made our way to the can they are bitching and moaning how its all the reps fault while trying to avoid any and all accountability.

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He's not lying moron.  He said the Obama hasn't given a plan that will prevent the sequester.

They've been saying for a while now that they want Obama to submit a plan that can actually pass Congress.  Just saying here's a plan and this is what you have to pass and I won't compromise doesn't cut it.

And yes, the Repub's plans are not getting through either so it's not like they're any better, but they can at least get them passed in the House.  Obama hasn't even gotten his through the Senate.

no, he said "obama has submitted no plan to eliminate the sequester" he never said prevent asshat. He is blatantly lying, Obama has done exactly the opposite of what he states.
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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2013, 06:49:19 AM »

didnt watch the video and have no intention of watching videos posted from foreigners who have no idea whats going on.

Obama and the dems didnt want spending cuts and used the sequester as a way of kicking the can down the road. now that weve made our way to the can they are bitching and moaning how its all the reps fault while trying to avoid any and all accountability.




but you take the time to write paragraphs responding to said foreigners?
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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2013, 05:40:46 PM »

no, he said "obama has submitted no plan to eliminate the sequester" he never said prevent asshat. He is blatantly lying, Obama has done exactly the opposite of what he states.



Whatever dude.

Prevent the sequester, eliminate the sequester.  Roll Eyes

Doesn't change the FACT that Obama HASN'T done so.

It's amazing how previous presidents managed to work with hostile Congresses but your Messiah can't.
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Whatever dude.

Prevent the sequester, eliminate the sequester.  Roll Eyes

Doesn't change the FACT that Obama HASN'T done so.

It's amazing how previous presidents managed to work with hostile Congresses but your Messiah can't.

It is amazing isn't it, how times change? I mean the tea party are lunatics who signed a pledge to not compromise, this congress is the worst and most inactive in history with one of the lowest approval ratings ever.



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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2013, 07:33:55 AM »

It is amazing isn't it, how times change? I mean the tea party are lunatics who signed a pledge to not compromise, this congress is the worst and most inactive in history with one of the lowest approval ratings ever.





They gave otwink his tax hike of 600 billion last month moron.  Now its time for otwink to cut spending. 
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GOP = grand old pussies.
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Whatever dude.

Prevent the sequester, eliminate the sequester.  Roll Eyes

Doesn't change the FACT that Obama HASN'T done so.

It's amazing how previous presidents managed to work with hostile Congresses but your Messiah can't.

he can't do anything without the house or senate anus, how is he suppose to eliminate the sequester? It's on the senate and house, Obama can make suggestions and offer a plan even (not his job) but it is meaningless as he has no power to enact it.
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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2013, 08:09:25 AM »

he can't do anything without the house or senate anus, how is he suppose to eliminate the sequester? It's on the senate and house, Obama can make suggestions and offer a plan even (not his job) but it is meaningless as he has no power to enact it.




Yes retard, he has both a formal and informal requirement to submit a budget as the President and leader.

And he can't just start from an untenable position and put out whatever he wants.  That only works when he controls the Congress.  Previous Presidents have had to work with a divided Congress including Clinton who had to deal with all the signers of the Contract with America.

It's clear you know jackshit about our political process fake doctor.

Your Messiah is divisive and inept at compromise.
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Yes retard, he has both a formal and informal requirement to submit a budget as the President and leader.

And he can't just start from an untenable position and put out whatever he wants.  That only works when he controls the Congress.  Previous Presidents have had to work with a divided Congress including Clinton who had to deal with all the signers of the Contract with America.

It's clear you know jackshit about our political process fake doctor.

Your Messiah is divisive and inept at compromise.


The president makes recommendations/things he would like but ultimately it is the job of congress to pass a budget.

Ad hominem attacks just make you look stupid.

He is doing a good job with the US, while working with the worst congress in history, your black and white view of things is often a symptom of low iq. Complexity puzzles you.

numerous unprecendented things have occurred within the the GOP recently. Fillibustering themselves and the SOD, getting the country downgraded amongst other things.They literally are doing nothing but stalling progress and taking more days off then they work.
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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2013, 08:49:49 AM »

The president makes recommendations/things he would like but ultimately it is the job of congress to pass a budget.

Ad hominem attacks just make you look stupid.

He is doing a good job with the US, while working with the worst congress in history, your black and white view of things is often a symptom of low iq. Complexity puzzles you.

numerous unprecendented things have occurred within the the GOP recently. Fillibustering themselves and the SOD, getting the country downgraded amongst other things.They literally are doing nothing but stalling progress and taking more days off then they work.

STFU - obama as the leader is supposed to create a consensus and LEAD. 

