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bodybuilding is dying
« on: March 02, 2013, 04:31:59 PM »
Over the years, when people said "bodybuilding is dying" they meant that it's heading to the wrong direction. Yet, controversial as this progress was, competitors improved. They got bigger, more shredded, aesthetics got lost somewhere in the process but still - Dorian was much bigger than Haney and Coleman was a true freak of nature.

I haven't even followed this years AC - not only because I got bored of bodybuilding, but there was nothing really to be seen there. Top2 will be most likely Xman and Dexter, they are old guys from previous bodybuilding era. The only good new, fairly new guy shows up without shape. Dexter's gut is growing, he's getting worse and worse every year and he still manages to win shows like this.

I watch replays from AC and I wonder - is this really 2nd most important bodybuilding show? Lineup looks like New York Pro from couple of years ago... or even worse.

My observation is that nowadays pros are smaller, uglier and in far worse condition than 10 years ago. I wonder - what happened? Onetimehard will hate me for saying that but despite the fact that many guys are competing now at low level, top NPC competitors look like absolute shit. I've got the feeling that anyone with talent for aesthetic, muscular physique shoots for modelling, "natural bodybuilding" or something else where he doesn't have to risk kidney failure and earns just as much if not more money.

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Re: bodybuilding is dying
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2013, 04:37:45 PM »
  NO thing is for EVER

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Re: bodybuilding is dying
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2013, 04:41:22 PM »
http://onewithnow.com/end-closure/




All Things Must End: The Gift of Closure
by MANAL GHOSAIN on DECEMBER 15th, 2011


Life as we know it is the summation of beginnings and endings. It is the transformation of energy and matter—the dance of evolution.

If we look at our own existence, we realize that it is built and continues to grow on a foundation of relationships. The physical body is the visible manifestation of energy and matter uniting to produce the unique being that is you.

Our experiences and memories are a reflection of our relationship with nature, objects, other people and ourselves.

As we all know too well, a relationship that beings will end one day—sooner or later. This is part of the magic and mystery of life.

In most cases the ending is painful and unwelcomed. The holiday season is a wonderful opportunity to reflect on the relationships that have ended and the possibilities of what is yet to come.

While the writing below is mostly focused on our relationship with others, it can apply to our relationship with ourselves and with our environment.


Acceptance

I can’t remember a time when I was completely prepared for a relationship to end. The end comes in different shapes and forms but one result—it is over.

It is usually hard to fully grasp what happened. Life as we know it has changed and we need to allow ourselves time to adapt to the new reality.

The only thing that we can do is to allow the grieving process to take its course and for us to accept that life is never going to be the same.

Closure

When you accept, you put yourself in the driver seat and steer your life towards closure.

You choose to close this chapter. What was is over—regardless of why and how.  You are no longer bound to the regrets of the past or the “what ifs” of the future.

And the best part about closure is that it’s always up to you. No one can take it away from you. When you decide to let go and move on, no one can stop you—other than you.

Closure is a gift. You let go of what was, and you open up to what could be. It is the door to new beginnings.

New beginnings

As hard as it may seem to let go and move on, take solace in knowing that it is an opportunity for something new to emerge.

Saying goodbye to what was creates a space for what could be. With every birth there is a death and after every death there is an opportunity for new life.

When we let go, we feel the space that this relationship has left behind. It is in that space that other beginnings are born. They may not necessarily be the same type of relationship. But they will be something that augments our journey and moves us forward. The universe always trades up.

This year I lost a childhood friend who died in a car accident. I also lost a connection to a family member who decided to drop all communication. There were no planned goodbyes and that’s okay. Time allowed me to find closure and accept where I am.

This pain is a reminder of our humanity and the inevitable ending that’s intertwined with a new beginning. This is the rhythm of the dance of life.

Beginnings and endings are nothing but an expressive transformation of energy that is within us and all around us.

Today I invite you to find closure and let go of what’s holding you in the past. Honor the memory of what was. Give yourself the gift of closure and open up to new possibilities.

As Dr. Seuss put it:

“Don’t cry because it’s over. Smile because it happened.”

 

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Re: bodybuilding is dying
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2013, 04:45:09 PM »
Over the years, when people said "bodybuilding is dying" they meant that it's heading to the wrong direction. Yet, controversial as this progress was, competitors improved. They got bigger, more shredded, aesthetics got lost somewhere in the process but still - Dorian was much bigger than Haney and Coleman was a true freak of nature.

I haven't even followed this years AC - not only because I got bored of bodybuilding, but there was nothing really to be seen there. Top2 will be most likely Xman and Dexter, they are old guys from previous bodybuilding era. The only good new, fairly new guy shows up without shape. Dexter's gut is growing, he's getting worse and worse every year and he still manages to win shows like this.

I watch replays from AC and I wonder - is this really 2nd most important bodybuilding show? Lineup looks like New York Pro from couple of years ago... or even worse.

My observation is that nowadays pros are smaller, uglier and in far worse condition than 10 years ago. I wonder - what happened? Onetimehard will hate me for saying that but despite the fact that many guys are competing now at low level, top NPC competitors look like absolute shit. I've got the feeling that anyone with talent for aesthetic, muscular physique shoots for modelling, "natural bodybuilding" or something else where he doesn't have to risk kidney failure and earns just as much if not more money.

The Palumboism virus is in full effect at the Arnold. Stomachs are bigger and limbs or smaller.

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Re: bodybuilding is dying
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2013, 04:45:43 PM »
The reason is that the judges voted for instant awe value rather than long term aesthetics value.

This is important because the bodybuilding ideal is clearly out of reach, even imaginatively. If the judges had voted for aesthetics, then you can at least imagine that you could look the part. The tough guy, gangsta image can only take you so far.

By rewarding the freak and the instant shock value that it provided, the judges killed bodybuilding. That is why pros are getting older and older. Who conceivably wants to become a physique athlete?

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Re: bodybuilding is dying
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2013, 04:45:49 PM »
  guts are bigger and arms are smaller     a travesty

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Re: bodybuilding is dying
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2013, 04:51:15 PM »
the 90's and early 2000's are GONE..

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Re: bodybuilding is dying
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2013, 04:53:07 PM »
I think what we are also seeing is full blown diabetics on stage now.

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Re: bodybuilding is dying
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2013, 04:53:40 PM »
There's a few guys left that look solid in the pro and amateur ranks..majority is pretty poor though and rarely do you ever see a bodybuilder where you go "I want to look like that guy" like the physiques of the past generations



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Re: bodybuilding is dying
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2013, 05:06:23 PM »
That's because drugs aren't the finishing touch anymore , generation nothingness don't want to put the work or pay their dues anymore, they want instant gratification , they start  juicing  even before they start lifting ,burnout by 21 .




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Re: bodybuilding is dying
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2013, 05:08:05 PM »
  che is correct

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Re: bodybuilding is dying
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2013, 05:08:28 PM »
That's because drugs aren't the finishing touch anymore , generation nothingness don't want to put the work or pay their dues anymore, they want instant gratification , they start  juicing  even before they start lifting ,burnout by 21 .





This is EXACTLY my thoughts on this as well , you couldn't have said it any more plainly

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Re: bodybuilding is dying
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2013, 05:12:49 PM »
That's because drugs aren't the finishing touch anymore , generation nothingness don't want to put the work or pay their dues anymore, they want instant gratification , they start  juicing  even before they start lifting ,burnout by 21 .





I don't think it's JUST the drugs. There's nothing detrimental in popping dianabol at early age, as shown by a vast number of bodybuilders like Arnold himself.

Nowadays it's insulin, hgh, plasma fucking expanders, synthol and some weird-ass training to "stretch fascia to oil go to right places", site injections, fat burners like DNP, shitton of t3...

... needless to say, it's fucking madness.

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Re: bodybuilding is dying
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2013, 05:14:22 PM »
I don't think it's JUST the drugs. There's nothing detrimental in popping dianabol at early age, as shown by a vast number of bodybuilders like Arnold himself.