Instead of golfing, chooming, smoking crack, he is supposed to do his fucking job - not run around the nation blaming everyone and screaming fire in every threater he can find. 

He will always be little more than a community communist agitator. 
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« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2013, 08:52:16 AM »

STFU - obama as the leader is supposed to create a consensus and LEAD. 

Instead of golfing, chooming, smoking crack, he is supposed to do his fucking job - not run around the nation blaming everyone and screaming fire in every threater he can find. 

He will always be little more than a community communist agitator. 

No he is not, what the fuck are you on? He is actually doing quite well with respect to the economy it appears.

He is doing his job, congress is not doing theirs, 239 days of this year, hardworking bunch.
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« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2013, 08:56:15 AM »


Republicans warn Obama has 'poisoned' relations with campaign-style attacks

By Cameron Joseph - 03/01/13 05:00 AM ET





President Obama's public shaming of congressional Republicans to act on a range of issues may be winning at the polls — but it risks alienating the people needed to reach bipartisan compromise.

While Obama has made a strategic calculation that he needs to marshal public support to push through his agenda, centrist Republicans warn the president and his allies could go too far with partisan events and campaign-style ads targeting GOP lawmakers.
 








One recent point of contention: Organizing for Action, Obama's former campaign arm, made its first post-election foray into campaigning this week with ads pressuring swing-state Republicans to support new gun control measures.
 
Among the targets was Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), who is working to build support for a bill focused on cracking down on gun trafficking.
 
“The way to tackle this difficult issue is to continue to have a constructive dialogue. Obviously ads run against me are not what I would call constructive dialogue,” Collins told The Hill. “I personally have very little interest in the White House's campaign activities on this issue. It's just not a factor in my consideration.”
 
In addition to the ads, Obama has been barnstorming the country on sequestration, a sign he sees the permanent campaign for public opinion as more valuable than private negotiations with Republicans. He also launched his push for immigration with a campaign-like speech in Nevada.
 
His leading of congressional Democrats in a chant of “they deserve a vote” on gun control during January’s State of the Union speech also was seen as an effort to raise the political stakes on the issue rather than encouraging Congress to debate behind closed doors.

The public opinion push seems to be working politically — Obama leads congressional Republicans in approval ratings by a wide margin. He has kept those issues in the spotlight and polls show the public currently blames the GOP for the looming sequester and sides with Obama on gun control and immigration.

But to get anything accomplished Obama will need to convince the few remaining centrist Republicans to vote with him — and a public lobbying campaign could infuriate the many members not facing tough elections..

The response of some of the targeted lawmakers indicates they’re not feeling any pressure — but if pushed too hard could back away from potential deals.

Rep. John Kline (R-Minn.), chairman of the Education and Workforce Committee, noted that it was "really, really early to start" attacks, and said the ads could be counterproductive by further undermining relations between the GOP and the White House.

"It is strange to have President Obama's arm reaching out and attacking members of the House Republicans when in theory he's trying to work with us," he said. "I'm not sure how smart that is. If he really wants cooperation, why would you just sort of, intentionally antagonize? I don't know."

But Kline admitted relations are already at a nadir.

"The well is fairly poisoned right now, so we'll see," he said.

“He's definitely doing more of playing the outside game, going directly to the public, traveling around the country trying to mobilize people to lobby their congressmen,” said Emory University Professor Alan Abramowitz, an expert on political polarization.
 
“They've decided the other approach of quiet diplomacy wasn't working. This may not work either but politically at least it probably helps him with the Democratic base and membership.”

The first OFA ad buy is pretty small — $100,000 total to run ads on news websites in the districts of 13 members of Congress.
 
All of the targets hail from swing districts and states, though many, like Collins and Reps. Kline, Jim Gerlach (R-Pa.) and Bill Young (R-Fla.) look well-positioned for reelection.
 
Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) won’t face the voters again until 2014. OFA has promised major investments in public lobbying going forward.

Obama’s campaign push is a major reversal from much of his first term, when he stayed hands-off and gave Congress room to negotiate on health care.
 
That plan backfired — his sky-high approval ratings tanked and the Tea Party movement rose to prominence as Obama stayed low-profile and tried to give Congress space to find bipartisan agreement on the issue. Democrats lost control of the House shortly afterward.

Many Democrats are happy to see a more aggressive Obama — and argue Republicans complaints are sour grapes from those who lost the election.

“There's nothing like the bully pulpit of the president's office,” said Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.), who is working on a bipartisan gun trafficking bill. “He won with a strong mandate and his support of these issues, getting out front and galvanizing the support of the people is very important.”

Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.), a leader in bipartisan talks on immigration, agreed.

“Nothing happens inside Washington, D.C., without a demand from outside Washington, D.C. That's the president's role — to continue raising the issue,” he said.

 
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More from The Hill:
 • Obama triggers sequester's cuts
 • Obama: $85 billion sequester cuts 'not going to be an apocalypse'
• Boehner says no new taxes after sequester meeting in White House
 • Obama pardons 17, including man with firearms charges
 
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Rep. Joaquin Castro (D-Texas) said that’s a better approach than he had early on in his presidency.

“He's taken a much more active role in his second term now than he did in his first term, and I think that's a good thing,” he said.

Still, some centrist Democrats say that while Obama’s approach has so far been effective, he needs to make sure to stick to a tone of bipartisanship and avoid antagonizing Republicans who might otherwise work with him.

“He does need to have a hands-on approach, but what does that look like? It should, particularly from a White House that's not looking down the barrel of an election anymore, should be one that fosters cooperation and bipartisanship,” said Kristen Hawn, the head of a center-left super-PAC that is also helping former Sen. Alan Simpson (R-Wyo.) and former White House Chief of Staff Erskine Bowles (D) push their bipartisan debt reduction plan.

GOP strategist Ford O’Connell, who has long called for immigration reform, said he was worried Obama’s pressure could hurt bipartisan talks.

“Folks inside the Beltway in both parties don't like being shown up and when the president gallivants around the countryside saying 'this is what it is' that burns up people in Congress. It's certainly helping him on the message side right now, but I think some people inside and outside the Beltway are tiring of this,” O'Connell said.
 

“You're talking about some very delicate issues and what people want within Congress is a leader, not a legislative dictator. It's going to take some very big behind the doors action where people have to put their cards on the table and if people feel like he's going to burn them they're not going to do it.”


Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/285637-obamas-public-approach-may-further-alienate-needed-gop-support#ixzz2MOkp2Qmw
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« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2013, 09:05:55 AM »

Republicans warn Obama has 'poisoned' relations with campaign-style attacks

By Cameron Joseph - 03/01/13 05:00 AM ET





President Obama's public shaming of congressional Republicans to act on a range of issues may be winning at the polls — but it risks alienating the people needed to reach bipartisan compromise.

While Obama has made a strategic calculation that he needs to marshal public support to push through his agenda, centrist Republicans warn the president and his allies could go too far with partisan events and campaign-style ads targeting GOP lawmakers.
 








One recent point of contention: Organizing for Action, Obama's former campaign arm, made its first post-election foray into campaigning this week with ads pressuring swing-state Republicans to support new gun control measures.
 
Among the targets was Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), who is working to build support for a bill focused on cracking down on gun trafficking.
 
“The way to tackle this difficult issue is to continue to have a constructive dialogue. Obviously ads run against me are not what I would call constructive dialogue,” Collins told The Hill. “I personally have very little interest in the White House's campaign activities on this issue. It's just not a factor in my consideration.”
 
In addition to the ads, Obama has been barnstorming the country on sequestration, a sign he sees the permanent campaign for public opinion as more valuable than private negotiations with Republicans. He also launched his push for immigration with a campaign-like speech in Nevada.
 
His leading of congressional Democrats in a chant of “they deserve a vote” on gun control during January’s State of the Union speech also was seen as an effort to raise the political stakes on the issue rather than encouraging Congress to debate behind closed doors.

The public opinion push seems to be working politically — Obama leads congressional Republicans in approval ratings by a wide margin. He has kept those issues in the spotlight and polls show the public currently blames the GOP for the looming sequester and sides with Obama on gun control and immigration.

But to get anything accomplished Obama will need to convince the few remaining centrist Republicans to vote with him — and a public lobbying campaign could infuriate the many members not facing tough elections..

The response of some of the targeted lawmakers indicates they’re not feeling any pressure — but if pushed too hard could back away from potential deals.

Rep. John Kline (R-Minn.), chairman of the Education and Workforce Committee, noted that it was "really, really early to start" attacks, and said the ads could be counterproductive by further undermining relations between the GOP and the White House.

"It is strange to have President Obama's arm reaching out and attacking members of the House Republicans when in theory he's trying to work with us," he said. "I'm not sure how smart that is. If he really wants cooperation, why would you just sort of, intentionally antagonize? I don't know."

But Kline admitted relations are already at a nadir.

"The well is fairly poisoned right now, so we'll see," he said.

“He's definitely doing more of playing the outside game, going directly to the public, traveling around the country trying to mobilize people to lobby their congressmen,” said Emory University Professor Alan Abramowitz, an expert on political polarization.
 
“They've decided the other approach of quiet diplomacy wasn't working. This may not work either but politically at least it probably helps him with the Democratic base and membership.”

The first OFA ad buy is pretty small — $100,000 total to run ads on news websites in the districts of 13 members of Congress.
 