Nowadays it's insulin, hgh, plasma fucking expanders, synthol and some weird-ass training to "stretch fascia to oil go to right places", site injections, fat burners like DNP, shitton of t3...

... needless to say, it's fucking madness.

this

Some of the greatest ever (Arnold, Ray, Wheeler etc) started juicing in their teen years without any real 'foundation' to speak of and turned out great. All the other shit added in is where it gets ugly

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Re: bodybuilding is dying
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2013, 05:18:25 PM »
I don't think it's JUST the drugs. There's nothing detrimental in popping dianabol at early age, as shown by a vast number of bodybuilders like Arnold himself.

Nowadays it's insulin, hgh, plasma fucking expanders, synthol and some weird-ass training to "stretch fascia to oil go to right places", site injections, fat burners like DNP, shitton of t3...

... needless to say, it's fucking madness.

True more options and excess is best mentality , like che touched on everyone wants to run before they walk

 

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Re: bodybuilding is dying
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2013, 05:29:03 PM »
Only bodybuilding that I like is that oldy stuff where barbells, trumpets and the beach is involved.
Even back then is was "heated" but the people looked strong and good.
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Re: bodybuilding is dying
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2013, 05:31:47 PM »
The drug dosages are def off the reservation. But as far as starting young, Flex, Ray, and Levrone were only 22-24 and jacked. Maybe less people are into working out nowadays. The guys with rediculous genetics and perfect frames never hit a gym to discover their hidden "gifts". That's what sticks out mostly to me about the modern bb's. Shit frames and muscle shape. These guys should have recognized early on in their training that they didn't have the frame or shape to be pros. But they try and pile on size and change their shape, if you know what I mean.
 

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Re: bodybuilding is dying
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Re: bodybuilding is dying
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2013, 05:53:57 PM »
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Re: bodybuilding is dying
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« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2013, 06:22:55 PM »
In my experience bodybuilding was the biggest it ever was about 1975 to 1984. My favorite years are the 60's. When insulin and growth hormone entered the drug mix the physiques
just changed.

Interest in bodybuilding is also really low. Small contests were all over the place selling out. Now there are very few contests. The magazine sales are really low too. Men's Health out sells all the bodybuilding magazines combined. Bodybuilding gyms use to be 99% men and
now most gyms are around half and half.  People still want a good body but few want to look like a drug bodybuilder.

Insecure young men used to bodybuild but it seems the rage is going to MMA type dojos. In NJ they are all over the place. All you need is a store front and mats. Instead of looking like you can kick ass many are finding it's better to be able to really do it.

In the end it's a sport based on drug use. Fans of bodybuilding and of bodybuilding drugs will rationalize that all athletes use but that isn't the truth. The truth is everyone in the Olympia is a cocktail of drugs.

I like bodybuilding or I wouldn't be here. Bodybuilding just attracks a strange group of fans. It's no wonder when it's oiled up drug using men posing in their g string underwear. I will lift without drugs. Strength, health, and fitness are a priority.  

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Re: bodybuilding is dying
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2013, 07:48:07 PM »
The Arnold was nearly a repeat of the Master's Olympia.  This means that there's a whole generation missing from bodybuilding.  Prize money and opportunities to compete are at an all time high (especially with the Arnold expanding all over the world), but the competitors are dwindling.

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Re: bodybuilding is dying
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2013, 07:50:58 PM »
Cedric looks just like the award they hand out. These guts are getting out of control.

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« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2013, 07:58:14 PM »
I'm thankful now that I got to see Paris and DeMey in their primes.

Disgraceful now....

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Re: bodybuilding is dying
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2013, 12:21:20 AM »
It's the judges fault. Plain and simple.

I mean, seriously, what kind of qualification do you need to be a judge? Without a sense for what is aesthetic, all you are is a fan with the best seats.

There is no accountability or transparency in the judging and the bodybuilding media are sheep with nothing intelligent to offer when speaking.

Welcome to generation belly.