All of the targets hail from swing districts and states, though many, like Collins and Reps. Kline, Jim Gerlach (R-Pa.) and Bill Young (R-Fla.) look well-positioned for reelection.
 
Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) won’t face the voters again until 2014. OFA has promised major investments in public lobbying going forward.

Obama’s campaign push is a major reversal from much of his first term, when he stayed hands-off and gave Congress room to negotiate on health care.
 
That plan backfired — his sky-high approval ratings tanked and the Tea Party movement rose to prominence as Obama stayed low-profile and tried to give Congress space to find bipartisan agreement on the issue. Democrats lost control of the House shortly afterward.

Many Democrats are happy to see a more aggressive Obama — and argue Republicans complaints are sour grapes from those who lost the election.

“There's nothing like the bully pulpit of the president's office,” said Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.), who is working on a bipartisan gun trafficking bill. “He won with a strong mandate and his support of these issues, getting out front and galvanizing the support of the people is very important.”

Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.), a leader in bipartisan talks on immigration, agreed.

“Nothing happens inside Washington, D.C., without a demand from outside Washington, D.C. That's the president's role — to continue raising the issue,” he said.

 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

More from The Hill:
 • Obama triggers sequester's cuts
 • Obama: $85 billion sequester cuts 'not going to be an apocalypse'
• Boehner says no new taxes after sequester meeting in White House
 • Obama pardons 17, including man with firearms charges
 
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Rep. Joaquin Castro (D-Texas) said that’s a better approach than he had early on in his presidency.

“He's taken a much more active role in his second term now than he did in his first term, and I think that's a good thing,” he said.

Still, some centrist Democrats say that while Obama’s approach has so far been effective, he needs to make sure to stick to a tone of bipartisanship and avoid antagonizing Republicans who might otherwise work with him.

“He does need to have a hands-on approach, but what does that look like? It should, particularly from a White House that's not looking down the barrel of an election anymore, should be one that fosters cooperation and bipartisanship,” said Kristen Hawn, the head of a center-left super-PAC that is also helping former Sen. Alan Simpson (R-Wyo.) and former White House Chief of Staff Erskine Bowles (D) push their bipartisan debt reduction plan.

GOP strategist Ford O’Connell, who has long called for immigration reform, said he was worried Obama’s pressure could hurt bipartisan talks.

“Folks inside the Beltway in both parties don't like being shown up and when the president gallivants around the countryside saying 'this is what it is' that burns up people in Congress. It's certainly helping him on the message side right now, but I think some people inside and outside the Beltway are tiring of this,” O'Connell said.
 

“You're talking about some very delicate issues and what people want within Congress is a leader, not a legislative dictator. It's going to take some very big behind the doors action where people have to put their cards on the table and if people feel like he's going to burn them they're not going to do it.”


Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/285637-obamas-public-approach-may-further-alienate-needed-gop-support#ixzz2MOkp2Qmw
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OH no obama is making comments, not that any of the repubs are doing that same thing right? I mean blaming obama for the sequester over and over, claiming he has no plan and has not lead etc etc.

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« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2013, 09:06:37 AM »

The president makes recommendations/things he would like but ultimately it is the job of congress to pass a budget.

Ad hominem attacks just make you look stupid.

He is doing a good job with the US, while working with the worst congress in history, your black and white view of things is often a symptom of low iq. Complexity puzzles you.

numerous unprecendented things have occurred within the the GOP recently. Fillibustering themselves and the SOD, getting the country downgraded amongst other things.They literally are doing nothing but stalling progress and taking more days off then they work.




Yea, it's a historic crisis of monumental proportions that none other than Obama has had to confront.  Roll Eyes

Take his cock out of your mouth and you might be able to see clearly.
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« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2013, 09:07:18 AM »

Again - obama is the one melting down in public day after day crying wolf and being a divisive con man - its on him. 
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Ad hominem attacks just make you look stupid.








Good to know you're working so hard at making yourself look stupid fake doctor, lol.



he can't do anything without the house or senate anus



no, he said "obama has submitted no plan to eliminate the sequester" he never said prevent asshat.




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Good to know you're working so hard at making yourself look stupid fake doctor, lol.








Thanks for taking the time to quote me, I can see I am on your mind a lot.

Obessions are a part of OCD and are the only symptom often observable in pure O. Your point makes no sense, what you have done is call me stupid and in the same breath admit you are stupid.
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Thanks for taking the time to quote me, I can see I am on your mind a lot.

Obessions are a part of OCD and are the only symptom often observable in pure O. Your point makes no sense, what you have done is call me stupid and in the same breath admit you are stupid.



hahaha...pathetic attempt at recovering from your own self-owning.

Don't worry...we've pretty much established you're not too bright.
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